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#1 2005-06-21 09:37:19
- flashgordon
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Re: the evil that is
Vagueness is the dark place where evil hides; vagueness is the primary weapon of the 'incrowders.' Incrowders and those who have mastered the art of vagueness is the main problem of humanity.
This is the source of disfunctionality in families and society in general.
99% of humanity has know time to develop thoughts of their own, so they all become incrowders; incrowding is the source of fascism and racsism and their primary behavior is vagueness.
Supernatural religion is the ultimate organisation for vagueness; the god concept is the ultimate vagueness; if you die, it is god's will; if you live, it is gods will; god works in mysterious ways! God told me so! Supernatural religions are the weak characters who join up to hide in vagueness from having to change their immaturity.
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#2 2005-06-21 10:07:20
- Cobra Commander
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Re: the evil that is
Vagueness, absolutes, either can be a tool for tyrants and those who do harm to society.
God told me so. 
Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
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#3 2005-06-21 10:11:24
- flashgordon
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Re: the evil that is
Tyrants never talk preciselly, they talk vaguelly; they are a play on vagueness and ignorance.
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#4 2005-06-21 10:16:05
- Cobra Commander
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Re: the evil that is
Except when they talk in absolutes. The method of expression is not what one needs to watch, but that being expressed.
But then I suppose I'm coming down on the side of the ignorant tyrants, vaguely defined as it is. :;):
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#5 2005-06-21 10:52:27
- flashgordon
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Re: the evil that is
you definitelly try to take the devils advocate side.
However, just to add more, the god concept led more to the idea of a Tyrant with god ordained rights to rule than anything else. It amazes me to no end how people can miss all these points kind of like the god believers saying evolution and science pictures life mechanically and statically, when it is science that discovers energy and evolution - two dynamic concepts, and it is the god concept that tries to preserve everything for all eternity; they are the ones trying to preserve things in a static picture.
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#6 2005-06-21 11:11:40
- Cobra Commander
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Re: the evil that is
you definitelly try to take the devils advocate side.
I'm on retainer. 
However, just to add more, the god concept led more to the idea of a Tyrant with god ordained rights to rule than anything else.
This I can agree with in essence. I've often said that when men profess to love their subjects and guard their interests but condemn them to torture for not kneeling in deference we call them tyrants and overthrow them. But when the Almighty does it. . . 
Unfortunately on both the religious and secular sides there are too many who instead of defending and bolstering their position turn to attacking the other. There's room for both science and religion if they don't cross into each other's territory. Science tells us how. Religion purports to tell us why.
But then more religious types would have to accept the idea of all that science discovers as the mechanism of "God-engineer" who's existence they can't prove, while secularists could just accept that maybe there is more than we've thus far quantified.
I don't believe it's an all-powerful sentient creator, but I can't prove otherwise so there's no sense pounding those that believe it.
Except when they force the issue, then it's fair game.
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