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#1 2004-06-25 06:42:26

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

I just read http://www.cincypost.com/2004/06/25/edi … .html]this article

I'm sure that when the next goverment is forced to make cuts, they will blame NASA for spending to much and its budgets gets cut. Why not cut the salaries of the people in the congress and senate who approved this bill?


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#2 2004-07-20 11:59:04

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

this could become a key issue, with many other economies around the globe growing fast while the US lost 2 million jobs, the are costs iin Iraq and rising defecit and of course the corporate scandals...these things weigh heavy on the system and this could be why people are asking serious questions where the heck is the cash going to come from, what about the things that need to be fixed in the USA's space program, why is Bush talking about putting people on mars..others aren't so sure, the dollar has taken a knock and some say the Chinese making lots opf manufacturing, also the euro has become  a good stable alternative against the dollar..a number of people say the democrats are better at economics and the workforce, Bush has wrecked the dollar with certain policy but good Greenspan is smart, he's trying to hold things together and won't allow America to go bankrupt like other nations have done. This is sad when trouble like this arises because the cash flow or bad finance affects space policy dramatically.


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#3 2004-07-20 12:27:27

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

Mmmm my, you are easily talked into buying the anti-American propoganda aren't you?

-Lost two million jobs. Made 1.5 million.

-Very low unemployment, within 0.1% of what it was during the Clinton admin

-America's economy is also growing faster than it has in years. National projected budget deficit has shrunk substantially with increased tax incomes, even with lower taxes.

-America has about tripple the money of all the rest of the world's space agencies combined. Its so bad in Japan that they are considering eliminating their space agency other than a few probes now and then.

-NASA will have, if its current funding remains steady at $14.5Bn/yr, have about $350Bn between now and 2030, when PlanBush wants to talk about being on Mars. Not a single additional dime... $350Bn.

Don't even get me started about how poorly Democrats handle economics... for that I have just two words: "Ronald Regan"


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#4 2004-07-20 12:33:18

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

Mmmm my, you are easily talked into buying the anti-American propoganda aren't you?

-Lost two million jobs. Made 1.5 million.

-Very low unemployment, within 0.1% of what it was during the Clinton admin

-America's economy is also growing faster than it has in years. National projected budget deficit has shrunk substantially with increased tax incomes, even with lower taxes.

-America has about tripple the money of all the rest of the world's space agencies combined. Its so bad in Japan that they are considering eliminating their space agency other than a few probes now and then.

-NASA will have, if its current funding remains steady at $14.5Bn/yr, have about $350Bn between now and 2030, when PlanBush wants to talk about being on Mars. Not a single additional dime... $350Bn.

Don't even get me started about how poorly Democrats handle economics... for that I have just two words: "Ronald Regan"

Ok at first I wanted to submit a long point to point reply to your comment but then I read:

Don't even get me started about how poorly Democrats handle economics... for that I have just two words: "Ronald Regan"

Now I'm thinking "Is this guy serious at all?" I mean you don't even know what party Ronald Reagan belonged to. Well that proves all the other so called facts you seem to mention that have no base in reality and there is no need to discuss with you.


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#5 2004-07-20 12:41:31

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

My, how high and mighty of you...

"people say the democrats are better at economics" etc etc... no they are not, republicans are at least as good if not better. I cited Ronald Regan as an example of a republican who was, for all intents and purposes, an economic wizard.


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#6 2004-07-20 12:45:47

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We've been paying for his "economic genuis" ever since...  :laugh:

"We'll out spend our enemies on tommorrows dime!"

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#7 2004-07-20 12:50:53

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

Ooh my mistake I thought you thought he was a democrat.

Never ever considered him as a economical wonder.

As I personally consider Reagan an economic and social failure.

1. Economic growth was due: He was just riding the new high tech waves that was set in the late 70ies. The PC revolution
2. Berlin Wall was not directly his doing.
3. His spending in new military technolgies didn't result into anything concrete except jobs paid by loans. And those were short term.
4. If you call any one that borrows unknown quantities of money to build an economy a wizzard then I say that the world full of them. Basically this is what Hitler did but also a reason why he started wars. The loot would pay the debts.


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#8 2004-07-20 13:41:12

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

Reagan cut taxes at first, yet then raised them for the balance of his term.


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#9 2004-07-20 13:49:33

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Re: Our $8 trillion headache - Things don't look so good

Don't even get me started about how poorly Democrats handle economics... for that I have just two words: "Ronald Regan"

You know I still believe you thought Reagan was a democrat. If you just read the above quote it just seems like that. However maybe after my post you did a web search or something. Then followed it up by some bull to cover your tracks. As no sane person will call Reagan an economic wizzard, even Bush senior will not.


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