Chalabi an Iranian spy? - US fed bad intel on WMD?

Bill White · 2004-05-21 20:11:53

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld … es]Chalabi link

Patrick Lang, former director of the intelligence agency's Middle East branch, said he had been told by colleagues in the intelligence community that Chalabi's U.S.-funded program to provide information about weapons of mass destruction and insurgents was effectively an Iranian intelligence operation. "They [the Iranians] knew exactly what we were up to," he said.
He described it as "one of the most sophisticated and successful intelligence operations in history."
"I'm a spook. I appreciate good work. This was good work," he said.

Mundaka · 2004-05-22 00:29:39

Alt2War · 2004-05-24 16:35:58

Bill, back on May 11th, I posted the following in the "What if we lose" thread:
"Chalabi: I read *somewhere* about this guy back in the 90s that he was an iranian spymaster, a mass murderer, torturer and an admitted and convicted bank robber. Then I saw him on TV advising the US on policy last year and thought, 'What? -- maybe I better start learning Farsi . . .' "
If *I* was aware of this back in the 90s, when I had no more access than open news sources, I'll bet half my trucks our intel agencies did too. There was nothing sophisticated about it -- or even secret. This is disinformation, meant to lead us astray.

Bullshit.

In case you have not noticed, the state department, as well as the CIA has been doing the god damned hardest to get the Bush administration to get as far away from Chalibi as possible.

Unfortunately the Civilain leaders in the Pentagon are attached at the hip to Chalibi... that is until very reciently. The "NeoCon" civilian camp in the pentagon is now divided over Chalibi.

Mundaka · 2004-05-25 02:23:51

Alt2War · 2004-05-25 03:56:54

Bullshit.
In case you have not noticed, the state department, as well as the CIA has been doing the god damned hardest to get the Bush administration to get as far away from Chalibi as possible.
Unfortunately the Civilain leaders in the Pentagon are attached at the hip to Chalibi... that is until very reciently. The "NeoCon" civilian camp in the pentagon is now divided over Chalibi.
Alt, just a bit of advice: If you spent a bit less time cursing -- recently its become constant -- and reacting without first bothering to read closely enough to understand what others on this board actually say, and going out of your way to try to make yourself look good by making others look stupid, you might have found the time to realize that I wasn't in disagreement with you.

Oh.. well still your wrong, Wrong, DAMN WRONG I tell you!

Mundaka · 2004-05-25 12:57:48

Bill White · 2004-05-27 10:43:42

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/0525 … ascinating story - - if its true:

Before the Iraq War spins further out of control, former President George H.W. Bush should sit down his son, George W. Bush, and level with him about the real history of U.S. relations with Iraq, Iran and Israel’s Likud Party – even if the father has to admit to illegal and unethical conduct in the process.
The latest Iraq embarrassment – allegations that the longtime U.S. favorite Ahmed Chalabi and the intelligence chief for Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress were Iranian spies – derives from the younger Bush’s continuing failure to see the Middle East as it is, not how he might like it to be. While Bush junior crafts hopeful nation-building plans, he doesn’t seem to have the foggiest notion who the players are, where their true allegiances may lie or why these conflicting interests could undermine U.S. policy.
These are relationships that the senior George Bush knows well because he was there as they took shape over the past quarter century. But he also has spent almost as much time covering up the facts. Now, like the Marlon Brando character in “The Godfather” explaining Corleone family secrets to son Michael, elder Bush needs to tell junior Bush about these hard facts. Otherwise, junior will continue to stumble through the political mine fields of the Middle East, not knowing where the bombs are buried, who to trust or what their past connections to U.S. adversaries may have been.

More from the above article but this is from Bob Woodward's book:

When questioned about getting his father’s advice, the younger George Bush sounds almost petulant. “I can’t remember a moment where I said to myself, maybe he can help me make the decision,” Bush told Woodward.
Bush said he couldn’t remember any specifics about conversations he may have had with his father about the conflict. “I’m not trying to be evasive,” Bush said. “I don’t remember. I could ask him and see if he remembers something. But how do you ask a person, What does it feel like to send somebody in and them lose life? Remember, I’ve already done so, for starters, in Afghanistan. …
“You know, he is the wrong father to appeal to in terms of strength. There is a higher father that I appeal to.”

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Also, this: http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cs … tml]Robert Novak ain't no leftie.

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