Fun and games - in the Grand Canyon

Bill White · 2004-01-12 17:01:56

Read this then tell me how old those rocks from Mars are.

Ain't America grand?

Everyone has a right to make their case, whatever that case may be. Yet should this book be sold in the "Science" section or the "Inspiration" section?

Adrian · 2004-01-12 17:59:03

Sigh. When you are getting depressed by things like this, it is worth reading this article from Prospect which says that things aren't as bad as they seem.

It's still depressing though ???

clark · 2004-01-12 18:18:39

Let each have their say. What's wrong with that?

Josh Cryer · 2004-01-12 19:26:07

So you say it goes in the science section, eh, clark?

Bill White · 2004-01-12 21:25:57

Let each have their say. What's wrong with that?

Nothing.

All books belong in the library. A good librarian merely decides which book goes on which shelf.

On which shelf do you believe the book in question belongs?

clark · 2004-01-12 21:55:28

the bottom.

Bill White · 2004-01-12 21:59:54

Sorry for this thread, I was feeling a wee bit trollish earlier.

Josh Cryer · 2004-01-13 01:11:45

Nah, almost anything goes in Free Chat...

I finally had a chance to read Adrian's link (pretty long article), and yeah, it makes some really good points. I was never really discouraged by false-scientists anyhow.

clark · 2004-01-13 07:33:47

I read about this a few weeks ago, and it just keeps getting funnier!

Come on, what's the deal? Some people got together, made a book that sounds legitimate, and want to present it as an equal, if contradictory, dipction of how the Canyon was formed.

Now scientists are in the position of calling on a 'ban' of the book. Think about that situation for a moment.

While you and I may differ on the value of this stuff, or where or where it should not be placed within a bookstore, we must step carefully.

It's a bookstore in the grand canyon selling books about the grand canyon. What else do we expect to be in there?

Now some are getting bent out of shape by where this particular book is placed. Did they go through the map section with as much care? Would they argue so vehemently about a creationists map of the park? It's just absurd.

I agree with the decision not to allow a rebuttal-book to this particular creastionists account be sold within the park for the sole reason that it's an infantile approach to the probelm.
Will we make the park's bookstore the next battleground between the creationists and the scientists? Where does it stop? How many rebuttal-rebuttal-rebutal-books will we end up with?

Are there any sane americans left?

Take the plaque's down. I don't want bible verses in my national parks anymore than I want Hari Krishna's.

But for the love of god, let this go; I for one think we need to worry about other things than where some goofy booked is placed on a bookshelf. It certainly dosen't deserve this amount of attention... but we look anyway. [sigh]

Josh Cryer · 2004-01-13 12:12:00

Nope, it doesn't deserve the attention, but the media gave it the attention, and as responsible fact seekers, it's important to respond to the problem appropriately.

You say that it'd be okay for creationists to put a map in the map section, that's fine by me, but when you go to a map section and see a novelty picture of the "old world" and how the earth used to be mapped out, it's patently clear that this map is incorrect. There are other maps in the area saying "hey, this is really what the world looks like."

So I think it's perfectly acceptable that a rebuttal book be written. If such a book is even necessary, which I don't think it is because the grand canyon book ought to be swamped by the accurate books which talk about geology. That is, the new maps make the old map look stupid and mere novelty items.

It's peoples choice to think that the world is flat, but to think that they can exist without other people telling them otherwise and to live in a sycophantic world where only their own beliefs exist, is just stupid.

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