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#3201 2026-06-28 22:59:14

RobertDyck: Moderator; From: Winnipeg, Canada; Registered: 2002-08-20; Posts: 8,501; Website

Re: Politics

The video warns of WILD propaganda that Americans are taught, but don't even realize. The video is by an American. Propaganda means lies that you have been fed, designed to control you. This is a warning, so you can wake up, and stop being the tool of whoever lied to you.
Mark Twain wrote "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled".

Please stop being defensive. This is an American teaching Americans how they have been lied to and controlled.

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#3202 2026-06-29 09:33:59

Void: Member; Registered: 2011-12-29; Posts: 9,736

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I am not as defensive as you might think from my words, but to me it is so surprising that you are completely convinced that the rest of the world is sane and America is insane.

The "Fixtures" that you fear, are to a large extent efforts persuade at a hypnotic level, that they belong to a singular nation. After all we had the experience of the Civil War. But I think you will recall that if they overdo it we will get something like the Viet Nam counter-culture.
So, we are not an army of zombies.

The Viet Nam war in my opinion was due to the vestiges of European Empires putting an adolescent America into foolish endeavors. That includes the Soviet Empire and those of the French, British, and others.

The drug money from the golden triangle. When at the level of something like the CIA or MI6, dirty pool is the reality that that is played at.

For the moment America has broken lose from these globalists that are not particularly interested in American cultural values. Probably hold them in contempt.

The vestiges of empires are still involved in the dark parts of international relationships. The last time this cycle happened, were the Opium Wars. And here we have China, and "The city of London" (East India Company), doing drug wars on the west.

In Canada, your leadership have adopted the notion that there is no Canada or no Canadian. That then opens your provinces and territories to further colonization, this time from vestiges of the former empires.

I think the concept of "The city of London", is distinct to some extent from the United Kingdom. But the United Kingdom is under the heal of "The city of London".

There are those who claim that that entity was responsible for Hitler and the rise of Comunism.

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Why the phrase “unending killing” fits his worldview
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Taken as I do, this means that he intended to test the Jews and the Germans to the limits to try to achieve a perfected people by exclusion of inferiors, using and promoting conflict between groups. I feel that the European aristocracy, decided that they were the flower of mankind, the perfect people who came out of Africa and became white, and destroyed all the peoples they encountered. Now polluted by mixing the task was to promote cruel conflict to burn the inferior out of the blood lines.

In this view the idea was to tell the Germans that they were racially special, but somewhat polluted and being a special Master Race, could overcome all peoples. Americans were considered mongrel, inferiors, and so were expected to fold easily. But the actual plan was to kill as many Germans and Jews and other ethnic groups as possible. They being convinced that the survival of the fittest notion was the path to creating a "Super Race".

The idea was to test the German people to the limits. So, the loss of Russia in the end was not the fault of the plan, the Germans were not good enough. And therefore, the more of them that could be killed by the Soviets the better. The plan might have captured the Soviet Union, but did not but it did its most important task which was to kill the weak.

So, I am afraid I think that this is your Canadian heritage of the Mozaic. They are setting up red ants and black ants like stupid children and like to shake the jar from time to time to get the killing going again.

When I was young, my Swedish grandparents had an accent but only spoke to me in English. I think that was too bad. I would have benefited from learning Swedish.

Hypnosis is said to simply be the repeating of a notion.

When I went to school, there was everybody there that you might think of except black people, as they were not up that way in significant numbers. The Native Americans, the Italians, the Eastern Europeans, the Scandinavians, the Irish and I suppose British. Not that many though, I think. At that time there were mixes and not mixes.

Being a mining industry, periodically an ethic group would want better wages and conditions, so the mining companies would bring in a new ethnic group for workers. As I understand it before my time those ethnic groups used to do gang war on each other on weekends.

Now after everyone is so mixed, that does not make sense.

But in that time, it was very useful to convince people to not do red and black ants in a jar.

Of course the crime syndicates of the world, would love to make money on violence and drugs.

So, they keep trying to produce red ants/black ants so they can make money, and accomplish power.

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#3203 2026-07-01 02:46:15

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Re: Politics

Elites rely on mass passivity.
https://youtu.be/-glWDhEyw14

This why you always elect the system, regardless of who you vote for.

"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."

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#3204 2026-07-06 18:49:31

RobertDyck: Moderator; From: Winnipeg, Canada; Registered: 2002-08-20; Posts: 8,501; Website

Re: Politics

I could post this on Facebook, but a number of members here are American.
Congresswoman Tenney Introduces CANADA Act to Hold Canada Accountable for Unfair Provincial Trade Practices Targeting American Alcohol Producers

For context, when Donald Trump created tariffs on Canadian products, Canada created retaliatory measures. The Canadian government went through this during Trump's first term. For some reason, Trump hates Canada. Trump wants to treat Canada as a vassal, and thinks he can bully Canada.

I live in the Canadian province of Manitoba. Most provinces, including Manitoba, removed all American liquor off store shelves. Actually, after many months of this, I wrote an email to the provincial minister in charge. The liquor sitting in a warehouse cost money, and I don't want prices that I pay to go for liquor not sold. So I asked him to sell off American liquor from the warehouse. This means Manitoba will not purchase an more liquor from the US, just empty the supplies in the warehouse. Actually, I asked him to put it on clearance sale, became people understand what a clearance sale means. The liquor store only reduces prices by 10% or so when a product is on sale, so that sale isn't much of a cost reduction anyway. The government made an announcement that all proceeds from sale of American liquor would be donated to charity. When I later learned, is the government only did that the first month after returning American liquor on store shelves. Now it's being sold at full price, no sale at all. And the Liquor Mart is not donating any of the proceeds. Uh huh. Whatever.

The point is this is a retaliatory measure for Trump's attacks. If American liquor producers want Canadian stores to purchase American liquor again, then get Trump to stop attacking Canada. The US Constitution states Congress has the power of the purse. Only Congress can create tariffs. Trump tried to use a legal loophole to do it by Presidential Decree. The US Supreme Court already made a ruling against this, and ordered most tariffs to be removed. So Trump found another excuse, and put the tariffs back on. This is contempt of court. It's supposed to be Congress that deals with this. Get a backbone people!!!

Again, as soon as all Trump's tariffs on Canada are removed, then liquor will go back on shelves.

The only American liquor that I regularly bought was a brand of flavoured wine that I got for my girlfriend. There's a Canadian brand that is very similar. When I get flavoured wine for my girl, I buy that Canadian brand. I think I'll stick with it.

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#3205 2026-07-06 19:28:31

Void: Member; Registered: 2011-12-29; Posts: 9,736

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Congress holds the constitutional power to regulate foreign commerce, impose tariffs, and collect revenue, but has long delegated certain tariff-setting powers to the President under specific statutory authorities.
Constitutional Basis
Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to “lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises” and to regulate commerce with foreign nations legalclarity.org+1. This means Congress is the only branch that can create tariff policy from scratch, and any state-level tariff authority must be authorized by Congress legalclarity.org.
Delegation to the President
Over time, Congress has passed laws giving the President authority to impose or adjust tariffs in certain circumstances, often to respond quickly to trade disputes, national security threats, or economic imbalances. Key statutes include Congress.gov+2:
Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 – Allows tariffs to protect national security if imports threaten it, but requires specific findings and processes.
Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 – Lets the President impose tariffs to address unfair trade practices or violations of trade agreements.
Section 201 – Authorizes tariffs to safeguard domestic industries from imports that are dumping or subsidized.
Section 122 – Permits tariffs to address international payments problems.
Section 338 of the Tariff Act of 1930 – Allows tariffs to counter discrimination against the U.S.
International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) of 1977 – Grants broad powers in emergencies, including tariff measures.
These statutes vary in the degree of presidential discretion they allow. Some require an executive agency to conduct investigations and make findings before tariffs can be imposed Congress.gov.
Judicial Review and Deference
Courts have generally upheld these delegations, holding they do not impermissibly transfer Congress’s legislative power to the executive Congress.gov+1. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit has traditionally given the President broad deference, allowing him to use these statutes unless he “clearly misconstrues” their scope or acts outside unreviewable discretion Congress.gov+1. Recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions, such as Loper Bright v. Raimondo, may reduce this deference, prompting debate over whether lower courts should apply stricter scrutiny Free Online Library.
Recent Use and Challenges
Recent administrations have used these authorities to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum, imports from China, and other goods Congress.gov+1. Courts have generally upheld these actions, though some cases have challenged the scope or process, especially when the President’s interpretation of statutory language is at issue.
Key Takeaway
While Congress retains ultimate control over tariffs, it has delegated specific, limited powers to the President under statutory frameworks. These delegations are subject to constitutional limits, statutory requirements, and judicial review, ensuring that presidential tariff actions remain within defined legal boundaries.

I do not consider myself to be wise in these matters.

But if I understand it, congress has cut a few road that allow and may even compel the President to do Tariffs or regulations of commerce such as quotas for various reasons.

The Supreme Court majority decided to interpret the presidents use of one of the methods was improper. Not all the Judges agreed.

The politics of the game are more or less three groups.

1) True Americans.
2) Judas Americans (Entangled in foreign interests they hold more important than the interests of America).
3) Sheeple.

With politics pressures can be applied.

The method that the President was using was relatively easy to apply.
The methods he has to use now make them do more work to make them happen.

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An example of politics driving judgement is on Shale Oil.

OPEC + Russia did not want Shale Oil to happen. So, they passed money around and also disinformation on Shale Oil.
Putin even recently said that Shale Oil was immoral.

The worst members of the ignorant Sheeple and the Judas people, bought into it.
There are two ways to make money with oil these days.

1) Make sure that the source and the market do not overlap, and import oil. Get favors and money from OPEC + Russia to use political power to do that. (Biden, the City of London).

2) Do Shale Oil in America and sell it to Americans and others. (Trump, America)

Enough Americans had sanity to examine the truth about shale oil. It was not fracking that caused Earthquakes but the improper disposal of
produced water from the wells into the undergrounds near faults.

Also, it was proven that the Fracking done properly did not poison the ground water table.

I use the shale example to show that on the issue of Tariffs, there can be true Americans and Judas Americans who for good or selfish reasons will try to bend judgement on what is and is not the correct thing to do.

That is about all I have to say about it.

You can do what you like with your Alcohol. We don't stay up at night worrying about it. (Most of us).

Have a good Evening Robert.

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#3206 2026-07-06 20:50:57

RobertDyck: Moderator; From: Winnipeg, Canada; Registered: 2002-08-20; Posts: 8,501; Website

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Void,
Your division is highly political, and does not achieve unity within your country. Separating people into "True Americans" only if they agree with you, or only if they agree with the faction you chose to align yourself with, is fundamentally divisive and harmful. To your country. Then you call others "Judas Americans" and "Sheeple". Well, the term "Sheeple" most correctly applies to those who blindly believe what the current government is doing. You should always be critical of government, regardless which political party is currently in power.

Putin has unfortunate influence over Trump. Putin has an agenda. He wants NATO to dissolve, because he believes Russia can conquer all of Europe as long as Russia only fights one country at a time. I do not believe that, but Putin does. Furthermore, when the Warsaw Pact existed, Russia dictated to other nations who were members. Putin believes NATO works the same; that America dictates to the rest of NATO. That's not how free countries work. But Putin believes if he can trick Trump into ordering America's military to attack a member nation of NATO, then NATO will completely fall apart. Again, that's now how it works. That won't happen. But Putin believes it, so manipulates Trump into trying to use military force to annex Greenland. Doing so would be a massive mistake, weaken the United States, but do not believe NATO would simply fall apart. NATO was created to defend Europe from Russia. Russia is now engaging in the largest land war since World War 2. If America abandons Europe, then Europe will be highly disappointed. But NATO will stay together because they know their options are stand together, or fall separately.

So Putin wants to separate USA from Canada. Because Putin knows that will harm both countries. The US gets its potash fertilizer from Canada. Agriculture would be in great trouble without fertilizer. There are only 3 countries in the world that export potash: Canada, Russia, and Belarus. So guess what Putin wants to control.

Aluminum: Canada does not have bauxite ore, because bauxite is created by a tropical rain forest. The only locations with bauxite either have a rain forest, or used to have one millions of years ago. Some bauxite was mined in Alabama, but quality bauxite was used up long ago. What is left now has too much contamination. Traditional processing methods do not remove that contamination. It's theoretically possible to remove, but would be expensive. It's easier to import clean bauxite from Brazil and Australia. Alabama bauxite is now used for drilling shale oil. Yes, that again.

Alcoa is a major American aluminum smelter. The province of Quebec made a deal with Alcoa. They could build a hydro-electric dam in a valley in the northern Laurentian mountains. A river flows down most of those valleys. Alcoa was allowed to build a hydro dam, and own that dam. Alcoa did not have to buy the land that would be flooded. The location was so far north that no crops will grow there, just trees. And no humans live there. Building the dam employed a number of local people in Quebec, providing paying jobs. The aluminum smelter was built beside it. Processing bauxite involves a chemical process to become aluminum oxide, then electrolysis to become aluminum metal. That requires a lot of electricity. But Alcoa doesn't have to pay one cent for electricity, because they own the hydro dam. A hydro dam has a high up-front cost, but operation is so cheap that over the life of a dam it's the least expensive way to generate electricity. And Alcoa doesn't pay a cent because they own and operate the dam.

The Laurentian mountains look very much like the Appalachian mountains. An American company such as Alcoa could dam up a valley somewhere in the Appalachians, but I don't think you'll find a valley with a river that has significant water flow and has no one living there. Would Trump allow Alcoa to simply "take" an entire valley, flood it, drown all trees, farms, wildlife, people's homes and cabins, commercial business, factories, etc? And do so without Alcoa or anyone else compensating the people who have been displaced?

Some statistics: 85% to 90% of Canada's aluminum comes from Quebec. Quebec produces 70% to 75% of all aluminum made in North America. Breakdown is different than it was. Today, Alcoa produces 25% of aluminum made in Quebec. Rio Tinto 50%. Aluminerie Alouette 25%. There used to be a Canadian owned aluminum company called Alcan, but Rio Tinto bought them. Rio Tinto is an Australian company. Alouette is a consortium, Rio Tinto owns 40%.

Then United States chose to invest in aluminum recycling instead. The US recycles a lot of aluminum. My point: is aluminum from Canada really a bad thing? Trump claims he's allowed to do this. Canada says no, it's a violation of the USMCA.

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#3207 2026-07-07 06:25:16

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Void,
Your division is highly political, and does not achieve unity within your country. Separating people into "True Americans" only if they agree with you, or only if they agree with the faction you chose to align yourself with, is fundamentally divisive and harmful. To your country. Then you call others "Judas Americans" and "Sheeple". Well, the term "Sheeple" most correctly applies to those who blindly believe what the current government is doing. You should always be critical of government, regardless which political party is currently in power.

The division is caused by people who serve foreign interests over American interests. If they do it for foreign "Candy" then they are Judas. I they do it out of ignorance, then from my view they are misdirected "Sheeple".

The historical baggage of the situation in the 60's, 70's and so on, and the loss of oil production changed our economy, and stripped out the so called rust belt. This was done in part as a way to appease China to lure China away from the "Red Block". And this favored importers over local producers.

When Shale showed, up, the Importers and the international producers tried to shut it down. That was in part because importers wanted to serve their own game, and because foreign interests preferred to be able to block oil imports at times that might suit them. It is apparent that probably Bidens doners were from the importer/foreign producer category. They were either ignorant of the disservice they were doing to America or they felt that the costal importer people were much more important than the "Fly Over" people.

As for Trump, I think he saw his chances to get support from people who had interests more aligned with American independence. It happens that that was useful to the interior of the country. He is against windmills or says so, but I don't care Windmills and solar and other tech is going to continually emerge.

My whole life I have seen notions from foreigners that America is an expiring empire. I don't think so, and I think those people want it to be.

Putin? He has his own game. I do not expect him to look after America's interests. But he can be of use to us, and we might be mutually useful to us at times. He or Russia, or things that seem like Russia.

Aluminum? Well, you have a massive deposit of a different kind of ore in your west, I believe.
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A major new alumina (aluminum oxide) deposit has been discovered in east-central Saskatchewan, near the town of Tisdale, by Canadian Energy Metals Corp. (CEM). The project is called Project Thor and is being touted as one of the largest known alumina resources on Earth Global News+1.
Scale and Significance
Estimated resource: 6.8 billion tonnes of alumina contained in 49.5 billion tonnes of ore, with an inferred resource of 86.6 billion tonnes Global News.
This is roughly one-third of the world’s known alumina supply CBC.
The deposit covers about 600 square km and is confined to a 230 sq mi area 980 CJME+1.
It is not bauxite but polymetallic black shale, which could reduce environmental impact compared to traditional bauxite processing CBC.
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Potential game-changer for North America’s aluminum supply chain, offering a secure domestic source to reduce reliance on imported bauxite 980 CJME+1.
Could create a new processing and value-added industry in Saskatchewan, with high-paying jobs, royalty/tax revenues, and decades of regional economic growth 980 CJME.
Proximity to rail, power, and hydroelectric infrastructure (including two dams near Nipawin) supports efficient transport and energy needs www.canadianenergymetals.com.
Processing and Products
CEM is developing a low-energy, environmentally robust process to recover aluminum, initially as aluminum chloride hexahydrate (ACH), then to alumina (Al₂O₃) in grades such as Chemical Grade Alumina (CGA) and High Purity Alumina (HPA) www.canadianenergymetals.com.
Plans also include Smelter Grade Alumina (SGA), plus recovery of scandium and vanadium www.canadianenergymetals.com.
Development Status
Preliminary Economic Assessment (PEA) completed in March 2026, projecting:
25-year project life
16.5 Mt/year ore throughput
1.8 Mt/year alumina production
US$6.3B initial capital cost
US$1.6B annual operating cost
IRR of 72% and NPV of US$72.3B Global News.
CEM is preparing for a demonstration plant in 2026, with plans to enter a joint venture or attract strategic investors for commercialization www.canadianenergymetals.com+1.
Government and Industry Support
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has called it a “significant discussion” for the province’s economy Global News.
The project aligns with federal critical minerals initiatives and North American trade objectives www.canadianenergymetals.com+1.
In summary: The Thor Project in Saskatchewan could transform Canada’s aluminum supply chain, offering a vast, low-impact domestic source of alumina, with strong infrastructure and economic potential if developed.

That's a good one! Well, what happened when we found a lot of shale oil and shale gas? To make a buck, you need a market.

If Canada cuts us off to spite their face, then Canada must sell to the rest of the globe. If Canada sells to the rest of the globe there will be lots of scrap metal. So, Canada would dig up the ore and use its electricity to process the first time. Then places like America can scavenge
Scrap Aluminum on the world market. It takes much less energy to redo Aluminum than to do it the first time. So, we technically get a benefit from your ore and your Electricity.

But as a national Sovern interest we need to have Aluminum production here anyway even if we don't have much ore. This is particularly obvious as it is obvious that Canada can be driven to hatred of us with the drop of a hat. It is obvious that one must lock doors when near Canadians.

We will find out about the "He Said"/"She Said" on the legality of tariffs on Aluminum. I think our powers here may favor the Trump stance on the grounds of national security, especially because Canadians have displayed so much hate.

I don't hold it against you to wave Potash in my face, but:
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The United States currently imports about 93–98% of its potash, with Canada (mainly Saskatchewan) supplying roughly 83–90% of that AgWeb+1. Domestic production is minimal — only about 0.2–0.7% of total demand — and is held back by regulatory hurdles, permitting delays, and uncertainty AgWeb+1. Potash is a potassium-rich fertilizer essential for crops like corn and soybeans, which dominate U.S. farmland and food security.
Why the U.S. Wants to Mine More
Potash was first designated a critical mineral in 2018 under a Trump administration executive order, but was removed from the 2022 list before being reinstated in 2025 AgWeb+1. This move signals that policymakers see potash as vital to agricultural security, national food supply, and economic stability. The Fertilizer Institute and industry groups argue that stable, affordable access to potash is critical for U.S. farmers, rural economies, and food prices AgWeb.
Domestic Potential
Several U.S. deposits could support significant production:
Michigan Potash & Salt Co. in Evart, Michigan, has federal backing to mine 800,000 tons annually (expandable to 4 million tons) AgWeb+1.
The deposit is located near the U.S. fertilizer demand center, with a projected lifespan of over 150 years www.agrolatam.com.
Other states and companies are exploring additional reserves, though none are at the scale of Michigan’s.
Policy and Economic Drivers
Executive Order on Critical Minerals: Directs the cabinet to accelerate domestic potash production AgWeb.
Fertilizer Independence Strategy: Aims to boost U.S. production of potash, phosphate, and ammonia to cut import reliance www.agrolatam.com.
Tariffs and Trade: Tariffs on Canadian goods have increased political pressure to develop domestic capacity AgWeb+1.
Challenges
Regulatory delays: Permitting and environmental reviews slow projects AgWeb.
Scale vs. demand: Even with Michigan’s large deposit, it would meet only a fraction of U.S. needs discoveryalert.com.au.
Geopolitical risk: Canada remains the dominant supplier, so domestic production would still require international coordination discoveryalert.com.au.
Outlook
With the critical minerals designation, federal backing, and private investment, the U.S. is moving toward greater domestic potash capacity. Michigan’s project alone could help meet 10% of national demand by 2028 www.agrolatam.com. However, achieving full self-sufficiency will require:
Accelerating permitting and regulatory reforms.
Expanding exploration and development in multiple states.
Integrating with other domestic fertilizer production goals.
In short, yes — the U.S. can develop its own potash, but it will be a gradual process, with significant near-term gains from existing projects and policy support, while long-term self-sufficiency will depend on sustained investment and regulatory efficiency.

We will see. In any case it will be wise to build a stockpile if possible.

I am going to guess that there are potash deposits in other countries.

A cutoff of Potash from Canada, would probably lead the USA closer to Russia. I think it would be unlikely that there would be an alliance of Russa and the Commonwealth against us, as the British and Russians have been at a level of blood hatred for some time.

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Here is how the game is played. The US offers pipelines to Alberta. Ottawa/Carney/London step on that. West Canada gets restless. Sooner or later a more Canadian National attitude allows pipelines Alberta>Ontario (Now).

West Canada has so many goodies, basically at some time the local powers may pry your coastal powers hands off the till. West Canada gets rich or the Coast powers cause it to separate and get rich.

So, there is a box up North we call Canada, which most likely will not split, but might, and either way, its goodies are going to Markets. Directly to America or indirectly to America. The West of Canada had some amount of American immigration which was not like the bad blood immigration that happened at the birth of the USA.

So, we can look forward to one or two neighbors to our North and the one that more resembles us, will be more economically powerful than the East.

And Canada or West Canada will want to sell those goodies to us, as they will like money.

Again, for Aluminum, if the world market for scrap Aluminum is flooded, we can stockpile scrap Aluminum somewhere as it does not Oxidize very fast.

Looking forward to a happy future with Canada or Canadas.

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#3208 2026-07-07 10:36:40

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Re: Politics

TLDR

I'm sorry you're having difficulty understanding the point. When you punch someone in the face, don't expect them to lie down and take it. After punching Canada in the face, Canada retaliated. If this US Congresswoman wants Canada to allow sale of US liquor, then she can remove tariffs imposed on Canada. The US Constitution says Congress has the power of the purse, so Congress has the power of tariffs. So this Congresswoman has no one but herself and her colleges to blame.

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#3209 2026-07-07 11:35:22

Void: Member; Registered: 2011-12-29; Posts: 9,736

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OK, then refuse to communicate or understand. Demand that only you can assert what is proper.

It might not matter, or someday it might matter.

This discussion therefore due to TLDR, is not worth continuing, it seems.

No hate, just an agreement not to communicate.

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#3210 2026-07-17 13:45:41

RobertDyck: Moderator; From: Winnipeg, Canada; Registered: 2002-08-20; Posts: 8,501; Website

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Posted on Facebook, from the Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania

On this day, July 17th, 1984, the national drinking age was raised from 18 to 21 through federal pressure on states via highway funding, imposing centralized control over what had traditionally been a state matter. This policy was justified on safety grounds but represented a clear federal overreach into personal and state autonomy. It limited individual choice for young adults while expanding Washington’s influence.
The Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania critiques state coercion and advocates for individual choice in personal decisions such as alcohol consumption. We believe adults should have the freedom to make their own choices without federal mandates. Let's return such matters to states and individuals.

I live in the Canadian province of Manitoba. On April 25, 1970, it was lowered from 21 to 18. The reason was military recruitment age is 18. And Canada does have the draft; Canada uses the British term Conscription. Conscription has only been activated twice in Canadian history: World War 1 and 2. It was highly controversial both times, and had to be cancelled as soon as the war was over. Conscription age is 18. If an individual is old enough to die in war, and old enough to kill in war, then they're old enough to drink. So I see what the US did as backwards.

US military recruitment age is 17 with parental consent, or 18 without. So the same justification used in Canada applies to the US.

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#3211 2026-07-17 13:59:27

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Wednesday 4 US Republican Senators, John James, Jack Bergman, John Moolenaar and Lisa McClain, released a letter. They complained about smoke from Canadian forest fires. With more threats of the 51st state. If you don't want Canada critiquing internal things within the US, then don't complain about internal things within Canada. Yes, Canada does have forests. The US has cleared so much forest, that there aren't enough trees in the US to produce enough lumber to meet the US market demand for lumber. A long-winded way of saying Canada does still have vast forests, the US doesn't. Forests in the US are comparatively small.

CBC: Republicans blast Canada over wildfire smoke, air quality in northern U.S.

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#3212 2026-07-19 09:33:09

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Tom suggested lightning rods to prevent forest fires. That won't work in Canadian forests. Canadian forests are vast, too vast. For structures up to 30 metres high (just over 30 yards) it protects a cone 45° from the top tip of the rod. Above that, protection does not cover a larger area. So 30 metre radius.
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Canadian forests are vast. This map shows most of Canada is covered by forest. Agricultural land has fields. Northern area shown here in pink is tundra, so no trees. A lot of southern Ontario is built-up. The rest is forest.

Taiga forest is Boreal forest growing over permafrost. Result is smaller trees, and the trees often grow at odd angles, not necessarily perfectly straight.

Fire is a natural part of any forest. When a forest has spent too much time without fire, the mix of trees change. For one, jack pine have pine cones that only open with fire. So they only seed by fire. Result can change the forest to more deciduous trees, fewer evergreen. That makes the forest more vulnerable to forest fire. If a large area is like that, instead of forest fire being just a small patch of forest, it can cover a much larger area. After fire jack pine and other fast-growth trees grow. Fast growth trees have more moisture, so more resistant to fire.

Canada has provided firefighters to the US to help with your forest fires. And will continue to do so. Now accept forest fires are a fact of nature, a fundamental characteristic of all forests, and wind does not respect borders.

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#3213 2026-07-19 10:01:13

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The forest as it exists is not "Natural".

I can make a degree of argument that the death of megafauna was a result or contributed to alteration of the ecosystem.
One of the holdovers was Bison, and Wood Bison. These in part may have helped to keep more land open to grasses instead of continuous forests. In such a situation fire might be more local and be useful to clear underbrush.

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Original Range of the Wood Bison
The wood bison (Bison bison athabascae) is a large northern subspecies of American bison that historically occupied a vast stretch of the boreal forest and grassy meadow habitats of northern North America. Its original range included:
Alaska (much of the boreal forest regions)
Yukon
Western Northwest Territories (Canada)
Northeastern British Columbia
Northern Alberta
Northwestern Saskatchewan Wikipedia+1
This range reflects the animal’s adaptation to cold climates, deep snow, and the need for open grassy areas within the dense boreal forest. Wood bison are the larger of the two modern American bison subspecies, with a distinctive tall hump and dense coat suited to winter survival Alaska Department of Fish and Game.
Historically, they were widespread across these regions, but by the late 19th and early 20th centuries, habitat loss, hunting, and interbreeding with plains bison in Wood Buffalo National Park led to a near-extinction of pure wood bison herds. A nearly pure herd was rediscovered in 1957 in the park, and today the species is considered Vulnerable globally, though it remains native to parts of Canada Wikipedia.
In summary, the wood bison’s original range spanned the boreal and subarctic grasslands of Alaska, Yukon, western Canada’s Northwest Territories, and into northern and western parts of the United States, with its core habitat in the boreal forest and associated meadows.

The evergreen forest may be improperly placed and expanded at this point.

The reasons for the conversion from Mammoth Steppe are not settled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_Park

Human hunting may have had an effect, or vice versa, climate change killed the megafauna.

I believe that much of the conifer forest should be removed. As it projects above the snow, it warms the planet. As it warms the planet, it pushes further north, in North America.

A probable solution will be robots, that cut the excess growth down and convert it into fuels and products. Your greens will say that you can't put the Carbon into the air, but if you let it overgrow it will burn in massive forest fires.

Products that are wood-like are now being made from weeds similar to grasses. With cheap robot labor it should be possible to do the same with excess growth. Perhaps putting 50% of the land back to Grasslands, and so putting up fire barriers, and also clearing excessive brush to make a resource available.

Your greens may say "It's not natural", well what is natural?

I'm quite natural, naturally.

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Probably the reason Bison were not in Eastern Canada is that the soils were poor from recent glacial activity pushing the soil south. Even so, clearing forest around rivers might allow the Wood Bison to do OK, I expect. They were almost at the Arctic Ocean at one point.

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Query: "Do Wood Bison help hold back the forest?"

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Do Wood Bison Help Hold Back the Forest?
Wood bison (Bison bison athabascae) do not “hold back” forests in the sense of physically blocking tree growth, but they play a key role in shaping boreal forest ecosystems by maintaining open meadows, creating habitat features, and influencing plant communities.
Maintaining open spaces
Wood bison graze on grasses, sedges, and forbs in forest meadows, preventing any single plant species from dominating. This selective grazing helps keep areas open, which can reduce dense undergrowth and allow sunlight to reach the forest floor, supporting a mix of plant types zoo-guide.com.
Creating microhabitats
Their wallowing behavior produces shallow depressions in the ground that can fill with rainwater, forming temporary wetlands. These wetlands attract insects, birds, amphibians, and other wildlife, adding biodiversity to the forest edge zoo-guide.com+1.
Trail networks and movement
By moving through the forest, wood bison create snow paths and open corridors that other animals use for travel. This movement can help connect habitat patches and influence the distribution of plants and animals zoo-guide.com.
Soil and nutrient effects
Their hooves aerate the soil, improving water infiltration and root growth. Their dung and urine add organic matter, enriching the soil and supporting plant regeneration wecarewild.org.
Ecological role
In boreal ecosystems, where forests and open meadows often coexist, wood bison act as keystone species. Their presence supports plant diversity, soil health, and wildlife habitat, which in turn influences the structure and function of the forest zoo-guide.com+1.
In summary:
Wood bison don’t stop trees from growing, but they help maintain a balance between forest and open areas, create habitat complexity, and support biodiversity. This makes them important for the health and resilience of boreal forests, even if they don’t “hold back” the forest in a literal sense.

Query: "What plants do wood bison eat?"
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Wood Bison Diet and Plant Foods
Wood bison (Bison bison athabascae), a northern subspecies of American bison, are herbivorous grazers that feed primarily on grasses, sedges, and forbs Animalia. Their diet is shaped by the boreal forest and tundra environments they inhabit, where deep snow and seasonal changes affect food availability.
Primary plant foods:
Grasses and sedges – These form the bulk of their diet year-round, especially in open areas and along riverbanks where snow cover is thinner Animalia+1.
Forbs – Herbaceous flowering plants that provide protein and nutrients, often eaten alongside grasses Animalia.
Shrubs and woody vegetation – In summer, they supplement their diet with silverberry and willow leaves when available Animalia.
Seasonal and environmental influences:
Winter: Deep snow can bury food, so wood bison use their large heads and neck muscles to dig for edible plants Animalia.
Spring/Summer: As snow melts, they shift to softer, greener vegetation, including willow and silverberry leaves Animalia.
Drought or scarcity: They may widen their diet to include more forbs and shrubs, and in extreme cases, consume bark or other woody parts North American Nature.
Ecological role:
By grazing on native grasses, sedges, and forbs, wood bison help maintain open landscapes, promote plant diversity, and influence nutrient cycling through their waste www.dvguy.com+1. Their feeding habits can shape the boreal ecosystem, creating habitats for other species.
In summary, wood bison eat a mix of native grasses, sedges, forbs, and, in summer, shrubs like willow and silverberry, adapting their diet to seasonal snow cover, plant availability, and environmental conditions.

So, just moving about they may crush or damage seedlings which might try to take over the Medows, scraping snow to get to food in the winter may also damage saplings.

A combination of smaller fires and Bison and other animals that stomp on things may help to create partitions in the forest that might help to limit the scope of fires. Adding Robot Labor and using Bison and selective burns might manage the stituation.

Again, if the greens say it is not natural, it was not natural for people with guns to kill off the Bison.

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#3214 2026-07-19 11:53:27

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I took a further look, it seems that wild horses should be present as well, even in the tundra at times.

Query: "When did horses go extinct in North America?"
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Horses went extinct in North America approximately 10,000–11,000 years ago during the Late Pleistocene epoch.
Horses originally evolved in North America over tens of millions of years, with the genus Equus appearing around 4–5 million years ago
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. By the Late Pleistocene, several species such as Equus scotti, Equus lambei, and Equus mexicanus roamed the continent, ranging from Alaska and Canada to Mexico and the southern United States
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. These horses were medium to large grazers, well adapted to grassland and steppe environments
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The extinction of native horses occurred roughly 10,000–11,000 years ago, coinciding with the end of the last Ice Age and the disappearance of many other large mammals in North America
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. The causes of this extinction are debated but likely involved a combination of rapid climate change, which altered habitats and vegetation, and overhunting by newly arrived humans, such as the Clovis culture
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. Some evidence suggests that small, isolated populations may have persisted slightly longer in certain regions, but these were ultimately unsustainable
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After their extinction, horses were absent from North America until they were reintroduced by Europeans, beginning with Spanish horses brought by Christopher Columbus in 1493 and later by Hernán Cortés in 1519
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. These reintroduced horses eventually spread across the continent, profoundly influencing Native American cultures and ecosystems
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The extinction of North American horses highlights the impact of environmental change and human activity on megafauna and provides important lessons for modern conservation efforts.

Query: "Original Range of Wild Horses?"
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Horses went extinct in North America approximately 10,000–11,000 years ago during the Late Pleistocene epoch.
Horses originally evolved in North America over tens of millions of years, with the genus Equus appearing around 4–5 million years ago
scienceinsights.org
scienceinsights.org
. By the Late Pleistocene, several species such as Equus scotti, Equus lambei, and Equus mexicanus roamed the continent, ranging from Alaska and Canada to Mexico and the southern United States
scienceinsights.org
scienceinsights.org
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. These horses were medium to large grazers, well adapted to grassland and steppe environments
scienceinsights.org
scienceinsights.org
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The extinction of native horses occurred roughly 10,000–11,000 years ago, coinciding with the end of the last Ice Age and the disappearance of many other large mammals in North America
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
+1
. The causes of this extinction are debated but likely involved a combination of rapid climate change, which altered habitats and vegetation, and overhunting by newly arrived humans, such as the Clovis culture
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
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. Some evidence suggests that small, isolated populations may have persisted slightly longer in certain regions, but these were ultimately unsustainable
iere.org
iere.org
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After their extinction, horses were absent from North America until they were reintroduced by Europeans, beginning with Spanish horses brought by Christopher Columbus in 1493 and later by Hernán Cortés in 1519
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
. These reintroduced horses eventually spread across the continent, profoundly influencing Native American cultures and ecosystems
Wikipedia
Wikipedia
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The extinction of North American horses highlights the impact of environmental change and human activity on megafauna and provides important lessons for modern conservation efforts.

Query: "Did wild horses also live in the tundra?"
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Yes — wild horses did live in tundra-like environments, though not in the same way as today’s domesticated breeds.
In the Late Pleistocene and early Holocene, the wild horse (Equus ferus) ranged widely across the Old World, from Western Europe and North Africa to the far north of Siberia, including areas referred to as Equus lenensis Wikipedia. This northernmost range extended into the forest–tundra and Arctic regions, where the climate was harsh and vegetation was sparse. While the fossil record doesn’t show Equus ferus in the open Arctic ice sheet itself, it does indicate that wild horses were present in the cold, treeless zones of Siberia and northern Asia Wikipedia.
Today, the only truly wild horse species is Przewalski’s horse (Equus ferus przewalskii), which historically lived in the steppes of Central Asia but was reintroduced to parts of its former range Wikipedia. However, in the far north, Yakutian horses — a breed descended from Central Asian stock — have adapted to survive in the Arctic Circle and forest–tundra of northeastern Siberia Great American Adventures+1. These horses are small, compact, and have thick coats and manes to withstand extreme cold, sometimes down to –60°C (–76°F) www.lrgaf.org. They can hibernate while standing and have evolved shorter legs to reduce heat loss Great American Adventures.
So, while the Equus ferus wild horse itself is now extinct in the wild, its ancestors did inhabit the tundra and forest–tundra zones of Siberia, and modern Arctic-adapted horses like the Yakutian horse show that horses can live in such extreme environments.

Query: "Did world horses eat bushes in the winter in the North?"
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Yes — in the winter, wild horses in the North often eat bushes, shrubs, and other woody browse when grasses are scarce.
In cold months, wild horses shift from grazing on fresh grass to foraging on dried, standing grasses and, when those are buried under snow or gone, on twigs, shrubs, and tree bark biologyinsights.com+1. These woody plants, such as willow, aspen, cottonwood, juniper, sagebrush, and rabbitbrush, provide bulk, some minerals, and residual nutrients that help them survive until spring riverranch.org+1.
They may paw through snow up to 18 inches deep to reach buried vegetation, a behavior that costs energy but can yield low-quality forage biologyinsights.com. In some ecosystems, like deserts, they rely on hardy shrubs like sagebrush, while in mountain areas they eat conifer needles and bark biologyinsights.com.
This “scarcity diet” is a survival adaptation: the fiber in these plants supports hindgut fermentation, which generates heat to help maintain body temperature biologyinsights.com. While the nutritional quality is lower than summer grass, the bulk and minerals from shrubs and bushes are essential for keeping horses alive through the winter.
So, in short — yes, world horses (wild horses) in the North do eat bushes and shrubs in winter when other food is unavailable.

So here is free labor to eat bushes and keep the scrub down.

My guess is that in the winter if they could not reach grass due to the snow, they might even go into the forest, to eat scarcity diet items.

So, your natural forest is not natural at all, as it should have Wood Bison in the forests, and Horses all the way up to the Arctic Ocean in the summer.

Probably the correct thing is to reintroduce at least those two animals, and to also use robots to enhance fire breaks that those animals might frequent, and also to clear out excessive brush, undergrowth in places and convert it into resources.

Mammoths' simulations may be possible in the far future, but maybe they are not needed.

Your forest is sick due to human interference, in part.

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Yakutian Horse — The Siberian Cold-Climate Champion
The Yakutian horse (also called the Yakut or Sakha ata) is a native breed from Sakha (Yakutia) in eastern Siberia, Russia, renowned for its exceptional adaptation to extreme cold Wikipedia+1.
Origin and History
The breed developed between the 13th and 15th centuries when the Yakut people migrated into the region, bringing domesticated horses with them. These horses are not descended from wild Siberian horses of Neolithic times Wikipedia+1. Over centuries, they were selectively bred for survival in temperatures as low as −70°C (−94°F) Wikipedia+1.
Physical Traits
Height: Stallions ~140cm (13.3h), mares ~136cm (13.2h) Wikipedia
Weight: ~450–500kg (1,000–1,100lb) www.malazhorses.com
Build: Compact, stocky, low-slung with short, sturdy legs and thick neck for heat retention www.malazhorses.com
Coat: Winter coat up to 8–15cm (3–6in) thick, dense undercoat; mane and tail extremely long Wikipedia+1
Colors: Gray, bay, dun, roan; often solid-colored for better thermal retention www.malazhorses.com+1
Markings: Primitive patterns like dark dorsal stripe and zebra-like leg stripes Wikipedia+1
Subtypes
Northern Type – Purest breed, called Middle Kolyma or Verkhoyansk; most valuable Wikipedia+1
Smaller Southern Type – Pure but shorter; less valuable Wikipedia+1
Larger Southern Type – Crossbred with local breeds; common in central Yakutia Wikipedia+1
Adaptations to Siberia
Can graze under deep snow and survive unsheltered in Arctic winters Wikipedia+1
Compact body and short legs reduce heat loss (Allen’s rule) Wikipedia
Thick coat and dense bone structure resist frostbite and cold stress www.malazhorses.com+1
Accumulates fat in summer to sustain winter losses of up to 20% of body weight www.lrgaf.org
Temperament and Uses
Temperament: Calm, steady, intelligent, loyal, and independent www.malazhorses.com+1
Uses: General riding, sled pulling, transport, meat and milk production, breeding HorseBreedsPictures.com+1
Maintenance: Easy to care for; main risks are wolf predation and snow accumulation HorseBreedsPictures.com
Notable Facts
One of the few horse breeds that can live and graze year-round in the Arctic Circle www.lrgaf.org
Symbol of human–horse partnership in the harshest climates on Earth www.malazhorses.com
Coat can be used for clothing due to its warmth HorseBreedsPictures.com
In short, the Yakutian horse is a remarkable survivor, evolved over centuries to thrive in Siberia’s extreme cold, combining hardiness, intelligence, and resilience with a distinctive, heavily insulated appearance.

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#3215 2026-07-19 17:04:44

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Whoa, I'll have to read later. But arable land in western Canada is larger than the prairie of 500 years ago. Southern bit of the Boreal Forest was cleared for farmland. So Forest in Canada is slightly smaller than nature.

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#3216 2026-07-19 17:33:30

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Canada has 3.69 million square kilometres of forest. Assuming a hexagonal pattern with hexagons 30 metres apart centre-to-centre, will require 1,283 hexagons per square kilometre. To prevent lightning strikes, the tower must extend 30 metres taller than the trees. Trees of the Boreal Forest grow 15 to 20 metres tall (50 to 65 feet). To protect from lightning towers must be 50 metres tall. Trees of the Pacific coast can grow 70 metres tall (230 feet) or higher, but let's focus on the majority. So that's 4.73427 billion towers, each 50 metres tall. The whole tower need not be copper, but requires a copper cable heavy enough to carry a lightning strike. Then there's the steel for the tower.

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#3217 2026-07-20 07:31:37

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#3218 2026-07-20 10:52:28

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This is almost certainly fake, but it is still hilarious.

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This is the transcript of a radio conversation of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a Collision.
Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.
Americans: This is the aircraft carrier USS Lincoln, the second largest ship in the United States’ Atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that YOU change your course 15 degrees north, that’s one five degrees north, or countermeasures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

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#3219 2026-07-20 18:50:38

RobertDyck: Moderator; From: Winnipeg, Canada; Registered: 2002-08-20; Posts: 8,501; Website

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CBC: Trump threatens Canada with new 50% tariffs in latest ramp-up of trade war

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U.S. President Donald Trump signed three proclamations today that will impose 50 per cent tariffs on a swath of Canadian exports in the latest ramp-up in the president's trade war against Canada.
The tariffs are meant to offset Canada's "retaliation and discrimination" against U.S. exports, U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said.
The new rate is expected to take effect in 30 days.
Prime Minister Mark Carney issued a statement saying Canada is "ready to engage" with the U.S. to resolve the months-long trade dispute.
Meanwhile, Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Canada should retaliate, while Quebec Premier Christine Fréchette called the new threats "unjustified and concerning."

Let's review: the US created tariffs in retaliation for Canada's response, which was in retaliation for US actions. Where did it start? Trump created tariffs on Canadian goods, and threatened to make Canada the 51st state.

Please ensure the latest crap doesn't happen.

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