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#176 2024-04-14 11:43:21
- Mars_B4_Moon
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Joe Biden's Netanyahu problem could cost him the election, and America its security
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/joe-biden- … -1.6842719
February news item
Trudeau's welcome mat for immigrants wears thin amid Canada housing crunch
https://news.yahoo.com/trudeaus-welcome … 41198.html
Immigration went from historically high levels of support among Canadians in 2020 to a three-decade low at the end of 2023
Canadians Doubt Trudeau Is Best Leader to Handle a Second Trump Term
https://au.news.yahoo.com/canadians-dou … 24828.html
Toronto protesters cheer as Iran fires drones at Israel
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemi … cle-796864
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#177 2024-05-26 11:58:11
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Trudeau pushes 'Team Canada' charm offensive, touts Canada-U.S. ties in Philadelphia
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudea … -1.7209646
If Donald Trump is elected president again, will the biggest loser be Justin Trudeau or Pierre Poilievre?
https://www.thestar.com/politics/if-don … 0af58.html
Drive-by-shootings seem to be rare in Canada
was this an attempted terror attack?
Gunfire evidence found at all-girls Jewish elementary school in North York
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/05/25/ … orth-york/
Toronto police are looking for at least two suspects
seems to be becoming a more regular event in Canada a Montreal Jewish school was also struck by gunfire, Lionel Perez, a city councillor and spokesperson for the Montreal school, called it a "terrorist attack" at the time.
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#178 2026-04-12 04:04:30
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Carney speaks with Artemis II crew as Canada’s first lunar astronaut makes history
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#179 2026-05-05 08:16:16
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I am not interested in this post about contests between nations.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r … 8b0bc19dfe Quote:
3MIN AGO: Canada's MASSIVE Aluminum Discovery is Shaking Global Supply Chains!
20:103MIN AGO: Canada’s MASSIVE Aluminum Discovery Is Shaking Global Supply Chains!
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The point is that who controls this is then a "Saudi-Arabia" of Aluminum. Canada presumably, Or an offshoot of such.
Yes, it will tilt politics, but I am more interested in the technological results. But Canadian money will likely buy things from the USA and Mexico, even if they may (Likely) not like us.
But Aluminum in technology will provide conductors for power grids, and frames for solar panels, and indeed potentially mirrors for solar concentrating mirrors.
The Alumina/Aluminum will seek energy. Granted, workers are needed but it is likely that Canada can have many robots in the future.
China/East Asia, and Europe will certainly be interested.
A 2000 year supply of Aluminum could build a lot of solar power method in North America and provide a lot of grid and battery metals. (Presuming Aluminum Batteries will emerge).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N … an_deserts
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While Canada has lots of power to process Aluminum, if the price of Aluminum drops, then solar power may also be enhanced in price, making it useful to also process more Alumina into Aluminum.
This could even effect Mexico.
Granted, fusion power might prove to be more competitive, if it emerges, but the fact of lots of Aluminum says that Solar may be less costly.
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#180 2026-05-05 10:46:27
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Canadian money will likely buy things from the USA and Mexico, even if they may (Likely) not like us.
Canadians want the relationship between US and Canada to go back to what it was. Canada doesn't have a problem with American citizens. The problem is the Orange Man wants to treat Canada as a vassal state, and explicitly stated his intent to cause harm until Canada agrees to allow the US to annex Canada. The US is our neighbour, not our nation. Canada and the US are brothers, founded by the same European countries, and very similar values. The US has more influence from Spain and Spanish colonies, while Canada has more influence from France, but we're brothers. Our countries may squabble like brothers, but we are brothers. And if someone from outside the family attacks our brother, they will have to go through us! After 9/11, Canada sent JTF2 into Afghanistan. That's Canada's elite anti-terrorism military unit. It's more elite than the US Arm's Delta Force. The only US unit more elite than JTF2 is Navy Seals. We sent our best to counter those who attacked our brother. And when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, the Canadian Navy was their to rescue those stranded and supply drinking water and food. No one else sent emergency aid to the US, only Canada. The Canadian Navy was there before FEMA. Actually, FEMA was ridiculously slow to respond, raising some very awkward questions. FEMA's entire reason for being is to respond to emergencies within the US exactly like that, so WTF?
The problem is Donald Trump has created a tariff on all Canadian goods. Plus 50% tariffs on Canadian Steel and Aluminum. Plus derivative tariffs on those metals. Tariffs on the Canadian auto sector. And on forestry products. All these tariffs are in direct violation of the USMCA. Orange Man isn't even able to comply with the trade treaty that he himself wrote during his first term. When USMCA was signed, he said it was the best deal that ever was! Now he asks what idiot would sign such a deal? The answer to that question, Donald, is in the mirror.
Then there's ICE. A Canadian actress arrested, even though she had a valid work visa. The movie production required her to go to Mexico for a day trip, she was arrested when trying to return at a regular border crossing. ICE claimed they had invalidated her visa weeks earlier, but just failed to inform her. I doubt that; more likely that made up everything on the spot. Instead of telling her the visa is no longer valid so she's not allowed to enter the US, they arrested her, threw her in a cell that can only be called a dog kennel. Concrete floor, chain link fence walls and ceiling. No heat. She was kept there for 12 days. The lawyers for the film company got her out, but now she's not allowed to enter the US ever, for the rest of her life. That's not how a free country works.
Then there's the war with Iran. Trump should have consulted with US generals before attacking; they would have told him it was a bad idea. And should have consulted with allies before invading. Allies would have told him not to do it. Now Trump is upset the allies won't help with Iran. After Trump removed all support for Ukraine, he's asking why allies don't want to help with Iran?
When will the US activate the 25th Amendment? Orange Man is clearly senile. One warning: remove JD Vance first. You don't want to replace Orange Man with someone even worse. When Congress impeached Richard Nixon, they removed his Vice President first. Replaced the VP with a suitable replacement for Nixon, knowing this was part of impeaching Nixon. It's time to do it all again.
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#181 2026-05-05 10:59:58
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Well, that is rather political. I will tend to seek neutrality, as long term these factors will not be predictable.
I am interested in the existence of a Aluminum resource, and the effects on North America and the world.
I will say that the policy of Trump might reduce tariffs for companies that may seek to build in America. I interpret this as hardening the USA for a potential war economy. We have evidence that we cannot trust most of our NATO partners. If Canada goes leftist green, do we want any of our auto industry outside of our borders? The Auto industry can be harnessed for war materials in a crisis. It is not a question of anticipating a war situation soon, it is more like toing to the gym to attain fitness. If you are fit then less people will try to mess with you.
It is quite apparent that outsiders have inflated egos. Somehow Americans are ignorant hillbillies, even though they share similar genetic and cultural backgrounds.
Our understanding of the results of the conflict in the gulf is not likely to be the same as for Canada, or Germany. It seems to be said that the Germans were trying to claim that the Iranians were clobbering us.
I have very strong suspicions that retard elites are thinking in very stupid ways as to how to sculpt the future of the human race. Otherwise, why would the Germans have done so many stupid things? They are intelligent people, but their leadership keeps doing stupid things.
And the tests of NATO over both Greenland and this newest thing, clearly shows that Europeans and Canadians look down on us and think we are a servant people. Some stupid people who were useful idiots but are out of control now. All the more reason we should not trust critical Technology/Industry in the hands of the untrustworthy.
But anyway, if Canada has lots of Aluminum, some will come to the USA, either by future economic terms directly or as scrap Aluminum around the world that came for Canada. It is not a matter of love or hate, it is that the world could be flooded by Aluminum abundance.
So, concerns about the energy grids may not be as great. Both Aluminum and Carbon may help those things.
I have noted that the North American Continent has a great deal of solar potential. Fusion may be competitive though.
However, with cheap Aluminum and new Carbon technologies, and robotics, energy may be well solved for the continent either way.
I anticipate that "Active Solar" may come to dominate. Robotic Solar that can react to sun position and seasons and weather.
For instance, a humanoid robot with a power tool might be able to run a collection of solar devices to position them sequentially to an advantage.
IF robotics work out then the cost of hardware in part made of Aluminum and Carbon may deflate to the point where such elaborate equipment may be affordable.
I am presuming that whoever owns the Alumina deposit will want to sell it for money. Probably so, as whoever does not will be pushed out of the way by high powered money people, I am sure.
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#182 2026-05-05 11:45:08
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Canada got rid of Justin Trudeau. Before he was elected Prime Minister, he promised to be "fiscally responsible". He also promised that all members of his party who were supporters of Paul Martin were welcome, and that in-fighting within the party must stop. Well... as soon as he became PM, he moved his party way too far to the left. Canada has a 3rd party that is "progressive" and left-wing; it has never been elected federally, and never will. Because it's too far to the left. But Trudeau moved his party so far to the left that he competed with the NDP for who was farther left. That's why he's gone.
Now we have Mark Carney. He promised to be fiscally responsible. The whole country expected the same fiscal responsibility as Paul Martin. The problem is the rest of his cabinet are the same people as Justin Trudeau's government. Same regime. We have yet to see if he will deliver. A number of people are already skeptical.
As for attitudes: realize most Americans are not taught anything outside the US. I lived in the US for 6 months in 1996, and 10 months in 1999/2000. I felt isolated, not knowing what's going on in the rest of the world. My co-workers were one local from the area of Richmond Virginia, one guy from Georgia, one from the mid-west. Late in the project we got another guy from New Jersey. My co-workers told me most people in Richmond area had never left the county in their entire lives; certainly not the state, and definitely not the country. Miami was different, but it's own issues. Most Americans know little of anything outside the US, but expect us all to know the US very well. This can result in the "hillbilly" thing.
As for Iran: the best result Trump can hope for, is to restore the deal that Obama had already made. Oops! Trump won't like that. So how the rest of the US government do that, while spinning it in such a way that Trump claims it's all his idea?
Your last sentence is very political. No, Trump is acting as a mafia Don. Trying to extort valuable things by being a bully. Trump is arrogant, and looks down on the rest of NATO counties as if they are all vassals of the US. We are not. NATO is an alliance of equals. There have always been certain Americans who viewed themselves as elite, and tried to control NATO. The rest of NATO treated them as an annoyance that could be managed. But NATO never was a vassal of the US. And now, Russia has decided to conquer, subjugate, and annex all of eastern Europe. To conquer, subjugate, and install puppet governments in all of central Europe. And if Russia doesn't experience significant resistance, Russia will conquer all of Europe to the Strait of Gibraltar. Defending Europe from Russia is the very purpose for the existence of NATO. That's what it was founded for. Now the war has happened, it's time to act! But Trump wants to side with Russia. That would make Trump the enemy of the entire free world. Politicians in NATO countries are trying very hard to manage that: how to get Trump to defend the free world against Russia? Remember, Russia does NOT believe in right-wing values. Russia is a dictatorship, that wants total control over the world. Russia believes in central control, total government control, and wealth siphoned to benefit the elite in Russia. An Oblast in Russia is the size of a State, has the population of a State, and is the first level of government beneath the Russian federal government; but an Oblast only has as much authority as a county. And the Russian federal government dictates to all Russian corporations. Corporations are required to subsidize the Russian federal government; not just with taxes, but with loans, and direct donations. Any Russian billionaire who doesn't obey Putin as a toady will mysteriously fall out a window. The company he ran will be given to a friend of Putin, who will funnel a lot of that companies wealth to Putin personally, as well as the Russian government.
Europe is supporting Ukraine, because they know if Ukraine falls, they're next. This is what NATO is for. Trump has been unreliable. After all that, Trump is surprised when NATO countries won't help him?
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#183 2026-05-05 13:52:05
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The Aluminum thing is what I was most interested in.
But, I know about the Globe and Mail and watched Canadian TV when I was a kid. So, not total ignorant in my case.
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#184 2026-05-05 13:53:43
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The Aluminum thing is what I was most interested in.
But, I know about the Globe and Mail and watched Canadian TV when I was a kid. So, not total ignorant in my case.
Quote the Robert:
As for Iran: the best result Trump can hope for, is to restore the deal that Obama had already made. Oops! Trump won't like that. So how the rest of the US government do that, while spinning it in such a way that Trump claims it's all his idea?
Actually, I think we have had an unexpected windfall, Very happy. It turns out that Ukraine has figured out how to deal with Russia-Iran-China warfare. They have the tools and the Gulf Arabs have money. We also get the methods. I felt guilty putting the Ukrainians up against the Russians in a slaughterhouse, but we can't turn that down.
As for your Europeans, they are suspected of becoming Fascist again. The NAZI idea was that endless killing was needed to purify the human race of weaklings. The import of immigrates is so that that killing can be facilitated at some point. The Elites think they can hide in their places in mountains. The Globalists want to get the population of the planet down to 1 or 2 billion. The Elites do not particularly belong to any culture such as European or Canadian. And some are converts to alien religions. They have no intentions that are good.
The Iranians are not stupid people. We were stupid when we damaged Iraq and handed it to the Iranians. I believe the British orchestrated that for us. The game is to separate what people want from the people who want it and then to make money as the middle men. As example during the Biden administration the import of oil from the ME. was favored. We have quite a few of the creeps in our country unfortunately.
Another favor we have gained is that we are a safer provider of Oil and Natural Gas than the Persian/Arabian gulf countries.
I expect that Iran will be forced to give up its enriched nuclear materials, and the Gulf Countries will keep the Ukraine on hire to help them against the Shia factors. Europe may involve themselves belatedly, for the reason to have some influence as well.
We the People might even consider the Russians as Allies, but I don't want to betray the Ukraine any more than it has been betrayed by the Europeans.
The Russians have some troubles and it is not clear that they are at liberty to push harder. But if too provoked they also might be pushed into something that is not needed.
This future has good potentials for us. No guarantees, but potentials.
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#185 Yesterday 09:00:47
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It is news to me that the UK started the 2003 Iraq war. If memory serves, GW Bush made the decision to invade Iraq and depose Saddam Hussein. There were official reasons given about human rights violations, WMDs, etc. But at the time, the US was importing most of its oil and there were powerful interests in the Bush administration that wanted Iraq out of OPEC and open to development by US based oil companies. Britain ended up joining the conflict after Bush asked Blair whose side he wanted to be on when the oil started to run out. There was ĺarge scale opposition to British involvement at every political level in the UK at the time. Blair basically burned his whole career by allying himself with Bush and committing the UK's mediocre military to the war.
The idea that the UK somehow pushed the US into the war just doesn't wash. It was more the other way round, but I don't believe that Bush forced Blair to do anything. It is entirely possible that both men were under the influence of the same deepstate lobbyists. But this is not specifically a British problem. Youtube hosts a lot of conspiracy theorists that talk all kinds of crazy. Some of what they say is true, a lot of it isn't. Seperating truth from tin foil hat nonsense isn't always easy. It requires background knowledge that not everyone has. The worst lies contain just enough truth to make them sound credible.
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#186 Yesterday 09:42:23
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deepstate lobbyists
I do apologize, you are seeming to be more correct.
City of London is said by some to be at the heart of the global game. (Promethean Actions). https://www.prometheanaction.com/
I am still considering how much I align with the Promethean Action people.
The seeds of my own suspicions are deeper in time than my exposure to them however.
It is my observation that the Romans were unable to do successful conquest in northern-more regions.
Their method of plunder was to decapitate the rulers of agricultural successful areas and make them provinces and then tax them. I begin to think that that is why they only went so far north. The Greeks in the Black Sea, penetrated further into Eurasia as I think the North of the Black Sea will support agricultural abundance.
The Romans withdrew from Britain as it was not paying off. Very little of the Roman genome remains now it seems. But the South of the island did support an agricultural abundance for the local rising verbal and violent thug class that became the upper classes.
They managed to pinch off a piece of the Roman Catholic Church and own it.
Anglicans were allowed in the Colleges, where dead languages were the methods of establishing worth.
Other sects were generally excluded, and I think did not have access to land estates and servants.
So, they started the Industrial Revolution. I looked it up and cities like Lakinshire, Derryshire, Shoropshire, and Manchester were mentioned.
The Southern Elites did not like industry as it was coal and dirty. I am sure the old money did not like the new money.
The North/South divide continued in the USA. Strangely though English to the North and Scots Irish to the South.
The South (East) of course adopted plantations and the North was not as much like that.
The South East of the continent appealed more to the Elites of the UK and France.
Then you have the East India Company and the Empire. In the American Civil war the UK and France were tempted to join on the side of the Confederacy. But anti-slavery sentiments in the UK and the Russian Fleet stationed on the East Coast (By Lincoln) discouraged them.
The post Civil war rise of Industrialism of course was not liked by the B. Empire. It is to be expected.
When the USA began to run short of Oil, the holders of Oil then saw their chance to choke America in the 70's and beyond.
As I understand it the IRGC? Has very large holdings of real estate around London. Some say that the fall of the Shaw of Iron was orchestrated by the British>CIA.
At any rate we see that the USA is enjoying Oil from various sources now. And screwing with Lloyds of London in the Persian Gulf.
The purpose of Iran is to raise the price of oil, but that is now benefiting America, (And Canada and Venezuela, etc.).
Yes, we Americans were stupid, but then people like me do not play at the high table at all. We are supposed to be stupid.
And the addition of Iraq to Iran's power to the instability equation would make it more possible for terrorism to be promoted, to raise the price of oil for OPEC from time to time. Lloyds if London to make more money then.
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In the Biden Administration we see the attempt with some success to put America back on OPEC oil imports.
The hatred of fracking, in my opinion was generated by an international desire to keep deindustrializing America. The Oil producers would want American power to only be used to protect them. In the case of Russia fracking was said to be immoral.
The collaboration of the remnants of Communism and Islam have a like desire to reduce American industry and yet to keep money flowing from a dying America.
The leftist Greens in Europe have unfortunately been able to get a fair amount of this done for Europe.
The intention from the Globalist Elites is suspected to be to try to get a nuclear war going, perhaps between the USA and Russia/China, to reduce the population and to get their power damaged.
Although perhaps not intentional, it is possible that Chernobyl and Fukushima were experiments to see how much nuclear damage can be tolerated. (Some paranoia there, I admit).
But you might think that pandered elites, have an extremely high idea of their own intelligence and worth. They might think they want that world where only 1 billion to 2 billion people are left over. The worst damage to the USA, Russia, and China.
They could weather the war in their fancy bunkers in the Mountains of Switzerland perhaps, and other refuges.
They very radioactive parts can be turned into parks, reserves, or where the weaklings can be pushed to.
So, no, it is not the UK only, but indeed parts of the USA and many other global players may be implicated.
You should be careful as some of those people that are being imported into the UK and Canada may be intended for doing ethnic cleansings of "Indigenous" people who cause trouble.
The Evil Empire whatever you call it seems to exist.
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I am ready to change my mind by better evidence, but for now this is my evaluation of reality.
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A little more to add. What happens to a country like Germany who removes their nuclear reactors? Their reactors do not distribute radiation to Germany.
Paranoid? The poor Germany poor but less radioactive than many places. Meanwhile in Switzerland...............Party Time.
In war time, some reactors would be targeted, and some might just malfunction in the disruption.
It would make a good novel, I think.
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