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#26 Today 11:36:49

SpaceNut
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Re: Designing insitu Mars equipment garage

A rail would need to be shipped and a open door does not keep dirt or dust out which keep risk increasing not decreasing.

That is why you must plan for the actions to be under taken on mars.

Any insitu must keep in mind the delivery of all things we need to make any construction possible.

tahanson43206 wrote:

Construction of components to make doors, shelves, storage lockers and other components from local resources will be ** much ** more challenging.

All those things are part of outfitting plan of any structure that mars builds and they can come out of the starship's raw plates, installed stuff for human support. We must recycle what we go with and repurpose these materials. Sheet metal building is a nothing from raw sheets.

Things needed to repurpose is a cutting tools, welding equipment, bending tables or breaks, misc hardware if we make holes and drilling stuff.

Even I have made with less sheet metal to fix parts of my car....when its rusted through,

My very first post was

Structure type is not defined as we must know what type of early equipment type as well as the fuels that they will need to make use of.  It is suggested to be a separate attached system with possible machine shop capability.

So design was not a determined for path until items that will go in the garage are known.

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#27 Today 12:21:06

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Re: Designing insitu Mars equipment garage

Here is an intrusion that you may ignore, as I do not wish to make the members unhappy: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 90#p236790

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Is it possible that the root of political science claims is to produce white collar jobs for people who paid for an education and do not want a real job?

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#28 Today 13:05:40

tahanson43206
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Re: Designing insitu Mars equipment garage

For SpaceNut ... in situ means ** nothing ** is imported.

Everything has to be made from materials made on site.

Those were the words you used in the topic title.

If you meant something else now is a bit late to be telling us.

Please ask your AI friend what in situ means, and let us know.

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#29 Today 14:01:32

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Re: Designing insitu Mars equipment garage

What AI thinks

In-situ (Latin for "on-site" or "in its original place") in the context of Mars construction refers to the practice of using local Martian resources, rather than transporting all materials and equipment from Earth. This is officially called In-Situ Resource Utilization (ISRU). 

The core concept is "living off the land" to drastically reduce the enormous cost and logistical challenge of sending supplies across vast distances from Earth.

The idea that you would have no equipment at all is generally not feasible; some minimal, specialized equipment and robotic systems would be sent from Earth to act as the initial "factories" and "builders". How ISRU Addresses the "No Equipment" Constraint (Relatively) The goal is to minimize the mass and volume of material that must be launched from Earth, not to eliminate equipment entirely. Specialized, compact, and often autonomous, equipment would be sent first to leverage local materials.

The strategy involves: Sending minimal, critical machinery: Instead of sending heavy raw materials like concrete or steel beams, lightweight robotic equipment, 3D printers, and processing hardware are sent.

Utilizing local materials: The robots would use abundant Martian resources, primarily the soil (regolith) and atmosphere, to produce usable products.

Automated construction: The construction process would likely be managed by autonomous or semi-autonomous robots before humans arrive, allowing for the creation of habitats and infrastructure in advance. 

Examples of In-Situ Resources for Construction With specialized equipment,
Mars offers several resources: Regolith (Martian soil): This can be used as a primary building material. Processes like sintering (fusing with heat) or mixing with binding agents (like an epoxy or sulfur) can create bricks, ceramics, and concrete-like structures for radiation shielding and general construction..
 

Water ice: Found below the surface, water is a critical resource. Once extracted, it can be used for life support (drinking water, growing food), split into hydrogen and oxygen (for breathing air and rocket propellant), or used in industrial processes.Atmospheric \(\text{CO}_{2}\): The Martian atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide. Equipment like the MOXIE experiment on the Perseverance rover can extract oxygen from the atmosphere for life support and as an oxidizer for rocket fuel.

Basalt: Basaltic rocks are abundant and can be processed into glass or glass fibers, which have good insulating properties and can be used for construction. Essentially, "in-situ construction" is the practice of building with what you have on Mars, which is crucial for long-term sustainability and survival when resupply from Earth is nearly impossible

As you can see you must plan resources tto utilize as well.

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