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#3001 2025-07-16 19:44:06
- kbd512
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Re: Politics
RobertDyck,
How else do you provide inter-generational prosperity and social mobility to your own people without locally making the things they use every day?
That's not a rhetorical question. It's a serious question that deserves a thoughtful answer. You're the one who has sought political power. I would think you would have answers to this type of question, because people who would vote for you surely would want to know.
What's your counter-proposal?
List alternatives that you think would make a genuine difference in the lives of people living here who are stuck on the bottom 50% to 70% of the rungs of the socioeconomic ladder. I'm not talking about a day, week, month, or even a year. I'm talking about lifetimes. If you've never thought about this before, then maybe you should.
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#3002 2025-07-18 00:10:41
- Calliban
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Re: Politics
The Chinese economy is experiencing severe deflation.
https://youtu.be/jrBmFumdjD8
Its domestic market is shrinking due to shrinking consumer demand. Its foreign market is shrinking due to tarrifs.
"Plan and prepare for every possibility, and you will never act. It is nobler to have courage as we stumble into half the things we fear than to analyse every possible obstacle and begin nothing. Great things are achieved by embracing great dangers."
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#3003 2025-07-18 11:40:09
- Void
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Re: Politics
I guess it was inevitable. They expanded their population with the expectation that being to center of reality they could conquer the world as they had conquered their local surroundings. Then as they could not do such a conquest due to the USSR and the USA and others, they had to stifle reproduction or have a very bad social crash due to lack of resources.
As others have pointed out, their demographics are not very good.
My suspicion is that they simply do not have a workable notion of how to deal with the "Other". They could not conceive of anything other than communities that genocide each other. But they do not have the means to do those conquests.
America stretched between the Latin and the China appears to have been able to find a way to weave these things into a social fabric. This involves a federal hierarchy and local communities where a balance of power is maintained.
Canada is struggling with this now, as the East Complex is serving as a top/down dominator by way of excessive hierarchy, and they wish to maintain western Canada as a servant entity. The Latin/True Asian.
I need to define True Asian. It is not so much India to begin with and certainly not Arabs. Iran strangely enough is what I consider "True Asian, as is China, and under certain methods of definition also Russia.
I also include the Amerindians' and Innuit, and perhaps even somehow Polynesians imprints in parts of America. I believe that contact with these peoples helped jolt Latin Europe out of a low state of being. This was intentionally incorporated into the USA formulation as well. The sad nature of the cultural clash was the price for that.
The division in the west now, I fell is that the Latin centered complex in Europe, is feeling the desire to rotate back to feudalism. America wants nothing to do with that. But for the west, perhaps one of these two will succeeded. Therefore, I am not too fervent a missionary to reform the European "Latins". Perhaps neither of these will succeed, or both will or one will.
I will make the point that America seems to be one of the epicenters of our current reality with India on the other side of it, as a counterweight.
I am afraid that it may be that China must endure what it will, due to not being able to work with half of the world.
America has chances at all the parts of the world but needs to provide a "Cell Wall" in order to conduct its internal processes without being damaged too much by outside forces. One thing we must guard against is archaic domination.
Past tense cultures should not be allowed to vandalize western cultures and write their own names over the successful cultures of the west, and also true East Asians, using lies as I believe they have done in the past, taking credit for the inventions of the cultures that they have molested. And yes, I do indicate the Middle East.
I will leave there as some things I might say may tempt dummies to engage in a futile dispute with this situation of order that is developing.
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