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kbd512 · 2024-11-08 01:46:37

US 2024 Elections Results Updates

House Elections Results
Republicans secured 211 seats.
Democrats secured 199 seats.

Void · 2024-11-08 07:46:59

So, I am thinking this will make it harder for them to harass the Executive Branch from Congress. I prefer not to have time wasted in that way with the left "Showboating".

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Calliban · 2024-11-08 08:35:18

kbd512 wrote:

US 2024 Elections Results Updates
House Elections Results
Republicans secured 211 seats.
Democrats secured 199 seats.

The republicans need 7 more seats for outright control. Looking at the number of undeclared seats, they are ahead in enough of them that they will probably reach and narrowly surpass 218. That will make it much easier to pass new legislation.
https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2024/ … ults/house

kbd512 · 2024-11-08 11:04:51

President-elect Trump should focus exclusively on:

1. Fixing the American economic issues related to energy extraction and domestic manufacturing
2. Border control and illegal immigration issue allowing violent criminals to enter America and prey upon Americans and other illegals
3. Foreign wars and antagonistic relationships with our adversaries, namely China, Russia, and Iran

As someone who actually voted for President-elect Trump, I listened intently when he promised to do those three things and nothing else, in his victory speech. I expect him to remain faithful to his word, or he no longer has my support. The Republican Party only has the most tenuous of support from me, presuming they work with President-elect Trump to deliver on his promises. If the man I voted for does those things and nothing else, then his presidency will be a breath of fresh air when compared to the petty self-serving behavior of President Biden's administration.

I am completely onboard with America focusing on fixing our own numerous and varied domestic problems, which have strained ordinary Americans to the breaking point. Specifically, I want domestic energy and manufacturing output to increase to increase wages, and to help pay down our absurd level of national debt.

I am completely onboard with America refraining from all forms of military adventurism. I want a strong military with thorough realistic training, appropriate tools, and no attempt to "gold plate" our military equipment or capabilities. I do not want our military used to preemptively attack other nations, even if I vehemently disagree with what they're doing. I do not want our intelligence agencies instigating foreign wars. I do not want our military used to support the foreign economic interests of businesses. America should never go to war because some yahoos in an intelligence agency are having a "war fantasy" or XYZ Corporation stands to make a handsome profit from that war.

I am NOT onboard with any ill-advised attempts at "revenge" against political opponents, as the Democrats have engaged in since President Trump was elected in 2016.

I am NOT onboard with indiscriminately bombing the piss out of Palestinian civilians who have guns pointed at them from both Hamas or Hezbollah or Iranian terrorists and Israeli troops. I DO support Israel's right to exist, right to defend their borders, and right to kill all murdering invaders.

I am NOT onboard with spending endless money on killing Russians. I DO support Ukraine's right to exist, right to defend their borders, and right to kill all murdering invaders. I would like them to focus on driving the Russians out of Ukraine, rather than attacking and invading Russia. President Zelensky has said he wants all territory taken from Ukraine, returned to Ukraine. Great. I agree with that 100%, so I would like him to focus on doing that. Invading Russia is not helping to drive the Russians out of Ukraine. It is weakening Ukraine's ability to fight against Russian troops inside Ukraine, because that's how basic math and logic works.

As allies, if Israel or Ukraine or Taiwan or South Korea need to be defended against foreign aggressors, then we send our own military, our own sons and daughters, to fight on their behalf. We articulate why it's necessary to do so to the American people. We commit ourselves to doing only that which is necessary and justifiable. That is what a true ally would do to support their allies. If our allies no longer wish to have American troops on their soil, or refuse to spend agreed upon money for their own defense, then we leave. We don't dictate policy to them, but we both honor the terms of our agreements, or we're no longer behaving as good allies.

Finally, I want American citizens prioritized over immigrants, especially illegal immigrants. All the foreign criminals allowed to pour into America because the officials from President Biden's administration, specifically Secretary Mayorkas, couldn't be bothered to check IDs at the border, is completely unforgivable. Democrats seem to think any immigration laws they disagree with are mere suggestions, rather than codified law. Congress doesn't make suggestions. Congress makes law. The majority of Americans disagree with the Democrats on this point. We would prefer that our elected officials and their political appointees either enforce our laws or work with Congress to change the laws if they think our existing immigration laws are unfair or unenforceable. Maybe our immigration laws could be better, but since we've never made any serious attempts to improve them, we don't actually know, because we haven't tried.

Terraformer · 2024-11-08 13:45:56

I wonder if an amnesty bill could get through Congress with the proviso that anyone who takes advantage of it will be barred from American citizenship - - if they want a pathway to citizenship, they have to leave the country and reenter legally. Provides amnesty whilst still providing some kind of consequence for illegal immigration.

kbd512 · 2024-11-08 18:35:10

In the two days since President-elect Trump was elected as President, the following events have taken place:

1. Mexico's President has announced that she's going to start turning back the migrant caravans and force them to remain in place and wait their turn to immigrate into America the legal way.

2. Palestine's Hamas has requested an end to the war with Israel.

3. Yemen's Houthis have requested a cease fire.

4. Russia's President has requested a meeting with President-elect Trump to end the war in Ukraine.

5. Steve Madden executives have announced plans to cut manufacturing in China by half in the coming months, and will discuss making their apparel and fashion accessories in America.

6. Democrats in New York and California have announced that they intend to continue the legal warfare against President Trump while the US Department of Justice has been directed to halt all legal actions against the President-elect.

I sure hope all that suffering, death, and destruction to enrich the privileged few was worth it.

RobertDyck · 2024-11-09 00:14:12

That's a one-sided and extreme opinion. Yes, the attack of October 7 was horrible. It doesn't justify genocide. Israel's reaction is disproportionate. Killing civilians in Gaza cannot be justified simply because some stupid extremists did something bad. Yes, very bad.

Never forget the video of a man speaking Russian leading Hamas terrorist through the fence on October 7. I believe that man was Wagner Group. Russia did this deliberately as a distraction from the war in Ukraine. How many people died for a distraction? And Israel further escalated by attacking Lebanon. Don't try to justify it, I won't listen. Israel's reaction has been eztreme!

The Gaza Strip was supposed to be the nation of Palestine a very long time ago. Israel has treated it as Israeli territory and occupied it for a very long time. This just perpetuates animosity.

RobertDyck · 2024-11-09 00:31:48

Russia's President Putin has said many times the only way to end the war is capitulation. Putin not only demanded keeping all the land his army took by force, killing hundreds of thousands, he also demanded Ukraine surrender the remaining portions of the oblasts that Russia partially occupies. Putin is a bully and insane.

We saw with Chechnya what Putin will do. If Russia keeps any portion of Ukraine, Russia will just train more soldiers, build more weapons and ammunition, then attack again. That's not an end. Furthermore if Russia takes Ukraine they'll attack Poland and the Baltic states next. Russia has already said so. The only way to prevent World War 3 is to stop Russia in Ukraine.

Terms of ending the war:
- Russia gets all troops out of Ukraine. 1991 borders
- Russia returns all Ukrainian children they abducted
- Ukraine joins NATO as a full member
- Ukraine joins EU
- Russia will never be allowed navy bases in Crimea ever again
- only AFTER all this will Ukraine withdraw troops from Kursk

Points for negotiation:
- Russia pays for reconstruction in Ukraine
- Russian generals and officials responsible for this war surrender to Ukraine for prosecution
- releasing frozen bank accounts and frozen assets (interest has already been seized)
- lifting sanctions on Russia
- NATO agrees to never place any nuclear weapons in Ukraine (eg missiles with nuclear warheads aimed at Moscow)

kbd512 · 2024-11-10 15:41:43

I think this headline speaks for itself:

CNN Politics - FEMA employee fired after telling relief team to skip houses with Trump signs following Florida hurricane

A Federal Emergency Management Agency employee has been fired after they advised their disaster relief team to avoid homes with signs supporting former President Donald Trump while canvassing in Florida in the aftermath of Hurricane Milton, the agency’s administrator said Saturday.
FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell called the actions of the employee "reprehensible" and said they have been terminated from their role.

These political clowns actually wrote in their official government records, "Trump sign, no entry per leadership. Implement best practices, avoid homes advertising Trump."

FEMA states that this incident in Florida is believed to be an isolated incident, but weaponization of politics aptly explains why FEMA and local officials did not help residents living in Appalachia in the wake of Hurricane Helene, and actively prevented private citizens from other parts of the country from bringing in disaster relief supplies (food, bottled water, and blankets) using personal helicopters and high water pickup trucks, as well as threatening these volunteers with arrest if they continued helping those living there. Thankfully, some of these civilian first responders ignored the government's threats to arrest them and continued bringing in supplies.

I would opine that perhaps "FEMA" ("Federal Emergency Management Agency") should change it's name to "DEMA" ("Democrat Emergency Management Agency") if those working within FEMA only wish to provide disaster relief to Democrats, and that funding "DEMA" be considered optional for all Republicans. Maybe Elon Musk's new Government Efficiency Agency can cut FEMA's funding to only whatever is required to serve Democrats. Assuming Democrats don't attempt to arrest civilians providing disaster relief, Republicans can rely upon private citizens with religious core values (love for your fellow citizens, willingness to serve and to sacrifice for others, and the ability to look past political beliefs) to provide disaster relief whilst Democrats are free to spend money on other Democrats, or not, however they see fit.

This is exactly what I meant when I admonished Democrats to "stop pouring acid on the fabric of society". There can be no trust between government and the citizenry if those in government are using the power of government as a cudgel against their political opponents. Either tell your fellow Democrats to cut this crap out, or expect big changes to government in the near future. If half of the people in government only want government to serve those aligned with their partisan politics, then that is what government will become. At that point, you will no longer have the consent of the governed, for at least half the population. Since all legitimate forms of government are derived from the consent of the governed, we will rapidly cease to have a functioning government.

Terraformer · 2024-11-10 17:07:52

Has California finished counting ballots yet? It's coming up on a week now. Past halfway. Should have been finished days ago. Sunderland's counters would commit seppuko if they were this tardy.

RobertDyck · 2024-11-10 17:08:43

How long after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 before a response from FEMA? The Canadian Navy sent several ships with helicopters, water desalination systems, emergency rations, etc. One ship had a hospital. For a long time the only emergency relief was from the Canadian Navy. Again, how long before FEMA showed up? What is the government paying FEMA for?

kbd512 · Today 00:23:45

US 2024 Elections Results Updates

House Elections Results
Republicans secured 218 seats!

For whatever reason, The Associated Press is still behind the power curve in timely reporting of results, but Reuters, The Hill, and a handful of other media agencies are now reporting that the Republican Party has secured 218 seats in the House.

270towin.com - Republicans Retain House Majority - By 270toWin Staff - November 11, 2024, 8:05 PM ET

Monday evening, AZ-06 was called for Republican Juan Ciscomani, who was reelected for a second term. That win gives the GOP 218 seats, ensuring they will retain their majority when the 119th Congress begins in January.
Earlier in the day, CO-08 was called for Republican Gabe Evans, who defeated freshman Democrat Yadira Caraveo.
Eight House races remain uncalled. Seven are in California, one in Alaska.
In California, Tuesday is the final day for ballots to arrive and be counted, assuming they were postmarked by Election Day. The state is very slow at counting (this is not new), so it is unclear when those races will be called.
In Alaska, there probably won't be a race call until the ranked choice tabulation on November 20.

The Republicans appear to have won the Presidency, the Senate, the House, and the popular vote.

Calliban · Today 03:47:46

You can track the real time tally here.
https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2024/ … ults/house

At time of writing the Reps have 214. They are ahead in enough remaining seats that they will almost certainly reach and probably surpass 218.

It will be interesting to see what a Trump-Musk partnership will mean for Mars. Especially with the Reps controlling both houses. I wish we had a leader like Trump in the UK.

kbd512 · Today 09:15:47

Calliban,

I'm going off of reporting from various left and right foreign and domestic media reports that they're not going to certify election results until the end of this week, but that the Republicans have now gained the votes to secure 219 seats and the Democrats gained or likely will gain the votes required to secure 213 seats. By current vote tally, Republicans have 219 seats and Democrats have 210 seats. The 3 seat discrepancy is expected to go to the Democrat candidates.

If that changes between now and the end of the week, I'll add an update. The remaining races are either too close to call or contested by the candidates because the results are close enough to request recounts. That means there will be a handful of races which require recounts, but 432 of 435 seats appear to be accounted for at the time I wrote my last post. If nothing unusual happens between now and then, the most probable makeup of the House of Congress going into 2025, will include 219 Republicans and 213 Democrats.

"270toWin" reports the results before they're certified. The Associated Press remains the official reporter of election results, but again, they typically only report results after results are certified. Based purely on counted votes and majorities, the 219 Republicans and 213 Democrats appears to be the most probable outcome.

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