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#2426 2024-10-08 10:03:48

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/21 Saturday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/08 Tuesday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 341.7 Sol Number: 634  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037634
Solar Longitude: 341.1 Sol Number: 633  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037633
Solar Longitude: 340.6 Sol Number: 632  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037632
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,281,024 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195497 <= +8146 km/hour at 12 on 10/08 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,085,528 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195504 <= +8146 km/hour at 12 on 10/07 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   225,890,024 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195491 <= +8145 km/hour at 12 on 10/06 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Galaxy above path PGC 1678147 – RA 07h 21m 11.7s -
UGC 3806 07h 20m 22.4s – Day 0 – Day 1 – still ahead of Mars -
TYC 1909-533-1 RA 07h 17m 36.4s – Day 0 – Day 1 Just past 6.5 hours marker – Day 2 right on the edge of the view … last seconds for 533
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/08 177,637,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/07 178,554,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/06 179,798,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 634 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 634  is Saturday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 594 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 630 October 3rd
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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#2427 2024-10-09 06:01:07

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

Greenwich, UK 10/09/2024, 13:00:00 Europe/London << 12:00:00 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 23m 24.9s Dec +22° 47' 49.4" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.30 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 226,476,487 km [24.3 km/s]
Earth Dist: 176,756,428 km [21.3 km/s]


Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
342.2
Sol number:   
635

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#2428 2024-10-09 09:32:21

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/22 Sunday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/09 Wednesday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 342.2 Sol Number: 635  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037635
Solar Longitude: 341.7 Sol Number: 634  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037634
Solar Longitude: 341.1 Sol Number: 633  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037633
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,476,487 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195463 <= +8144 km/hour at 12 on 10/09 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,281,024 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195497 <= +8146 km/hour at 12 on 10/08 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,085,528 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195504 <= +8146 km/hour at 12 on 10/07 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Galaxy just above path PGC 1676753 RA 07h 24m 21.1s – Day 0 -
PGC 1678147 – RA 07h 21m 11.7s -  Day 0 – Day 1 – above 13 hours past marker
UGC 3806 07h 20m 22.4s – Day 0 – Day 1 – still ahead of Mars -  Day 2 right on the edge of the view – last seconds for 3806
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/09 176,602,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/08 177,637,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/07 178,554,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 635 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 635  is Sunday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 594 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 630 October 3rd
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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#2429 2024-10-10 06:04:26

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update ...

Greenwich, UK 10/10/2024, 13:00:02 Europe/London << 12:00:02 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 25m 31.3s Dec +22° 45' 10.5" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.29 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 226,671,918 km [24.3 km/s]
Earth Dist: 175,702,725 km [21.1 km/s]


Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
342.7
Sol number:   
636

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#2430 2024-10-10 13:05:37

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/23 Monday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/10 Thursday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 342.7 Sol Number: 636  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037636
Solar Longitude: 342.2 Sol Number: 635  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037635
Solar Longitude: 341.7 Sol Number: 634  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037634
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,671,918 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195431 <= +8143 km/hour at 12 on 10/10 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,476,487 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195463 <= +8144 km/hour at 12 on 10/09 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,281,024 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195497 <= +8146 km/hour at 12 on 10/08 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Star in path: TYC 1910-1441-1 RA 07h 26m 57.7s – Day 0
PGC 1676753 RA 07h 24m 21.1s – Day 0 – Day 1 just past Mars
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/10 175,397,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/09 176,602,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/08 177,637,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 636 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 636  is Monday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 594 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 630 October 3rd
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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tahanson43206
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Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update


Greenwich, UK 10/11/2024, 13:00:03 Europe/London << 12:00:03 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 27m 36.2s Dec +22° 42' 28.5" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.29 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 226,867,289 km [24.2 km/s]
Earth Dist: 174,645,846 km [20.9 km/s]

Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
343.3
Sol number:   
637

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#2432 2024-10-11 07:56:22

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/24 Tuesday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/11 Friday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 343.3 Sol Number: 637  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037637
Solar Longitude: 342.7 Sol Number: 636  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037636
Solar Longitude: 342.2 Sol Number: 635  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037635
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,867,289 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195371 <= +8140 km/hour at 12 on 10/11 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,671,918 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195431 <= +8143 km/hour at 12 on 10/10 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,476,487 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195463 <= +8144 km/hour at 12 on 10/09 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: microboomer: HIP 36279 RA 07h 28m 08.1s – Day 0 -
TYC 1910-1441-1 RA 07h 26m 57.7s – Day 0  - Day 1 6.5 hours ahead of Mars -
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/11 174,570,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/10 175,397,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/09 176,602,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 637 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 637  is Tuesday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 594 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 630 October 3rd
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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#2433 2024-10-12 06:01:56

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

Greenwich, UK 10/12/2024, 13:00:00 Europe/London << 12:00:00 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 29m 40.2s Dec +22° 39' 45.0" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.25 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 227,062,577 km [24.2 km/s]
Earth Dist: 173,585,941 km [20.7 km/s]


Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
343.8
Sol number:   
638

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#2434 2024-10-12 10:11:14

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/25 Wednesday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))
One day note- the rate of forward progress of Mars in it's orbit passed through zero – see Distance to Sun section
Today on Earth: 2024/10/12 Saturday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 343.8 Sol Number: 638  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037638
Solar Longitude: 343.3 Sol Number: 637  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037637
Solar Longitude: 342.7 Sol Number: 636  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037636
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,062,577 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195288 <= +8137 km/hour at 12 on 10/12 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,867,289 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195371 <= +8140 km/hour at 12 on 10/11 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,671,918 km [24.3 km/s] Difference is +195431 <= +8143 km/hour at 12 on 10/10 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Stars above and below path: TYC 1910-490-1 and 1910-1792-1 – To left of PGC 1676738 – RA 07h 29m 44.6s – Day 0
HIP 36279 RA 07h 28m 08.1s – Day 0 - - Day 1 just past and below Mars
TYC 1910-1441-1 RA 07h 26m 57.7s – Day 0  - Day 1 6.5 hours ahead of Mars – Day 2 just past 14 hours marker
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/12 173,420,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/11 174,570,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/10 175,397,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 638 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 638  is Wednesday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 594 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 630 October 3rd
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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#2435 2024-10-13 06:01:47

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

Greenwich, UK 10/13/2024, 13:00:00 Europe/London << 12:00:00 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 31m 43.1s Dec +22° 36' 59.2" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.24 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 227,257,779 km [24.2 km/s]
Earth Dist: 172,523,029 km [20.5 km/s]

>
Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
344.3
Sol number:   
639

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tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/26 Thursday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/13 Sunday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 344.2 Sol Number: 639  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037639
Solar Longitude: 343.8 Sol Number: 638  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037638
Solar Longitude: 343.3 Sol Number: 637  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037637
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,257,779 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195202 <= +8133 km/hour at 12 on 10/13 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,062,577 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195288 <= +8137 km/hour at 12 on 10/12 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   226,867,289 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195371 <= +8140 km/hour at 12 on 10/11 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Stars above and below path: TYC 1911-1402 and 1825 – RA 07h 32m 37.4s – Day 0 -
TYC 1910-490-1 and 1910-1792-1 – To left of PGC 1676738 – RA 07h 29m 44.6s – Day 0 – Day 1 Past Mars
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/13 172,430,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/12 173,420,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/11 174,570,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 639 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 639  is Thursday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 594 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 630 October 3rd
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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#2437 2024-10-14 06:02:20

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place Holder for today's Calendar update:

Greenwich, UK 10/14/2024, 13:00:20 Europe/London
Object: Mars   (open sky map) << 12:00:20 UTC
RA 07h 33m 44.6s Dec +22° 34' 11.1" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.24 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 227,452,919 km [24.2 km/s]
Earth Dist: 171,456,978 km [20.3 km/s]


Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
344.8
Sol number:   
640

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#2438 2024-10-14 11:16:22

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/27 Friday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/14 Monday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 344.8 Sol Number: 640  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037640
Solar Longitude: 344.3 Sol Number: 639  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037639
Solar Longitude: 343.8 Sol Number: 638  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037638
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,452,919 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195140 <= +8131 km/hour at 12 on 10/14 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,257,779 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195202 <= +8133 km/hour at 12 on 10/13 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,062,577 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195288 <= +8137 km/hour at 12 on 10/12 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Galaxy below path PGC 3089750 RA 07h 34m 12.8s – Day 0 -
TYC 1911-1402 and 1825 – RA 07h 32m 37.4s – Day 0 – Day 1 just past Mars
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/14 171,226,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/13 172,430,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/12 173,420,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 640 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 640  is Friday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 630 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 667
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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#2439 2024-10-15 06:03:10

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

Greenwich, UK 10/15/2024, 13:00:00 Europe/London << 12:00:00 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 35m 44.5s Dec +22° 31' 21.0" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.23 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 227,647,848 km [24.2 km/s]
Earth Dist: 170,388,592 km [20.2 km/s]

Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
345.4
Sol number:   
641

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#2440 2024-10-15 09:35:24

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/23/28 Saturday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))
Last day of Month 23
Today on Earth: 2024/10/15 Tuesday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 345.4 Sol Number: 641  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037641
Solar Longitude: 344.8 Sol Number: 640  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037640
Solar Longitude: 344.3 Sol Number: 639  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037639
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,647,848 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +194929 <= +8122 km/hour at 12 on 10/15 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,452,919 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195140 <= +8131 km/hour at 12 on 10/14 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,257,779 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195202 <= +8133 km/hour at 12 on 10/13 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Star below path TYC 1373-1085-1 RA 07h 36m 27.8s – Day 0 -
PGC 3089750 RA 07h 34m 12.8s – Day 0 – Day 1 just past Mars
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/15 170,234,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/14 171,226,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/13 172,430,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 641 is in Month 23 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  23 extends from Sol 614 through 641. <<== There are 28 days in Month 23. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 641  is Saturday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 630 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 667
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 23 of 24: <<== Fifth month of Quarter 4

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#2441 2024-10-16 06:02:33

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

Greenwich, UK 10/16/2024, 13:00:09 Europe/London << 12:00:09 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 37m 43.4s Dec +22° 28' 29.4" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.22 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 227,842,701 km [24.1 km/s]
Earth Dist: 169,317,105 km [20.0 km/s]


Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
345.9
Sol number:   
642

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#2442 2024-10-16 10:30:38

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/24/01 Sunday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))
First day of Month 24
Today on Earth: 2024/10/16 Wednesday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 345.9 Sol Number: 642  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037642
Solar Longitude: 345.4 Sol Number: 641  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037641
Solar Longitude: 344.8 Sol Number: 640  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037640
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,842,701 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194853 <= +8118 km/hour at 12 on 10/16 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,647,848 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +194929 <= +8122 km/hour at 12 on 10/15 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,452,919 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +195140 <= +8131 km/hour at 12 on 10/14 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: micro-boomer HIP 37121 RA 07h 37m 40.2s – Day 0 -
TYC 1373-1085-1 RA 07h 36m 27.8s – Day 0 – Day 1 below and just past Mars -
PGC 3089750 RA 07h 34m 12.8s – Day 0 – Day 1 just past Mars  - Day 2 still visible at far right – last minutes for 750
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/16 169,117,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/15 170,234,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/14 171,226,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 642 is in Month 24 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  24 extends from Sol 642 through 668. <<== There are 27 days in Month 24. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 642  is Sunday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 630 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 667
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 24 of 24: Last month of Quarter 4 and Last month of Mars year 37

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tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update...

Greenwich, UK 10/17/2024, 13:00:03 Europe/London << 12:00:03 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 39m 40.8s Dec +22° 25' 36.9" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.22 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 228,037,364 km [24.1 km/s]
Earth Dist: 168,243,107 km [19.8 km/s]


Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
346.4
Sol number:   
643

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#2444 2024-10-17 08:09:06

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/24/02 Monday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/17 Thursday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 346.4 Sol Number: 643  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037643
Solar Longitude: 345.9 Sol Number: 642  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037642
Solar Longitude: 345.4 Sol Number: 641  Change in degrees is +.6 Julian date is: J0037641
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   228,037,364 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194663 <= +8111 km/hour at 12 on 10/17 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,842,701 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194853 <= +8118 km/hour at 12 on 10/16 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,647,848 km [24.2 km/s] Difference is +194929 <= +8122 km/hour at 12 on 10/15 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Four stars across path: TYC 1373-1480-1 RA 07h 40m 59.2s – Day 0 -
HIP 37121 RA 07h 37m 40.2s – Day 0 – Day 1 below and past Mars
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/17 168,158,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/16 169,117,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/15 170,234,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 643 is in Month 24 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  24 extends from Sol 642 through 668. <<== There are 27 days in Month 24. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 643  is Monday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 630 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 667
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

Recruiting text may be found at the bottom of this post:  http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257

Month 24 of 24: Last month of Quarter 4 and Last month of Mars year 37

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#2445 Yesterday 06:01:51

tahanson43206
Moderator
Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update:

Greenwich, UK 10/18/2024, 13:00:07 Europe/London << 12:00:07 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 41m 36.8s Dec +22° 22' 44.2" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.23 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 228,231,882 km [24.1 km/s]
Earth Dist: 167,166,325 km [19.6 km/s]

>>
Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
346.9
Sol number:   
644

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#2446 Yesterday 08:55:57

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
Posts: 19,072

Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

===
Today on Mars: 0037/24/04 Tuesday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/18 Friday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
====*=

Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

===
Solar Longitude: 346.9 Sol Number: 644  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037644
Solar Longitude: 346.4 Sol Number: 643  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037643
Solar Longitude: 345.9 Sol Number: 642  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037642
<<#

Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

===
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   228,231,882 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194518 <= +8105 km/hour at 12 on 10/18 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   228,037,364 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194663 <= +8111 km/hour at 12 on 10/17 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   227,842,701 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194853 <= +8118 km/hour at 12 on 10/16 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
==*==*==*

Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Galaxy above path: 1670606 RA 07h 42m 22.7s – Day 0 -
TYC 1373-1480-1 RA 07h 40m 59.2s – Day 0 – Day 1 Still ahead of Mars
====*====*>>>

Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

===
Earth Distance: 2024/10/18 167,036,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/17 168,158,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/16 169,117,000 (decreasing)
#>

Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

===
Sol 644 is in Month 24 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  24 extends from Sol 642 through 668. <<== There are 27 days in Month 24. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 644  is Tuesday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 630 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 667
##

The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

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Month 24 of 24: Last month of Quarter 4 and Last month of Mars year 37

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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

Place holder for today's Calendar update...

Greenwich, UK 10/19/2024, 13:00:00 Europe/London << 12:00:00 UTC
Object: Mars   (open sky map)
RA 07h 43m 31.2s Dec +22° 19' 50.2" Appar J2000
Mag: 0.23 (Estimated: JPL)  Const: Gemini
Sun Dist: 228,426,186 km [24.1 km/s]
Earth Dist: 166,087,114 km [19.4 km/s]

Martian Year:   
37
Martian Astronomical Month:   
12
Solar longitude Ls:   
347.4
Sol number:   
645


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#2448 Today 07:54:03

tahanson43206
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Registered: 2018-04-27
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Re: Martian Calender - I have created a martian calender...

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Today on Mars: 0037/24/05 Wednesday Days of the week offset 3 with Earth.  (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2024/08/28))

Today on Earth: 2024/10/19 Saturday Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars   [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
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Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/tim … _time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37  Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 12 <<== The Astronomical  year will increment when longitude reaches 360 degrees

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Solar Longitude: 347.4 Sol Number: 645  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037645
Solar Longitude: 346.9 Sol Number: 644  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037644
Solar Longitude: 346.4 Sol Number: 643  Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037643
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Note that Solar Longitude measurement varies as a function of location in orbit.  Ls 0 is the moment when the Sun appears to transit from one hemisphere to the other.  Update from Mars.NASA.gov (The Sun crosses the equator of Mars (Vernal Equinox)). The transition itself is a function of the tilt of an object with respect to the Solar plane. Per squarewidget.com, Hipparchus created the celestial coordinate system we use today.

Note#2: https://theskylive.com/mars-tracker  This web site shows the astronomical position of Mars as seen from Earth
Todo: At next Aphelion/Perihelion record the Mars data J00##### (and set Search term)
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 – Earth Date 2024/05/08 Next: (estimated) 2026/03/06
Perihelion occurred at Ls 251 on Sol 485 - Earth Date 2022/06/21 Next: (actual) 2024/05/08
Aphelion occurred at--- Ls 071 on Sol 152.  Aphelion Earth Dates: Earlier: 2017/10/07, 2015/11/20
Aphelion occurred near Ls 070 on Sol 153 (per www.planetary.org)

Note#3: The computations below are dependent upon both the computations provided by the reference web site and by accuracy of recording of the time of observations.  The calculations use tenths of hours.  The Sun Distance needs to be captured at the moment the time increments to a given tenth.

Note on data below: The figure quoted after distance is a rate of progress along the orbital path [exact meaning to be determined]
Minus prefix means Mars is approaching the Sun.  Plus prefix means Mars is moving away from the Sun.
The figure computed to the right of "Difference" is the rate of change of the distance to Sun. Increasing to Aphelion/Decreasing to Perihelion.

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Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   228,426,186 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194304 <= +8096 km/hour at 12 on 10/19 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   228,231,882 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194518 <= +8105 km/hour at 12 on 10/18 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
Distance: Mars >> Sun per theskylive.com:   228,037,364 km [24.1 km/s] Difference is +194663 <= +8111 km/hour at 12 on 10/17 (time 12:00) (24 hours)
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Observation: The sky view is ** filled ** with objects and some have been recorded and given identification by humans or their robot assistants
And! ** All ** the location assignments are from the perspective of Earth.  The entire catalog needs to be adjusted when inter-stellar travel begins
The work that lies ahead for the astronomical community is daunting - there is work ahead for centuries
2022/01/19 - All current (existing) stellar catalogs are computed with reference to the Earth.  Another civilization would use it's planet as reference.
Perhaps a Milky Way frame of reference will become necessary at some point. The Earth is as good a Zero point as any, for humans.

=== Mars is in Regular Movement as seen from Earth. Mars is progressing from right to  left in the view from Earth. Slant .005 degrees.
Next up: Mini-Boomer HIP 37636 RA 07h 43m 22.2s – Day 0-
PGC 1670606 RA 07h 42m 22.7s – Day 0 – Day 1 above and ahead of Mars – Day 1 -
TYC 1373-1480-1 RA 07h 40m 59.2s – Day 0 – Day 1 Still ahead of Mars – Day 2 above 15 hours ago marker
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Zoom Out Capability As a general observation ... I've become increasingly interested in knowing what the larger view of the sky might be like.
The site: theskylive.com does a terrific job of matching the view from Earth towards Mars, against a background of actual astronomical plates.
I wish there were a way (or rather, I wish I ** knew ** about a way that may exist) to enlarge the view until the entire galaxy is in view (Zoom out)
Update 2022/12/08 TheSkyLive.com provides a large view of selected objects: Select [Major Bodies] Then select [Information] in the body of interest
Update 2022/12/08 Scroll down to (body) Position and Finder Charts. Field of view is 50x30 degrees.

Note: The curve of the path of Mars as seen against the background of stars is now a line heading left at a downward angle.
As of 2023/01/11, the curve of the path has returned to regular movement to the left border

Light travel time today is between 9 and 10 minutes. Communications delay would be 18+ minutes round trip.

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Earth Distance: 2024/10/18 166,003,000(decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/18 167,036,000 (decreasing)
Earth Distance: 2024/10/17 168,158,000 (decreasing)
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Light travel in one second is (about) 300,000 kilometers. The distance covered in one minute is about 18,000,000 kilometers. Estimated light times:
1:18, 2:36, 3:54, 4:72, 5:90, 6:108, 7:126, 8:144,9:162,10:180,11:198,12:216,13:234,14:252,15:270,16:288,17:306,18:324,19:342,20:360,21:378,22:396

Maximum Earth-Mars distance is estimated to be 401 million kilometers (both at apogee and opposite vs Sun)
Mars and Earth were in Opposition (Earth center)  in December of 2022.  The date coincided with a (very rare) occultation of Mars by the Moon.
Mars and Earth were in Conjunction (Sun center) in November of 2023.
Mars and Earth appear to have been as close as they will get in this cycle. 81,454,323 kilometers on J0036644 Time: 4.53 minutes - 9 minutes round trip

In his online interview with Dr. Zubrin at the 2020 Mars Conference, Elon Musk reminded the audience that communications with Mars will necessarily include an intermediary station to handle traffic when the Sun is between Mars and Earth.  Communications delays in that circumstance will increase due to the extra distance to be covered.  Mr. Musk indicated he expects such communication will be handled by laser.  Location would be optimum at poles of solar plane.

Regular movement of Mars as seen from Earth resumed as of 2023/01/13. RA is once again increasing.
According to www.hercampus.com, Retrograde movement began October 30, 2022.
The online solar system display at the link below shows clearly how the Mars movement will occur in months ahead.

This web site offers an online model of the solar system: www.solarsystemscope.com  It requires Chrome 57, Firefox 52 or Safari 10.1. Viewed 2022/10/13: Opposition will occur some time in December of 2022.  Per earthsky.org, the date is December 8, 2022.

This web site offers an online orrery view of the Solar System: https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

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Sol 645 is in Month 24 of a Proposed 24 month calendar. See Post 19 of Holidays topic for a summary.
Month  24 extends from Sol 642 through 668. <<== There are 27 days in Month 24. See post 82 of Holidays topic for current details.
Direct path to source: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php … 57#p154257
Sol 645  is Wednesday in the Proposed Business calendar for Mars.   Sol 630 was a Skip Day on Mars. Next is near 667
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The Next New Year's on Mars will occur when Solar Longitude reaches 360 degrees. <<== The current year on Mars is 37
Per www.planetary.org Year 36 started 2021/02/07 on Earth. Mars Year 37 began 2022/12/27 on Earth.

Days of the Week Alignment:
Days of the week fall behind Earth due to the longer Sol, but they also change when Friday is omitted at the end of a Quarter
337 Earth days were observed to elapse in the 2020 weekday cycle. There were 7 week day transitions and 2 Quarter ends.
The next cycle began on the first Sol of the period of coincidence. The  alignment of weekdays interval is in the range: (310 - 337)
To find the first day of a period of coincidence: Set up: SearchTerm(colon) and (colon)Alignment and J0036* or J0037*
The most recent End-Of-Quarter change occurred: … The search specified above gave 11 pages of results.

For current weather on Mars see:

   ***https://mars.nasa.gov/insight/weather/***
   ***Insight's weather info has been suspended and now is directing to msl*** <<-- Insight's mission is over (2022)

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/weather/

Per SpaceNut: Here is another web page by NASA containing the latest news releases

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_ … ope=Latest

All forum members are invited to post significant events for this day.
Events of interest will be ON Mars, or relate to Mars. Examples are launches, landings, discoveries

Standard Month in Mars Business Calendar Copyright ® 2023 NewMars.com Mars Society
Su    Mo    Tu    We    Th    Fr    Sa
1       2      3      4      5      6      7
8       9    10     11    12    13    14
15    16    17     18    19    20    21
22    23    24     25    26    27    28

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