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#26 2023-08-13 14:47:06

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#27 2023-09-15 13:44:14

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Mini-Subs Could One Day Ply the Seas Under Europa’s Ice
https://www.universetoday.com/163186/mi … ropas-ice/

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#28 2023-09-16 06:38:05

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more on the Russian loss of a Submarine

Russian Submarine Suffers 'Catastrophic' Damage In Ukrainian Missile Strike
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russian-subma … 41575.html

Russian military sources have tried to downplay the damage caused to the landing ship Minsk and Rostov-na-Donu submarine.

But in their latest intelligence update on the war, the UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) said: “Open-source evidence indicates the Minsk has almost certainly been functionally destroyed, while the Rostov has likely suffered catastrophic damage.

“Any effort to return the submarine to service is likely to take many years and cost hundreds of millions of dollars.”

The MoD also said that “there is a realistic possibility” that the dry docks where the two vessels had been situated will be out of action for “many months” while the wreckage is cleared away.

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#29 2023-09-17 10:02:07

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#30 2023-09-23 16:58:25

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#31 2023-09-26 14:25:08

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This ariicle is about the recent return of a British nuclear powered submarine, after a six month tour of duty.

The crew appear to have survived, but the author of the article considers the deployment to be "irresponsible".  The crew is only 130 people. Compare that to 1060 people for eight months.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/roya … 00888.html

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#32 2023-09-27 19:25:50

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The large ship while it's to be considered spacious truly is a test of man's ability to live with one another.

Space however could have issues which happen due to complacency as Negligence on Board: $3 Billion Submarine Almost Capsized Due to Unsecured Hatch

Space also has less chances of a ‘Sir, We Hit a Russian Submarine’: A Navy Sub ‘Hit’ a Nuclear Attack Sub

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In either case it's important to save the equipment and then crew for our space adventures to mars.

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#34 2023-10-31 06:04:37

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GW Johnson wrote:

Electric Boat in Connecticut built a lot of diesel-electric submarines for the US Navy,  from between the world wars until the 1960's,  when nuclear pretty much superseded the diesel-electric.   I'm not sure about the early designs,  but the WW2 fleet subs and their immediate predecessors at the time of the V-boats in the 1930's were all-electric drive,  with the diesels running only electric generators to keep the lead-acid batteries charged. 

These fleet types were 4-engine boats capable of running up to about 22 knots on the surface,  and with 10,000-12,000 nautical mile range if you slowed a bit.  The Gato's were test depth rated to 300 feet,  while the Balao's and Tench's were rated to a test depth of 400 feet. I've actually been aboard a Balao still on active service with USN as a Guppy-modified boat when I was young.  Several of them survived in combat to depths of 600-700 feet.

A lot of the nuclear submarines are direct mechanical drive with steam turbines.  Some are electric drive with the steam turbines instead just generating electricity.

Some of the WW1 designs had clutches so the diesels could drive both the generators and the propeller shafts while surfaced.  That didn't work out so well as all-electric drive,  in terms of reliability.  This clutch thing was in the S-class boats from about 1919-to-1925-ish. Some of these served in combat during WW2.  They were were 2-engine boats,  capable of about 14 knots surfaced,  and about 5000 or 6000 nmi range,  if memory serves (which it might not at my age).  Test depth was 200 feet.  One of them survived grounding at 315 feet off China,  running from Japanese destroyers in WW2.

The diesel-electric thing done as all-electric drive is a true hybrid propulsion system.  In the 1930's it was small enough to fit in a 300-foot-long fleet submarine,  and in a railway diesel locomotive.  It's small enough now to it in a car.  The plug-in hybrids approximate it,  but not correctly.  You still have a very complicated and expensive transmission accepting shaft power from both an engine and an electric motor,  even with the plug-in hybrids. 

Hybrid cars really should be done with all-electric drive,  and you do not need a complicated transmission.  The plug-in hybrids proved that the electric components have to the power and the ruggedness to serve that function.  You could put the motor-generator and the fuel tank in a small trailer,  that you pull only when you need the range.  That trailer could also carry luggage or cargo for you. Again,  only when you need it.

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#36 2023-11-27 05:38:23

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Explorer who made the first dive to the bottom of the Marianas Trench

Retired Navy Capt. Don Walsh, Deep Sea Submariner and Ocean Explorer, Dies at 92
https://news.usni.org/2023/11/13/retire … dies-at-92
a deep-sea submarine officer, oceanographer and renowned explorer

'Ocean Explorer Recalls Dive to Deepest Part of Sea'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MXgqqmc1l8

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#37 2023-12-12 18:21:38

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Navy Submarine Just Tested A Torpedo Tube-Recovered Drone

quite an interesting item to make use of...

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#38 2023-12-29 08:50:12

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Many in service are coming up ill these days due to exposes The Air Force said its nuclear missile capsules were safe. But toxins lurked, documents show

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#39 2024-01-05 18:38:39

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USS Columbus receives final funds as it nears overhaul completion

The US Navy’s Los Angeles-class submarine, USS Columbus (SSN 762), approaches the end of its eight-year-long engineered overhaul.

HII Newport News Shipbuilding, a US naval industrial prime and contractor for the submarine’s sustainment since 2015, has received the final funds worth $283.9m. This will see the boat return to active service sometime after December 2025, when the Navy expects the work to be fulfilled.

All I can say is that's too much time to not be available for the Navy to make use of.

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A new X fighter is born as it is designed to replace the existing Ohio-class boomers Columbia Missile Submarine's X-Shaped Stern

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#42 2024-01-15 15:37:02

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It does happen Navy fires captain of guided missile submarine for 'loss of confidence'
Not sure why and article does not have details...

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#43 2024-03-31 04:05:03

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Why were passengers allowed on OceanGate’s experimental Titan sub?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4bYuSL8uVQ

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#44 2024-05-18 06:03:50

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'Titan Documentary'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWTtA_Nmlpw


The Dark Mystery of the USS Scorpion Submarine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfsGbbK1dFY

one of two nuclear submarines the U.S. Navy has lost, the other being USS Thresher


NASA’s Flyby Of Europa Suggests "Something" Stirring Beneath The Ice
https://www.iflscience.com/nasas-flyby- … -ice-74251


Soviets, St. Petersburg journalist Viktor Tereshkin tells us a story about submarine K-429 (Charlie-I class).
https://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues … m-oblivion


K-278 Komsomolets a nuclear-powered attack submarine of the Soviet Navy; the only submarine of her design class. The wrecked submarine is on the floor of the Barents Sea, about 1.7 km (1 mile) deep, with her nuclear reactor and two nuclear warhead-armed torpedoes still on board.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … ia/685.htm


K-159 a nuclear-powered submarine that served in the Northern Fleet of the Soviet Navy
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2020 … submarines

K-141 Kursk an Oscar II-class nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine of the Russian Navy.
a movie in 2018
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4951982/

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#45 2024-06-02 17:23:48

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Billionaire to take sub to Titanic to prove industry's safer after OceanGate implosion
https://www.express.co.uk/news/us/19042 … -oceangate
Larry Connor is preparing to plunge more than 12,400 feet to the site in a two-person Triton submersible



From a discussion navigation needs it's own beacons, Titan and Europa thread debate


the geographic restrictions apply
https://web.archive.org/web/20170128132 … report.pdf

'sonobuoys were equipped with one-pound packs of fluorescent dye to make them visible in daylight'
https://web.archive.org/web/20200324114 … 597432.pdf


North Korea Sinpo-class submarine also called the Gorae class or Pongdae class


possibly hold some type of submarine-launched ballistic missile, cruise missile or smaller SLBM

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021 … not-1.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20211027111 … democratic

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/pukguksong-3.htm

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#46 2024-06-15 06:32:08

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Kazan, a nuclear-powered cruise missile submarine of the Russian Navy.

a small part of Russia's Navy arrives in Cuba

however they also sent a Tugboat for their ships, submarine, frigate arriving


Canadian warship sharing an anchorage with Russian vessels in Cuba
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/canadian-wars … 00110.html

The Royal Canadian Navy now finds itself in the unusual position of both shadowing Russian warships as a threat in the Caribbean and sharing an anchorage with them as a guest in the port of Havana — because Canada accepted an invitation to send a patrol ship to Cuba while the Russian navy is in town.

The Russian ships are expected to leave Cuba and head for Venezuela, where the Nicolas Maduro government is another major backer of Putin and the war in Ukraine.
"The Canadian Armed Forces will continue to track the movements and activities of the Russian naval flotilla" after it departs Havana, Kened Sadiku of DND told CBC News.



Donald Trump Criticizes Biden Over Russian Naval Presence Near Cuba
https://www.cubaheadlines.com/articles/283623

'Strategic Calculations Behind Russia’s Kazan Nuclear Submarine’s Upcoming Visit to Cuba'
https://theaviationist.com/2024/06/08/s … t-to-cuba/

"Russian Frigate Sails To The Atlantic With Hypersonic Missiles".
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 … -missiles/

Cuba welcomes Russian military ships to Havana
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c722m823612o
'part of a military drill in the Caribbean.'

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