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The Chinese premier came out stating that galileo was a civilian project and was not a military target.
http://spacedaily.com/news/milspace-04z … Spacedaily article
It seems that the Usa concerned that the Galileo satelite system would not have an off switch under there control requested one. The EU refused. At that point it was mentioned that they would destroy these satelites if "they thought it was being used or could be used to guide weapons against Us interests" The United States wanted the ability to have the power to switch of the Galileo system anywhere in the world.
Galileo is a civilian system at heart and with more satelites in operation will be a great boon to industry. But it will also be a lot more accurate than the United States GPS system and as it is a project in which the EU and Russia and China are partners it is not surprising that it is viewed with concern by the Pentagon. But threatening to destroy another nations property just because it may pose a threat is a slap to the face of all the countries involved. It could lead to the EU and its partners creating their own anti satelite weapons and returning the threat. And incidentally it is Russia which is building the new launch complex in south Korea.
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US officials have voiced fears that the rival system, which has also brought on board Russia and Israel in addition to China, could compromise US and NATO military operations which rely on GPS for navigation and combatant location and might also interfere with a classified Pentagon positioning system known as M-Code.
The code is just a repeating sequence of numbers and I wouldn’t be surprised if some other country already knows it either by decoding it or through espionage. The code was deliberately designed to be a spread band code so it could not easily be jammed. If a given satellite produces some errors there are still many other satellites to correct the results. There is no reason the US can’t tap into the Galileo satellites as well to further improve their position information. On the one hand the US complains about other countries not providing adequate security for them selves. On the other hand it tries to discourage them from developing certain technologies. Perhaps the authors are right. This is about monopoly. The US has no problem with friendly courtiers having advanced technology as long as they are the ones that sell it to them.
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That's a popular South Korean newspaper
If it was a North.Korean you'd really know about it, there would be lots of propaganda on the website and it would be declaring it's new plans for the building of weapons in the next few weeks and more or less screaming death to America, they are crazy. I won't go into it because I've already posted on this issue in the U.S election thread
Some of the S.Korean newspapers are good, some are very different to each other. they can have very socialist or liberal writers, they sometimes see the people who came from the Western powers and the Soviet/Communist areas as an obstacle to the area Korea ever becoming one nation and one people. I recall some South Korean papers were very vocal on some issues like two U.S. soldiers involved in an accident that killed two girls.
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I saw another article that Russia was talking to Seoul about building a launch facility for their new Soyuz-2 in South Korea.
Wow!
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http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id … ert=0]Edit, the Soyuz-2 reference was in error. But they are cooperating.
Who are we Americans cooperating with?
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Well it seems the Chinese are praising the EU and ESA for creating the system and remonstrating the US for threatening the destruction of a system the whole world would be allowed to use.
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-04 … Spacedaily report on Chinese news paper article
It is unfortunate but this situation is basically the US versus the rest of the world including many countries that are US allies. It is not just that the US has withdrawn from its links with Europe and is suspicious of the expanding political body that is the EU. Other partners in Galileo are China and Russia and Israel and Japan, it is a bit silly to threaten all these countries. The US does need friends and this is certainly not the way to do it, I wonder if it will push the EU in space closer to Russia and China.
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I don't understand the fuss. You can't tell me that the Chinese wouldn't, if they were able, try to knock out our GPS satillites in the event of a war.
Theres no great reason for Europe to build a second system other than to compete with US by providing the service to smaller regional players.
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I wonder if it will push the EU in space closer to Russia and China.
It already has.
Imagine its 1974 not 2004 and Russia is planning to launch spacecraft from a FRENCH facility in South America and help the South Koreans build launch facilities.
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I don't understand the fuss. You can't tell me that the Chinese wouldn't, if they were able, try to knock out our GPS satillites in the event of a war.
Theres no great reason for Europe to build a second system other than to compete with US by providing the service to smaller regional players.
The reason is to do with the nature of the GPS itself. There is a need for a lot more acurate system than the one currently provided by the US satelites. It means that to get the within the coordinates Galileo will give it has to have a lot more satelites to operate. GPS is a military system designed to guide weapons and aircraft to the general are of a target. It has a very bad error ratio making sure your within 15 metres. Galileo is a civilian system designed to have a person on the ground know to high degree of error exactly where he is. Good for making buildings in the right place for locating specific points for a map and what it is fundementally designed for the eventual, place locating system for the operation of cars that drive themselves. And Galileo will give an accuracy of close to 1 metre.
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And Galileo will give an accuracy of close to 1 metre
I think the millitary version of GPS can atleast do that too if they use multiple satalites and a Kalman filter.
Anyway I think each nation should have control of there own satellites and if the find they are being used to guide weapons in a war they don’t support then they can choose whether to change the code or risk retaliation. Each country will initially put up there own satellites at first and they will work together if they find they are being used in a way they don’t want then they can change the code of there satellites.
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I don't understand the fuss. You can't tell me that the Chinese wouldn't, if they were able, try to knock out our GPS satillites in the event of a war.
Theres no great reason for Europe to build a second system other than to compete with US by providing the service to smaller regional players.
The reason is to do with the nature of the GPS itself. There is a need for a lot more acurate system than the one currently provided by the US satelites. It means that to get the within the coordinates Galileo will give it has to have a lot more satelites to operate. GPS is a military system designed to guide weapons and aircraft to the general are of a target. It has a very bad error ratio making sure your within 15 metres. Galileo is a civilian system designed to have a person on the ground know to high degree of error exactly where he is. Good for making buildings in the right place for locating specific points for a map and what it is fundementally designed for the eventual, place locating system for the operation of cars that drive themselves. And Galileo will give an accuracy of close to 1 metre.
We have GPS guilded bombs that can do alot better than "a general area".
And building tolerences are a lot smaller than one meter.
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Earth Must Resist U.S. Monopoly of Space (Sources: Korea Herald, SpaceToday.net)
Galileo, the prestigious European satellite navigation system, is under threat by the United States. According to Business Week magazine, the U.S. threatened to attack the Galileo network if it is used by alleged adversaries, such as terrorists. This is nothing but a U.S. monopoly and is sharply counter to the spirit of peaceful use of outer space and closer international space cooperation. It explicitly demonstrates, once again, the urgency for the rest of the world to have an independent satellite-based positioning and timing infrastructure to ruffle the dominance of the United States amid mounting worries about its post-Sept. 11 hegemony in the name of antiterror. Visit http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/ … ...010.asp to view the article
politics may be changing and alliance shift slightly - as BWhite said Russia is planning to launch spacecraft from a FRENCH facility in South America and help the South Koreans build launch facilities.
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A bilateral agreement between Russia and South Korea was signed Tuesday authorizing the building of a space center in South Korea and the training of a Korean astronaut for a mission at the International Space Station, reports RIA Novosti.
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/russia-05zn.html
Moscow, Seoul To Cooperate In Space Exploration
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The first test satellite of the Galileo system of European GPS satelites has been named. Giove-A will launch on the 28th of this month.
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That's a popular South Korean newspaper.
South Koreans feel as being the very same people as north Koreans.
In a poll, a slight majority of south Koreans answered that if USA was to take military action against North Korea, they would rise against USA.
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Do the North Korean (people) know what GPS is?
Oh and I don't feel like registering.
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Not exactly Bushisms, 43rd president Bush jnr would make mistakes every second day
Kamala Harris accidentally praises America's 'strong alliance' with North Korea
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ … -alliance/
US vice president made error during visit to the Demilitarised Zone on the Korean peninsula
In North Korea more hashtag DPRK # news trending on twitter
Every once in a while 'another crucial satellite test' at space launch site but a military missile program claiming to explore space.
One in a while they make other statements that are easier to understand their motives.
N. Korea confirms nuke missiles tests to 'wipe out' enemies
https://apnews.com/article/business-seo … 3223ebfa3b
'Air Raid sirens from minutes ago in Tokyo, Capital of Japan, following the North Korean/DPRK missile launch.'
https://twitter.com/firamnews/status/15 … 8541091842
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