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#51 2017-03-31 17:42:02

SpaceNut
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Something else to keep in mind for the older machine that still runs just fine is the websites that you visit while it may view ok in firefox or IE8 that when they design there sites with IE9 or higher that the lower version will show a img place holder box, this happens even if the link is from firefox 48.0.2 as the IE can not direct its image functions correctly even when we view the newmars site with IE8.

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#52 2017-05-12 18:57:20

jburk
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Hi all,

Today we banned two long-time contributors due to their lack of decorum and flagrant violation of these forum rules.  Please take a moment to review these rules and ensure your posts are adhering to them.

Thanks,


James L. Burk
Executive Director, The Mars Society
jburk@marssociety.org
+1 (206) 601-7143

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#53 2017-10-15 02:48:32

clark
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Fight the words. Fight the madness.

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#54 2018-01-04 17:15:36

SpaceNut
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

It has come to my knowledge that some do not like all the name calling, drama and are lurking because of it, in away as to not be part of it.

This free chat folder and topics have always been rather loose in the rule enforcment that pervails on the rest of the forum and as such its up to the forums actual owners to make that change to make it such that we will no longer tolerate such events.

At one time in the past the poltical folder was removed and that would be also up to the web master to do as I am not the one to make those changes.

We did lose 2 members earlier in the year as a result of racism, name calling and such in the other parts of the forum and that was taken care of by the web master after such content was reported.

I for one do not wish to lose any more members due to these types of events. We all are a bit passionate and need to reign it in from time to time; as others that do frequent forums here may be not so apt to post due to the intolerance that seems to be here to these events of name calling and more.

Every post that is marked is reviewed as reported especially in the remaining parts of the forum.

Moderators are few but they can change what is there, move the content and elevate the circumstances of the post to the admin levels to which I am not the only name in the list.

Do not be afraid to report as I would like to see the forum membership of those that post continue to grow and not retreat as it has in the past.

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#55 2018-02-04 20:30:21

clark
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

words, a weapon, literacy, the bullet. grammar, a caliber. this is just text.

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#56 2018-03-22 12:56:14

GW Johnson
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Spacenut and JBurk:

Just a heads-up:  I suspect we are about to be hit with a wave of spammers,  based on the most recent entries in the "science,  technology,  and astronomy" folder. 

GW

Last edited by GW Johnson (2018-03-22 12:57:05)


GW Johnson
McGregor,  Texas

"There is nothing as expensive as a dead crew,  especially one dead from a bad management decision"

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#57 2018-03-22 14:24:10

jburk
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Thanks for the heads-up.  I'm on it.


James L. Burk
Executive Director, The Mars Society
jburk@marssociety.org
+1 (206) 601-7143

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#58 2018-03-22 17:00:42

SpaceNut
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Just now home jburk to start in on it but you already got to all the spamming. Yes GW thanks for the tip, was at work peeking at the forums for such but can not do any at that point as its a government computer.

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#59 2018-09-17 09:15:27

JoshNH4H
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

I banned the above member but can't actually delete this post because I don't have mod powers in this subforum


-Josh

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#60 2018-09-17 10:09:09

kbd512
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Josh,

Thanks.  These spammers and other assorted crooks are really getting obnoxious.

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#61 2018-09-17 16:26:42

SpaceNut
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Thanks all it is taken care of...

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With that its seems like its time to come up with a common lock of user accounts that do not vist or post after a 90 day wait period.
There is no direct feature as written as of yet and while we can ban with a message its the message hat still must have a common note input into each banned account.

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#62 2019-03-19 21:27:06

SpaceNut
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

I was reminded by

tahanson43206 wrote:

In past years (as I understand it) the NewMars forum had a review process for applications for membership in the forum. I'd like to ask for a collective review of that idea. 
How did the system work (way back then) and why did it fail?
The registration process seems to be effectively unrestricted right now.
An interview could be requested by an applicant.
The interview could be requested with an existing member who has agreed to serve as a gatekeeper.
If I were to serve as a gatekeeper, for example, I would ask the application a set of questions which would be agreed upon by the forum community.
Among these might be:
Why are you interested in NewMars forum?  (eg, are you wanting to sell something?)
How could you contribute to the forum?
(th)

Is there some way to begin stopping the first post again, until confirmed before an account can be activated fully for making posts?

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#63 2020-07-21 17:23:07

SpaceNut
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

Saw this and the wording for the most part would apply here as well..

As a reminder, this [subreddit] insert [NewMars] is for civil discussion.
In general, be courteous to others. Debate/discuss/argue the merits of ideas, don't attack people.
Personal insults, shill or troll accusations, hate speech, any advocating or wishing death/physical harm, and other rule violations can result in a permanent ban.
If you see comments in violation of our rules, please report them.

Due to the many spammers we should also add something like this:

There is no reason to create an account if all that is desired is to lurk or to be disruptive as all we seek is the science of the mind to talk about space and all things there in.

kbd512 wrote:

How important is spamming a forum dedicated to Mars exploration and colonization?

Do you think most people come to this site looking for fake passports or porn or computer viruses?

How about one of you guys actually post something tangentially related to Mars?

At least that'd make the con more believable.


As a result of continued spamming attacks and large quantities of dormant accounts, it is the decision of the board to begin locking these accounts if a follow post is not made within 30 days. If you want your account, sorry reregister again and be sure to post so that you are not banned again.

adding this repost this way so as to not provoke

being purposely insulting or obtuse to what is said

declaring that you need or have credential to answer or to question supposed experts

EdwardHeisler wrote:

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edit
so as to not step on the next post I am adding comments here instead

The wording of kbd512's post is spot on to what we want to have happen here.

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#64 2021-07-23 10:50:27

kbd512
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Re: NEW MARS RULES

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