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This is the ESA image. It shows the water rich region. The impact regions are very smooth as melt water flows and refreezes. It looks like frozen mud, because it is frozen mud. The surface water is not far below the dusty surface. These "lakes" formed, not long ago in geological time.
ESA reference link:
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space … south_pole
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Springtime_at_Mars_south_pole by dfrank39, on Flickr
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I am relearning how to post images. Mars weather involves water. This image is significant on many levels. First, it shows the image quality that NASA has. Second, it shows the difference in atmospheric dust at different latitudes. Mars can have "dust free" skies as evident here. The "green" skies of Mars are becoming evident. Viking seen, Curiosity did as well. Blue plus yellow equals green. Only in dust free conditions would we see a blue hue.
NASA satellite image:
672847main_vasavada-4_full by dfrank39, on Flickr
Viking "raw" image of the sky:
Mars_Viking_11h016 by dfrank39, on Flickr
Curiosity image of the sky:
Sol45_Mastcam100_MountSharp by dfrank39, on Flickr
Dust conditions dictate sky conditions. Mars may not have "little green men," but it has, "green' skies..."
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A repost from Curiosity.....
0333MH0305000000C0_DXXX by dfrank39, on Flickr
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This Phobos image in Gale, by Curiosity, is witness....
0045MR0209002000E1_DXXX11111 by dfrank39, on Flickr
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Cyclops seems to have "bowed" to UMSF (unmanned space flight) Dough don't want nobody like me. Good news. Flickr gave me a free gig....
Phobos after sunset on Mars.... from Spirit.....
phobos_sol682B by dfrank39, on Flickr
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Phobos from ESA....
atmosphere by dfrank39, on Flickr
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Only the polar regions have more frequent clear skies. That's not to say it does not occur in the mid and low latitudes. Dust just seems to "hang in the air" there.
Raw, grayscale image from Curiosity....
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NLA_401372570EDR_F0042002NCAM00517M_stretch by dfrank39, on Flickr
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This image has been withheld for a while. It is a "raw color" image from Opportunity, Victoria Crater. The image was processed by "Winston" from, the "Mars rover blog."
Clear skies no doubt. Green hue on the berries ???? He was beating the green out.....
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clouds vic by dfrank39, on Flickr
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Louros Valles, south of Ius Chasma, shows green on Mars. This ESA image is not restricted by US, intelligence. If the green images from Opportunity seem unlikely, then, these ESA images should be suspect.....
44eeb15b-19f3-4ac4-97e1-d44b4e5d45bc113 by dfrank39, on Flickr
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http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space … Ius_Chasma
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A sweet spot no doubt.... We are "the life".... ESA....
dessart clouds by dfrank39, on Flickr
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An Earth analogue. Dessert and "life." Why is there green???? Alexandria. A great port of "life" from the dry dessert. Is Mars different? Or is water moisture a hint of life.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria
new-maps-green-earth-vegetation-nile_68577_600x450 by dfrank39, on Flickr
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This image is from "Mars Anomaly Research." Skipper did drift off from time to time. Do I agree with all he had to say? No. He did, however, present, unedited images.
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A water ice cascade.....
Waterfall_001 by dfrank39, on Flickr
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This is my first time and I am new here. I have a few questions about the craters on Mars. Is there any place on Mars that does not have meteor impacts? Where is the safest place for a HAB in regards to impacts? And could there be precious metals worth mining in these craters? I am not sure if this is the correct place to ask questions, if it isn't maybe someone could let me know. Thanks for any feedback in advance.
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Welcome to the forums.
I think Human Missions would probably be the appropriate forum to put that question in? I'll answer here anyway:
1) On the surface, no. Though there will be parts where there won't be apparent craters, because of ice deposits covering them. But that's true for Earth as well. The issue is more about the frequency of impacts.
2) The best place would be underground. Which you're probably going to be doing anyway, because of radiation and the need to counter-balance your atmospheric pressure.
3) Yes, if it's a nickel-iron one. Same as on Earth.
But the atmosphere does a good job of shielding the surface from the tiny ones, and the big ones would be a threat even on Earth...
Use what is abundant and build to last
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Thanks for the response.
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Damn fine pictures. I was into it for sure.
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Ya you sure was and still hopefully are welcome back....
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Louros Valles, south of Ius Chasma, shows green on Mars. This ESA image is not restricted by US, intelligence. If the green images from Opportunity seem unlikely, then, these ESA images should be suspect.....
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2848/9344679288_8653d65489.jpg
44eeb15b-19f3-4ac4-97e1-d44b4e5d45bc113 by dfrank39, on FlickrREF:
Yes, nice images, and l agree, the only high res, image of Mars from orbit is the ESA one, which clearly shows green areas and giant lake areas, and blue atmosphere.
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Have many more images, but I have gone mobile. Any instructions to simply upload images from tablets?
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Hey Vincent,
The forum is no long doing image hosting, so here's how you can post images:
Upload them to an image hosting site such as tinypic or imgur
Acquire the url for the image by right-clicking on the image (press and hold on most mobile devices) and selecting "open image in new tab". Copy the url for that tab
In your post, write the following: [ img ]your_url_here.url[ /img ]. You will need to remove the spaces between the [ ] and the text in between (adding spaces is the only way I know how to make the code show up).
If you have any other questions about the markup language used by newmars, it is called BBCode and you can google it.
-Josh
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