New Mars Wiki now online

Adrian · 2002-11-09 10:55:11

Check out the New Mars Wiki that I've set up at http://www.newmars.com/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi - it's a place where anyone can write and edit anything; I think the whole wiki concept offers huge possibilities for new kinds of collaborative works and sharing of information. To find out what a wiki is, follow the link.

At the moment it's decidedly a bare-bones site, but the idea is for me - and all of you guys - to add material to it, so it should grow and evolve over time. Have fun!

Josh Cryer · 2002-11-09 11:18:23

OMG.

I am going to have a field day.

Josh Cryer · 2002-11-13 15:31:08

Adrian, could you turn on HTML, pleassssssseeeeeee?

The Wiki needs spiffying!

Adrian · 2002-11-14 06:08:07

What exactly is it that you want spiffying? I'm reluctant to turn on HTML because that means people could put a whole load of potentially dangerous crap there, but I'm willing to listen.

Josh Cryer · 2002-11-14 12:42:21

Well, just to color certain text and put tables up (with a different background color) to make it look prettier.

I looked for a UseMod patch that would do this, without giving full HTML capablities, but I couldn't find one, unfortunately. Any ideas?

I haven't been at it lately, but I'm basically going to throw all my bookmarks there, and then some stuff about the Mars Society, etc.

Adrian · 2002-11-14 14:17:08

Ah... well, I'll definitely think about it. It'd be nice to be running a more advanced engine that would allow this but alas, that's not possible right now.

Josh Cryer · 2002-11-14 14:35:17

Well, don't really worry about it so much. I play with lots of Wiki's that don't allow HTML.

If you could, though, just edit out the ?= =? command so that it puts a colorful table around the text, rather than merely making a bold header.

This can be done by going to ?sub WikiHeading? (in wiki.pl) and replacing the, "<H$depth>$text</H$depth>
" with, "<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" bg="#008080"><H$depth>$text</H$depth></table>
"

Heh. You can substitute the background color for something you'd like, though. I think you'd agree that it would look more appealing. (This is how my favorite Wikis do headers, for the most part.)

Adrian · 2002-11-14 15:00:25

Wow, you know quite a bit about wikis it seems. I'll go and change it soon.

Josh Cryer · 2002-11-14 15:34:51

Two problems with my code, first, perl reserves " for itself, so you either have to replace it with ' or delimit it with \". I prefer the later since it looks cleaner to the web browser (even though the code itself looks dirty). And second, the text didn't look right so far left, so I added a non-breaking space.

So the final code would be (I changed the color, too- stole it from another Wiki- I like it, but feel free to pick somehting you like! ):

"<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"100%\" bg=\"#E8CC98\"><tr><td><H$depth>?$text</H$depth></td></tr></table>
"

Dang, sorry about the bugs the first go-around. Hope you saw my message before going through with it.

BTW, it doesn't take much to figure that out. I have perl on my computer here, so I just guessed, for the most part.

Adrian · 2002-11-14 16:24:06

Just made the change - looks very nice I may put it on the other wikis I run. Any other suggestions, Josh?

Josh Cryer · 2002-11-14 16:28:09

Ahh, thank you so much Adrian. I just went and edited the NasaMarsSites page a little, so that the text within the headers is smaller (= is big == is smaller and === is even smaller). It looks really good.

I can't think of anything else at the momment, but I'll be sure to bug you when I can. You make a great benevolent dictator.

Josh Cryer · 2002-11-27 22:13:13

Hey Adrian.

I implemented tables in Usemod. Now we can have pages which look much more organized than they are already. Could you please put this code before the "return $_;" in sub CommonMarkup?

Blah, I edited it again.

BEGIN CODE

while (my ($table_str) = /<table(.{0,96}?)>.*?<\/table>/gis) {
my $table_attr; my $table = "<table";

foreach $table_attr ("border=\"?[0-9]{1\,2}\"?","cellpadding=\"?[0-9]{1\,2}\"?","cellspacing=\"?[0-9]{1\,2}\"?","width\=\"?(:?\\b(:?100|[0-9]{1,2})\\b%|\\b(:?800|[1-7]?[0-9]{1,2}\\b))\"?","align\=\"?(:?left|center|right)\"?","bgcolor\=\"?#[0-9A-Fa-f]{6}\"?")
{
$table .= " " . $1 if ($table_str =~ /($table_attr)/is)
}

$table .= ">"; s/<table(.*?)>(.*?)<\/table>/\L$table\E$2<\/table>/is;

while (my ($td_str) = /<td(.{0,96}?)>.*?<\/td>/gis) {
my $td_attr; my $td = "<td";

foreach $td_attr ("align\=\"?(:?left|center|right)\"?","valign\=\"?(:?top|middle|bottom|baseline)\"?","colspan\=\"?[0-9]{1\,2}\"?","rowspan\=\"?[0-9]{1\,2}\"?","width\=\"?(:?\\b(:?100|[0-9]{1,2})\\b%|\\b(:?200|[1-2]?[0-9]{1,2}\\b))\"?","bgcolor\=\"?#[0-9A-Fa-f]{6}\"?")
{
$td .= " " . $1 if ($td_str =~ /($td_attr)/is);
}

$td .= ">"; s/<td(.*?)>(.*?)<\/td>/\L$td\E$2<\/td>/is;
}

while (my ($th_str) = /<th(.{0,96}?)>.*?<\/th>/gis) {
my $th_attr; my $th = "<th";

foreach $th_attr ("align\=\"?(:?left|center|right)\"?","valign\=\"?(:?top|middle|bottom|baseline)\"?","colspan\=\"?[0-9]{1\,2}\"?","rowspan\=\"?[0-9]{1\,2}\"?","width\=\"?(:?\\b(:?100|[0-9]{1,2})\\b%|\\b(:?200|[1-2]?[0-9]{1,2}\\b))\"?","bgcolor\=\"?#[0-9A-Fa-f]{6}\"?")
{
$th .= " " . $1 if ($th_str =~ /($th_attr)/is);
}

$th .= ">"; s/<th(.*?)>(.*?)<\/th>/\L$th\E$2<\/th>/is;
}

while (my ($tr_str) = /<tr(.{0,36}?)>.*?<\/tr>/gis) {
my $tr_attr; my $tr = "<tr";

foreach $tr_attr ("align\=\"?(:?left|center|right)\"?","valign\=\"?(:?top|middle|bottom|baseline)\"?")
{
$tr .= " " . $1 if ($tr_str =~ /($tr_attr)/is);
}

$tr .= ">"; s/<tr(.*?)>(.*?)<\/tr>/\L$tr\E$2<\/tr>/is;
}
}

ENDCODE

Okay, this is the ?final? version. All tables are limited to 99 cells per table. Table widths cannot exceed 100% (which is a neat feature, if I do say so myself), and table cells cannot exceed 200 pixels. I limited it to basically render ?good? in 800x600- you can still make an ugly table, but not as bad as you could without these things added.

Adrian · 2002-12-05 08:20:38

Hi Josh, I don't think I'll be able to implement that until I get back from Utah although I'll be sure to add it to the wiki when I do.

Josh Cryer · 2002-12-05 10:21:56

Hmm, thanks for letting me know.

Josh Cryer · 2003-01-07 17:32:00

Bump.

Palomar · 2003-01-07 17:37:43

Bump.

*Grind.

Wanna dance, Josh?

--Cindy

Adrian · 2003-01-07 17:42:50

Okay, okay, I'll get it done when I get back to Cambridge on Saturday, and thus get back my nice fast Internet connection (I'm on a shared dialup at the moment ). Right now I'm trying to sort out some urgent and worrying billing issues for New Mars' web hosting... there is a small but present possibility that we might get shut down because there's a problem with a bill from a couple of months back. Bleh.

Josh Cryer · 2003-01-07 18:54:28

*Grind.
Wanna dance, Josh?

Ooooh. Kinky! Dunno what my galfriend would say abought that though!

::dances::

Okay, okay, I'll get it done when I get back to Cambridge on Saturday

Hehehe, that's great. By then I'll have fixed one minor thing I don't like about how it renders.

I don't mean to pressure you, though. I haven't been playing with the Wiki as much as I would have liked to. I'm going to update some more tonight, I just think my narration ablities are lacking. And I feel I'm not doing a good enough service with my additions to the Wiki...

For those who wanna see all the pages, though, click on this.

Josh Cryer · 2003-01-08 13:08:26

Okay I updated it.

Arobie · 2005-06-04 12:27:59

I quess this is a wierd first post, resurrecting a 2 year old thread...

Adrian, nice Wiki. I like it.

Do you mind me asking what engine you are using? Also, what other wiki's do you run, I would like to check them out too.

jburk · 2017-09-03 11:44:10

For historical purposes and as part of modernizing & building out Marspedia.org:

I have restored the New Mars Wiki! - wiki.newmars.com

Right now, creating new user accounts are turned off to prevent spam, but let me know if you want me to set one up for you.

Enjoy!

SpaceNut · 2017-09-03 15:32:39

Time to fix another topic for shifting and conversion artifacts....

Those were was quick to fix....

Nice very nice to have the best of both worlds coming back online for the collective data compiled in our discussions to be made use of for the purpose of planning and going to mars one day.

Last edited by SpaceNut (2017-09-03 15:37:51)

SpaceNut · 2021-05-01 16:30:38

The other wiki topic...

sure wished that I could merge topics but thats not a function we have in this software...

SpaceNut · 2023-01-14 10:59:01

I found that we have not updated how we would use topics as discussion and a companion for a different form of wiki that the creator of them would control for this purpose.

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