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#26 2022-02-28 12:48:49

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Rough translation

'The government has confirmed and announced the scheduled date for the second launch of Nuriho on June 15.

The final launch date will be confirmed taking into account future weather conditions.'

https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/1497100491737923584

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#27 2022-03-03 07:53:11

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Russian sanctions throw South Korean satellite missions into uncertainty

https://spacenews.com/russian-sanctions … certainty/

South Korea’s CAS500-2 remote sensing satellite is set to launch in the first half of this year on a Russian Soyuz rocket from Russia’s Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. South Korea’s KOMPSAT-6 multipurpose satellite, equipped with synthetic aperture radar (SAR), is due to launch in the second half of the year on a Russian Angara rocket from Plesetsk Cosmodrome in northern Russia. “For now, nothing has changed to the plan,” Korea Aerospace Research Institute spokesman Roh Hyung-il told SpaceNews. “We are taking a close look at how the situation unfolds because it could have a significant impact on our missions.” He admitted that it’s “very likely” that the satellites won’t be launched as planned.

The KARI spokesman said he “wishes everything would be settled peacefully as soon as possible so that the missions would proceed as originally planned.” But if South Korea is put in a situation where it won’t be able to use Russian vehicles, he added, launching the satellites this year will be “impossible.”

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#28 2022-03-09 20:02:57

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South Korea elects new president Yoon Suk-yeol after nasty race
https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/south-kor … asty-race/

South Korea's conservative opposition candidate Yoon Suk-yeol elected new president, but rocky road ahead
https://www.asiaone.com/asia/south-kore … rocky-road

Some media class him as rightwing or conservative and the election seems to have divided some. A famous writer tv commentator Chin Jung-kwon, who supports Yoon, called his political inclination "libertarianism. 'People Power Party' was formed by the merger of the Liberty Korea Party, New Conservative Party, and Onward for Future 4.0, as well as several minor parties,  The Economist magazine described PPP as "fiscal conservative"

S. Korea proposes development of space rocket using hybrid engine
https://www.ajudaily.com/view/20220223172922686
The development of a hybrid rocket motor that uses one propellant in solid form and the other in liquid form was proposed at a high-level defense technology committee chaired by Defense Minister Suh Wook on February 22 that drew vice-ministerial level government officials and representatives from major government-funded research institutes, and private experts.

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#29 2022-03-18 07:18:11

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We already had news report Russian sanctions throw South Korean satellite missions into uncertainty?



S. Korea, U.S. to discuss cooperation in space security, N. Korean threats

http://yna.kr/AEN20220318002200325?input=red

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#30 2022-04-11 14:53:01

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Lunar construction technologies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_N4GTmwtF8

S. Korea to launch first homegrown spy satellite atop SpaceX rocket in 2023
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220408005700325

South Korea hires SpaceX to launch five spy satellites by 2025
https://spacenews.com/south-korea-hires … s-by-2025/

S. Korea to conduct full-fledged solid-fuel space rocket launch in 2025
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220404005200325

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#31 2022-04-21 17:56:55

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South Korea’s double-digit space budget boost

https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-doub … get-boost/

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#32 2022-05-08 05:58:18

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Hyundai is funding a 50 person research team in Montana to build vehicles with 4 robotic legs as well as wheels. The goal - vehicles that can deal with previously inaccessible terrains

https://newatlas.com/automotive/hyundai-utv-robot-legs/

Incoming government committed to fostering space industry: transition team chief

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220501002300315

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#33 2022-05-09 11:40:27

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South Korea’s new president seeks independent space agency, deeper US space cooperation
https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-new- … operation/
South Korea’s newly elected president Yoon Suk-yeol will take office May 10 with a set of ambitious space projects aimed at making the country a major space power by 2035.

They include establishing an independent aerospace agency offering integrated management of civil and military space programs in Sacheon, South Gyeongsang Province, home to nearly 100 aerospace companies, and developing a high-power rocket for independent satellite launches in the near term and lunar and Mars exploration in the long-run. Early completion of the country’s own GNSS system, which is on track to launch a full-fledged service by 2035, is another mission the new leader wants to accomplish to bolster the nation’s economic and military prowess.

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#34 2022-05-09 11:55:35

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For Mars_B4_Moon re #33 ... thank you for this encouraging update on the new leader in South Korea.

We have a launch window to Mars coming up in September.

We have a strong lander proposal floating "out there" from GW Johnson.

If you have time please look for a contact address (email or web site contact form) which Dr. Johnson could use to deliver his proposal.  Time's a'wastin'

It is May, and September is close in space flight terms.

A Nation with the proven resources and capability of South Korea could definitely fund a flight for Dr. Johnson's water exploration drill and landing site pounder, but they can't do much if they don't know what is possible.

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#35 2022-05-09 12:57:44

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Tahanson43206 I don't have contact with people in Korea, I can not read Korean. I met some South Koreans in real life but have little contacts or no contact since the first Global Corona Lockdowns 2 years ago, I did meet many people but life got less busy the past years. If people want to talk to Koreans then most of Korea is on the web, there are 49 million internet users in South Korea out of 51 Million people, even if you included the isolated Communist North  with total population of Korea to be 80 million it would still mean most of Korea is on the web and South Korea is totally online. I believe Korea like Japan has its own unique social networks, they have high speed internet and most people are online, there are 3 big unique social networks there, cyworld.com was big but now its dying it was like the myspace, geocities, 4chan thing of its time now passed by twitter or facebooks, I believe 'BAND' by Naver is still very big, https://band.us/en and Daum KakaoTalk https://www.kakaocorp.com/page/news you will probably need to read Korean 'Hangul' but other sites like Tiktok have a lot of English and Instagram. there are some Koreans on twitter but I don't see many. The Instagram type Koreans are growing but I have never really been on those sites, there is no reason for me to browse those sites as I only see media weirdos, rapper rock wannabes, attention whore cam types and silly viral videos so I never really wanted to click on those sites again but I hear 'Instagrams' are growing in Korea and there are some important celebs and scientists and media people on it.
Kakao Talk as a platform offers some kind of Instant Messaging/Video Calling, Daum Cafe is some kind of Photo Sharing  Blog, there might be another thing called 'Somoim' they seem seem to borrow foreign or English terms and put their own unique Korean pronunciation on them interweb news items or science events. I think it might be possible they have some app that cross shares posts on multiple phone blogs, Snow is Korea’s Snapchat, SNS is their term Social Networking Service written as 소셜네트워크 서비스 and 페이스북(Facebook)과 트위터(Twitter) .
Sometimes some of their bloggers link to alt tech Western platforms like medium or minds https://blog.naver.com/fxtmfxtm other times you might find a phone or email above a science article
https://koreascience.or.kr/article/JAKO … 05202.page
' Journal of the Korean Society for Aviation and Aeronautics '
This seems to be a news journalist science website sometimes these have mail address
https://zdnet.co.kr/view/?no=20210422102030
This seems to be their own version of wikipedia? They have a Youtube Musk video embedded
https://namu.wiki/w/  화성 < add these hangul characters into the url
https://brunch.co.kr/ @ iamminani/22 < add these characters to the url
This is the instagram of 'Yi So-yeon' she was on the ISS
https://www.instagram.com/astro_yisoyeon/
Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI) has a website
https://www.kari.re.kr/
Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology
http://kaist.ac.kr/
Their planned Pathfinder Lunar Orbiter, they might have a fax or telephone on this site.
http://kari.re.kr/eng/sub03_04_01.do
I believe Hyundai, Kia and Genesis are the big auto manufacturing companies, SsangYong Motor could be another but I beleiev it might have been bought out or is internationally owned, however if Ford or the Japanese plan on having a car on the Moon then Koreans probably will want to also have their car on the Moon. I believe Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI) has a building in
Daejeon, the fifth largest city in South Korea http://www.kari.re.kr/
There are also many overseas ex-Pats in the 'Koreatowns' of LA and NYC who read Korean, and a Korean diaspora in Germany, Canada and Australia but I'm not sure if these overseas Korean people would be related to people of South Korea or North Korea?

Most South Koreans I know or knew in the past had some English, could be very helpful or knew people who could translate English well.
I believe some of Korea's online social media platforms that got their unique tv and education and their own celebrities and manufacturing companies and pop stars that would make posts on their own unique sites go viral. South Korea had a truly unique distinctive social media interweb phone computer social media internet ecosystem long before the other Global BigTech companies arrived.


I also found a newmars user 'augmento' from South Korea who once posted here but has not posted again in many years

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#36 2022-05-09 17:04:50

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For Mars_B4_Moon re #35

Thank you for your (to me amazing) collection of potential access points to South Korea.

I'd missed that South Korea had an astronaut on ISS, and appreciate your showing that!

I asked Google and got this:

Korean Astronaut Program
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The Korean Astronaut Program was an initiative by the South Korean government to send the first Korean into space via the Russian space program. A ten day flight to the International Space Station (ISS) with astronaut Yi So-yeon occurred in 2008.[needs update]

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#37 2022-05-12 10:13:42

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Development of next-generation space launch vehicle proposed for deep space exploration planned by South Korea

https://www.ajudaily.com/view/20220511171216389

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#38 2022-05-27 16:58:21

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As part of the T-5 Mission, HANCOM inSPACE, initially a spin-off by Korea Aerospace Research Institute and now a part of Hancom GROUP, hosted an optical payload on Spire’s 6U satellite.
https://twitter.com/SpireGlobal/status/ … 7900981249
This was the first commercial satellite mission for a private South Korean company.

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#39 2022-06-08 04:40:42

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South Korea — Citing a “lack of technical capabilities,” South Korea has dropped the plan of developing a robotic spacecraft to escort asteroid Apophis during its 2029 close encounter with Earth.
https://spacenews.com/south-korea-cance … his-probe/
The science ministry, which manages state-funded space programs, recently ruled the mission “unfeasible” and decided not to request the $307.7 million budget it initially sought for the mission.

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#40 2022-06-13 07:22:34

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Final preparations under way for 2nd launch of S. Korean space rocket

http://yna.kr/AEN20220613004300320?input=red

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#41 2022-06-25 05:30:54

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South Korea space rocket launch puts satellites in orbit
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Sout … t_999.html

South Korea will launch a Moon orbiter in August, Lee added.

US Space Force is tracking three objects (catalog 52894 to 52896) in 695 x 707 km x 98.0 0 deg sun-sync orbit, confirming success of S Korea's Nuri launch

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1 … 6172961792

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#42 2022-07-03 17:34:23

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Can they build a manned ship?

Vid of construction and test of S.Korea's first lunar probe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bWqXTJL8o

Robert Zubrin is why most people check out Mars message boards, aerospace engineer, author, Known forMars Direct, Mars Society, The Case for Mars
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I’m in Korea, speaking at the Seoul 2022 conference. My talk: How Korea can become a leader of the space revolution.
I made the front page of the Seoul Economic Journal June 15. The president of Korea also spoke.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robert-z … 68800-fPxA

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#43 2022-07-03 18:44:34

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In terms of technical abilities the Koreans are impressive.  But there are two problems that are going to seriously undermine them:

1. Their demographics are some of the worst in the world, with less than one child born per woman.  A major population decline is now baked in for South Korea.  There aren't really any solutions at this point, other than growing babies in tanks.

2. They are critically dependant on a globalised system that allows them to import raw materials and intermediate products (often from thousands of miles away) and export finished goods, often to the other side of the world.  Korea depends entirely on the US Navy to protect those supply lines.  But the US is now retreating from this role.  The Japanese could step in, but don't exactly have a good history of cooperation with Korea.


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#44 2022-08-05 14:59:02

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Korea's Lunar Orbiter Heads for the Moon

https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-n … iter-moon/

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#45 2022-08-08 04:45:59

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Hyundai And Kia Are Building A Moon Robot
https://www.slashgear.com/943616/hyunda … oon-robot/

Car Companies Are Eyeing the Moon
https://www.autoweek.com/news/technolog … -the-moon/

Hyundai and Kia are partnering with six Korean research institutes to develop mobility solutions and technologies for the moon.
General Motors is developing similar mobility solutions and technologies alongside Lockheed Martin.
The moon gives automakers and systems manufacturers a perfect testbed for new technologies.

Kia and Hyundai will work with these companies to develop different tools to conquer the moon’s surface. This agreement will likely lean on the Hyundai Motor Group’s favorite dog-robot company, Boston Dynamics. Hyundai and Kia will be responsible for helping the team develop both the hardware and software for these lunar adventures.

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#46 2022-08-13 07:06:33

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an official site?

'8 days after launch 5 hours, 56 minutes, 38 seconds elapsed'
발사 후 8일 5시간 56분 38초 경과

https://www.kari.re.kr//kplo#

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#47 2022-08-13 07:44:31

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For Mars_B4_Moon re #46

Thank you for finding and posting the link to that (to me ** very **) interesing site!

The site is pretty simple ... one page shows where the spacecraft is in a simplified view, and the second shows where the spacecraft is in the convoluted total flight plan.

There are a few words in English, but words aren't necessary.

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#48 2022-09-01 05:08:39

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'Lunar Mission engineer at KARI making Korea's first moonshot happen.'

Danuri photos of the Earth and Moon taken recently
https://twitter.com/dirkpitt2050/status … 4670644224

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#49 2022-10-02 16:13:26

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South Korea seeks $32.9 million to launch satellites grounded by Russia sanctions

https://spacenews.com/south-korea-seeks … sanctions/

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#50 2023-08-14 18:39:44

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South Korea’s new aerospace agency to omit current flagship programs

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/20 … 13931.html

Korea’s upcoming aerospace agency — which President Yoon Suk Yeol has been pitching as the country’s own version of NASA — will not house the existing Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI) that has been spearheading Korea’s space missions such as the Nuri rocket program.

Instead, KARI as well as the Korea Astronomy & Space Science Institute (KASI) will serve as separate mission centers specializing in certain programs or areas, according to the Ministry of Science and ICT on Thursday.

The decision, announced by the ministry in its plan for establishing the tentatively named Korea AeroSpace Administration (KASA), was met with backlash from the rival Democratic Party and KARI scientists.

Critics argue that excluding KARI and KASI from KASA will only further fragmentize the system and slow down progress.

A space agency was one of the Yoon administration’s national agenda items. It was billed as being a centralized authority to bring together all the disparate elements of the current space programs scattered around in various divisions and agencies.

According to the Science Ministry's latest plan, KASA will be headed by a vice-minister-level commissioner and have seven departments for launch vehicles, space science and exploration, satellites, advanced aerospace, aerospace policies, aerospace business and international cooperation.




'Korea Astronomy Space Science Institute (KASI) is the national research institute in astronomy and space science of South Korea'
http://www.kasi.re.kr/

'The Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI) in 1989, is the aeronautics and space agency of South Korea with main laboratories located in Daejeon'
https://www.kari.re.kr/

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