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#1 2021-07-26 14:27:09

Mars_B4_Moon
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Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

They are going to need a bigger ship/rocket?

The South Koreans, they are behind other Space-Powers but as a nation these guys are a very interesting subject when it some to space flight and a possibility for future Un-manned Spacecraft. The first Korean to fly in space was a woman, a space flight professional in what seems to be a semi government semi private purchase to fly to the ISS, Yi So-yeon she stuided BioTech and Physics, Yi was launched into space on board Soyuz TMA-12 with two Russian cosmonauts, I might locate footage later of the experiments done but I believe British American Richard Garriott and NASA's Peggy Whitson may have been on the same ISS crew, I believe audio experiments, acoustic experiments food experiments and a biological experiment with fruit flies was done. Political tensions exist in the region, the tensions remain between South Korea and the North after the Korean War. South Koreans have economic rivals in Japan and China, they continue to have a strong industry with Kia, Samsung Motors, Hyundai, and Daewoo. They have expressed interest in joining or helping NASA's Moon missions. I believe they signed Artemis.

Some news
'Feasibility studies are underway for sending a spacecraft to Apophis, an asteroid that will pass near Earth in 2029.
These space exploration goals were unveiled, along with a set of other plans aimed at bolstering the nation’s space development capabilities'

South Korean leader vows ‘landing on the moon by 2030’ ....( seems to be unmanned Rovers)
https://spacenews.com/south-korean-lead … n-by-2030/

journey toward private-led satellite development
https://spacenews.com/with-cas500-south … velopment/

South Korea Seeks to Move Up Its Spot in Global Space Race
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles … space-race

South Korea’s space agency sets sight on missions that ‘won’t pay off until 2050’

https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-spac … ntil-2050/

Korean Air to explore using 747 for rocket launches
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/ko … 78.article

'creating a think tank for space program'
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210720002700320

develop over 100 mini satellites by 2031
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210618000626

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#2 2021-07-28 09:45:45

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

I certainly hope they would step forward and throw some substantial money at space. They have it "in the bank."

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#3 2021-07-28 10:56:06

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

For OF1939 ... re #2 but the topic as it relates to Expedition 17

It might take no more than a letter of inquiry from you to the right person in South Korea, to stimulate not only funding for your proposal, but the staff to fill it out.

Leadership (sometimes) consists of asking a human to do something they already want to do.

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#4 2021-07-28 11:22:05

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

Unfortunately I'm not well at the moment; recovering from a bout with Covid-19. Just released from the hospital last night.

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#5 2021-07-28 12:34:20

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

I think they are a very open Western looking democratic people but the country is not without its ups and downs and booms followed by recessions and political scandals. I know the launch thing and service is getting crowded, there are rockets out there but near space is already getting crowded, there are others in US, Europe and Asia with access to space...however if I understand S.Koreans they don't want to be left behind by the technological and industrial powers of China and Japan.

For people who check news on twitter
These are some twitter accounts follow the rockets and missions, I guess we might see updates here
https://twitter.com/Kor_Spaceflight/sta … 0929006595

rocket stack KSLV-II

RE Oldfart1939 hope all is going well, I believe the world will continue to fight the virus for sometime glad to hear you're doing ok.



This might be official but its in Korean language
https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/1392030354853142530

My Korean is very poor, I might recognize the sound of  main Cheong Geyong dialects in the South but it doesn't go much beyond saying hello, asking for food or drink, asking if people speak English and I might still remeber a Thank you Kgam-sam-ham-ni-da however I was there a long time ago I do watch the odd SKorean movie every once in a while so I guess I do recoginize the language and culture. I know there's a Mars Society in China but I did not hear of one in S.Korea maybe I read of a  Mars-Asia society or Mars Society South Asia

It's program is making some news headlines
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asi … ellites-6g
South Korea poised to expand space programme with new satellites for 6G communications and national security
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2 … ions-video
South Korea's Space Ambitions

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#6 2021-07-28 14:51:14

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

North Korea-linked hackers accessed South’s rocket developer: spy agency
https://spacenews.com/north-korea-linke … py-agency/

The breach of Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) took place in mid-June and an investigation is underway to determine further details

S. Korea develops heat-resistant material for spacecraft using specially treated carbon fiber
https://www.ajudaily.com/view/20210727135842590

South Korea has developed the world's first core heat resistant material made of lyocell-based carbon fiber that is used for the propulsion system of space launch vehicles or guided weapon systems. The material is created by carrying out a continuous heat treatment process to convert lyocell fibers into carbon fibers. When commercialized, it will reduce South Korea's dependency on foreign products.

Lyocell is a form of rayon, a fiber that can be created by using regenerated cellulose from plant materials such as wood pulp, eucalyptus trees, and bamboo trees. When Lyocell goes through a pyrolysis heat treatment process for biomass without oxygen, it can be converted into carbon fiber. Because the material does not combust during pyrolysis, it is decomposed into charcoal (carbon) and combustible gas. The biomass heat treatment process is also used to extract fuel from waste plastics. The Agency for Defense Development (ADD) controlled by the Defense Ministry said in a statement on July 27 that the agency has developed a lyocell-based carbon fiber that can withstand the heat of more than 3,000 degrees Celsius (5,432 degrees Fahrenheit). The carbon fiber can be used to produce heat-resistant parts of a rocket propulsion device.

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#7 2021-07-28 18:50:12

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

Oldfart1939 wrote:

Unfortunately I'm not well at the moment; recovering from a bout with Covid-19. Just released from the hospital last night.

Get better soon and hope that you have none of the lasting effects from having gotten it.

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#8 2021-07-28 19:04:56

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

I was lucky to get the disease treated in the early onset of the symptoms. Only 4 nights in the hospital and with just 2 on oxygen.

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#9 2021-07-30 14:30:34

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

I sure am glad you recovered as well as you have so far,  OF39.  It's really bad stuff.  Get well soon.  Hope those near you are OK.

I'm nut sure,  but I think the wife and I had it some months before we got the vaccinations.  We didn't get very sick sick,  but we do seem to have some of the long-haul Covid symptoms.  Family doctor agrees;  he thinks we had it,  too.

Just to let everybody know:  wife's surgery was successful,  no sign of surprises.  I just this afternoon got her home.

GW


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"There is nothing as expensive as a dead crew,  especially one dead from a bad management decision"

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#10 2021-07-30 14:38:03

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

Hi GW-
Pleased to hear the good news of the surgical success for your wife.

I have been very heavy on dietary supplements, vitamin D and Zinc ahead of getting the disease. My overall condition was pretty good beforehand in spite of my 82 years.

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#11 2021-08-16 11:42:15

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

S. Korea's first homegrown space rocket set for launch in Oct. as scheduled
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210812007700320

More news - South Korea’s Hanwha enlarges space focus with $300 million OneWeb investment
https://spacenews.com/south-koreas-hanw … nvestment/

Spire Global joins Hancom Group for South Korea’s first commercial satellite mission
https://www.geospatialworld.net/news/sp … e-mission/

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#12 2021-08-22 10:47:30

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

South Korea to invest $ 13.6 billion to bolster defenses capabilities in outer space
https://spacenews.com/south-korea-to-in … ter-space/
Samsung has its own AI-designed chip. Soon, others will too
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08 … 1&start=80

Hyundai Mobis to Invest 1.3 tln Won in Hydrogen Fuel-cell Plants
http://koreabizwire.com/hyundai-mobis-t … nts/197216
Korea to invest 1.6 trillion won to develop military satellite technologies
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation … 40.html?fl

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#13 2021-08-24 15:45:28

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

Satrec Initiative aims to build world’s highest-resolution optical satellite
https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210818000790
South Korea and KAI want to reach the Moon
https://www.aviacionline.com/2021/08/so … -the-moon/

a new book about the development of space to this day and into the far future...
...
Zubrin's book?
http://m.blog.yes24.com/reznoa/post/14900353

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#14 2021-09-09 04:52:50

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

"South Korea’s First Lunar Orbiter to be Launched in August Next Year"
http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/art … dxno=75748
South Korea joined the Artemis Accords in May this year. The agreement concluded in 2017 by NASA, the European Space Agency and the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency is to build a lunar gateway by international cooperation. The high-precision camera of the Korea Pathfinder Lunar Orbiter is to collect lunar surface data as a part of the accords.

South Korea has test-fired a ballistic missile (SLBM) from a submarine becoming the first country without nuclear weapons to develop such a capability...I'm not sure if this will be much good for space exploration, I do know the planetary society wanted to once launch a Private Solar Sail mission from a Russian Sub. Probably worried about North Korea, the DPRK politics, the fall of Kabul in Afghanistan and  a way to decrease its military dependence on the United States?
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14435148

Korean Moon Missions?
https://thediplomat.com/2021/09/south-k … r-orbiter/

S.Korean Spaceflight on Twitter: Wet Dress Rehearsal of the KSLV-II is completed! The vehicle is in good condition, and is now ready for flight. A small problem with the launch pad air pressure system is found, but there will be no change of the launch date
https://twitter.com/Kor_Spaceflight/sta … 2330700804

NASA cam on Korean missioon, NASA delivered their ShadowCam imager to South Korea (for KPLO lunar orbiter)
http://shadowcam.sese.asu.edu/posts/1041

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#15 2021-09-14 18:04:38

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

No mention of human space flight manned rocket...
...yet

South Korea seeks $553 million space budget for 2022
https://spacenews.com/south-korea-seeks … -for-2022/

South Korea greenlights Hanwha to utilize lunar resources
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210909000764

With restrictions lifted, South Korea launches $13B space power scheme
https://www.defensenews.com/space/2021/ … er-scheme/

I wonder if Koreans plan to go commerical like Firefly Aerospace for example which Conducted 1st Test Launch of Alpha Launch Vehicle or maybe they will buy from Space-X or perhaps there is an element of Pride in the own Nation and their own self sufficient Aerospace industry or maybe they want not to miss out on NASA's exploation missions or its a matter of National Security for them?
A US company Spaceflight for example claims will be ferrying payloads from Orbit Fab, GeoJump to lunar orbit next year
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/spa … 15869.html
South Koreans or Republic of Korea was one of the first to Sign Artemis

Targeting first flight on October 21st
https://twitter.com/Kor_Spaceflight/sta … 5298611206


Online social media youtube vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhHHf3w0-M
vehicle static test.

Animation Video
https://twitter.com/kari2030/status/1436576271853441026

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#16 2021-09-15 06:22:40

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Re: Will South Korea become a player in Mars probes, human flight?

https://www.planetary.org/space-missions/kplo

Korean Pathfinder Lunar Orbiter (KPLO), South Korea's first Moon mission

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