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#1 2015-10-20 02:36:59

martienne
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What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

I only just became aware that several astronauts involved in the lunar landings as well as some Russian cosmonauts of the past have claimed that they saw UFOs. Some of the most senior US astronauts have also said that there was possibly "Aliens" observing the Lunar landings.

I want to clearly state that I am not a UFO enthusiast and I would normally dismiss UFO claims without any consideration, but it's the quality of the people reporting this, that surprises me.

Astronauts themselves, had a lot to lose by making these types of statements (their entire professional credibility).

Seems that there'd be no motivation for them to publically speak about any possible UFO experiences, except that they genuinely believe it to be true and want the truth to be told.

Perhaps I'm missing some obvious motivation, or perhaps these people are either mentally unstable, or were the victims of some kind of illusion on temporary hallucination.

Finally from the perspective of any potential alien (....with that not said I am a UFO fanatic..) it makes sense that mankind's first space flight might be something they'd be interested in observing...
Just curious to hear other people's take on it....

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#2 2021-06-19 10:57:48

Mars_B4_Moon
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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

An official report will come out it seems, they have no evidence pointing to ET, but they can’t rule out ET either, because...its classified???

A special science secret project experiment or one part of the military seen something in the sky that they can't yet identify

Not aliens....could it be a militray experiment drone or classified satellite....or More UFO or UAP stuff

Nasa starts investigation into UFO recorded by Navy pilots who are ‘sure that they saw something real’
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl … 60856.html

Report: NASA investigating UFO sightings, agency chief says
https://www.space.com/nasa-investigatin … ill-nelson


Lunar Landings?
I'm not sure but I know NASA Astronaut Gordon Cooper was big into the whole Fireflies and Aliens thing. It might be arrogant to think we understand everything out there so maybe there was a phenomenon, an electrical event like 'Ball Lightning' it would seem real Sighting do happen. Some Lights or Particles like Glenn's space mission were thought to possibly be pieces of the capsule’s heat shield disintegrating.

Last edited by Mars_B4_Moon (2021-06-20 09:06:30)

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#3 2021-06-19 13:10:05

louis
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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

In some cases claims about what astronauts saw are exaggerated or distorted. It would be best if you gave a link to one of the claims.

Some astronauts have certainly seen UAPs. But in this case it turned out to be Russian urine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47ahpZWKHF0

One of the best pieces of evidence for a UAP phenomenon was video taken from orbit showing something appearing to rise up from the Puerto Rica region at incredible speed. See this from about 02:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxDsVe64rq4

martienne wrote:

I only just became aware that several astronauts involved in the lunar landings as well as some Russian cosmonauts of the past have claimed that they saw UFOs. Some of the most senior US astronauts have also said that there was possibly "Aliens" observing the Lunar landings.

I want to clearly state that I am not a UFO enthusiast and I would normally dismiss UFO claims without any consideration, but it's the quality of the people reporting this, that surprises me.

Astronauts themselves, had a lot to lose by making these types of statements (their entire professional credibility).

Seems that there'd be no motivation for them to publically speak about any possible UFO experiences, except that they genuinely believe it to be true and want the truth to be told.

Perhaps I'm missing some obvious motivation, or perhaps these people are either mentally unstable, or were the victims of some kind of illusion on temporary hallucination.

Finally from the perspective of any potential alien (....with that not said I am a UFO fanatic..) it makes sense that mankind's first space flight might be something they'd be interested in observing...
Just curious to hear other people's take on it....


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#4 2021-06-20 09:17:34

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

Some crazy conspiracy sites have claimed UFOs landed and the USA or Germans or Chinese or Russians are Backward Engineering some alien ship...maybe David Icke, infowars, so called Leftwing Truther or Right leaning Drudge Report, Coast 2 Coast type stuff, the radio station website Coast to Coast AM is an American late-night radio talk show, it has a weekly listening audience in excess of 10 million listeners, it will often push pseudoscientific ideas, fringe theory or paranormal stuff like Bigfoot,Telepathy, Ancient Hidden Aliens, the Occult Rituals, Alien Abduction, Ouija Board, Loch Ness Monsters etc

Some other news

Pentagon whistleblower says UFOs have meddled with secret US nuclear weapons facilities and even forced some offline
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … ities.html

43% of Americans Are More Interested in Aliens After Pentagon UFO Report
https://www.newsweek.com/43-americans-a … rt-1598804

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#5 2021-06-20 19:49:57

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

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#6 2021-06-26 03:36:06

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

Long-Awaited UFO Report Opens the Door Wider to Sharing Strange Aerial Sightings
https://www.universetoday.com/151633/lo … sightings/

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The FAA’s clearance came in the form of an update to Virgin Galactic’s five-year-old commercial space transportation operator license, the company said in a news release. The upgrade was based on an analysis of the results from Virgin Galactic’s most recent suborbital test flight, conducted in May at Spaceport America in New Mexico.
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Long-Awaited UFO Report Opens the Door Wider to Sharing Strange Aerial Sightings
UFO encounter video

After months of anticipation, U.S. intelligence experts have released a report citing 18 incidents since 2004 in which unidentified flying objects — or unidentified aerial phenomena, to use the Pentagon’s term — appeared to demonstrate breakthrough technologies.

The nine-page, unclassified version of the report doesn’t describe the incidents in detail, and doesn’t attribute them to aliens. But it suggests they’re not linked to existing U.S. military technologies.

The point of the report, produced by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in response to a congressional mandate, is to assess the potential threat posed by the anomalous aerial phenomena reported by U.S. military fliers over the years, whether you call them UFOs or UAPs.

Intelligence experts said they didn’t have enough data to get a firm fix on the nature of 143 out of 144 UAP reports that were filed between 2004 and this March. The one case they said they could resolve “with high confidence” was attributed to a large, deflating balloon.



Pentagon UFO report: Not enough evidence to rule if extra-terrestrial life exists or not, officials say

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/pentagon-ufo- … 00070.html

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#7 2021-06-26 16:39:02

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

Pentagon Task Force on Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon – Key Take Away Messages

https://www.leonarddavid.com/pentagon-t … -messages/

“Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get” – Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump.

Today’s release of the Pentagon’s Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force offers these unclassified messages:

“The limited amount of high-quality reporting on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) hampers our ability to draw irm conclusions about the nature or intent of UAP.”

The UAP Task Force considered a range of information on UAP described in U.S. military and Intelligence Community reporting, but because the reporting lacked sufficient specificity ultimately recognized that a unique, tailored reporting process was required to provide sufficient data for analysis of UAP events.

Different explanations

The UAP Task Force report says that multiple types of UAP require different explanations:

Airborne Clutter: These objects include birds, balloons, recreational unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), or airborne debris like plastic bags that muddle a scene and affect an operator’s ability to identify true targets, such as enemy aircraft.

Natural Atmospheric Phenomena: Natural atmospheric phenomena includes ice crystals, moisture, and thermal fluctuations that may register on some infrared and radar systems.

U.S. Government or Industry Developmental Programs: Some UAP observations could be attributable to developments and classified programs by U.S. entities. The task force was unable to confirm, however, that these systems accounted for any of the UAP reports they collected.

Foreign Adversary Systems: Some UAP may be technologies deployed by China, Russia, another nation, or a non-governmental entity

Other: Although most of the UAP described in our dataset probably remain unidentified due to limited data or challenges to collection processing or analysis, we may require additional scientific knowledge to successfully collect on, analyze and characterize some of them. We would group such objects in this category pending scientific advances that allowed us to better understand them. The UAPTF intends to focus additional analysis on the small number of cases where a UAP appeared to display unusual flight characteristics or signature management.

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#8 2021-06-26 17:35:22

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

One comment:

People often say "Why don't these aliens land in Time Square instead of only showing themselves to people in remote locations!"

That's not really an issue.

There is a very primitive tribe on North Sentinel Island that the Indian government have decided to leave alone.
They could of course decide to send in the India Army and occupy the island but the government feel they are in a guardian role in relation to this tribe. To create close contact would make the tribe susceptible to disease and to cultural implosion.

If governments on Earth can exercise this sort of self-restraint, there's no reason why alien visitors cannot.

Perhaps aliens are aware of similar development paths of thousands of planets with many planetary civilisations destroying themselves through nuclear war or other weapons of mass destruction. This would certainly explain why they might have suddently "appeared" in the late 1940s and why they seem particularly interested in nuclear facilities and major weapons systems like aircraft carriers. They may have an ethical policy of non-involvement in our lives except for readying themselves to prevent wars involving weapons of mass destruction.

It's a rather comforting thought...


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#9 2021-06-26 18:36:05

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

The Tom Hanks "forest Grump" must have had a box of assorted filled...

If we are having trouble identifying objects on land from orbit we are going to have more trouble with them moving at high speeds....

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#10 2021-07-14 09:44:40

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#11 2021-07-27 04:35:32

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

Project launched to look for extraterrestrial visitors to our solar system
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/07 … lar-system

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#12 2021-08-24 15:27:33

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Re: What do you make of alleged UFO/Alien claims during Lunar Landings?

The new reality of UFOs: An interview with journalist Leslie Keane
https://www.space.com/ufos-are-real-les … -interview

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