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ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

Registered: 2004-01-28

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

SOMEONE GOOD IN MATH CALCULATE THIS FOR ME.

Please calculate how much energy would be released by your exploding 5 cubic-mile ball of methane and oxygen. Also it is has ten millions times Earths atmospheric pressure to start with?

Cobra Commander

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Before proceeding, why?

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ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

A neat theory about the deep impact mission!

Cobra Commander

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

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GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Uh no. I can do these calculations easily, but I will not do them if you are just making more fanatic prophises about Deep Impact making the comet blow up and hit Earth or somthing.

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ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Lets say the probe hits a gas pocket of this size. What size of explosion would this create? I know this sounds to big but it can scaled down to smaller sizes if needed!

GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

First, why would this at all be relevent?

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ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Don't know untill I have the answer?

GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Wrong answer.

There must be a reason you want to know how large the explosion would be, probobly if it would be dangerous or not.

Why are you so completly desperate to believe something bad or doomsday will happen because of Deep Impact? Why?

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ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Because y is a crooked letter! Thats Y! Come on man give it up!!!

GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

I'm not going to feed your wild parinoia anymore Errorist.

If there were a very large explosion due to Deep Impact, then the whole rock would just explode and become harmless probobly.

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ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

It ain't no parinoia. Just a theory? What if? No sickness at all!!! Actually, I am certified sane by the FBI!! How about you?

Cobra Commander

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Actually, I am certified sane by the FBI!! How about you?

:laugh:

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GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Your "theory" is simply not grounded in reality at all. There is no possible chance that deep impact will threat the Earth. None. Zero.

There are tens of thousands of asteroids and comets in the solar systems and the Oort cloud plenty big enough to wipe out the Earth, and you are panicing over one that we know isn't going to give us any trouble.

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ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Just show me the magnitude of the explosion!!Whats the big deal then?

GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Simple. Because you will go bonkers and think that it will explode and change its orbit and crash and hit the Earth and stuff.

If you aren't willing to believe that there is no threat when science says there is no threat, and won't accept any evidence to the contrary... you will take my data and conjur up some wacky doomsday senario and I would just be making it worse.

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[i]"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those that do not have it." - George Bernard Shaw[/i]

[i]The glass is at 50% of capacity[/i]

ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

I just want to see what if? They have not done calculations on this as far as what I have read so far!! You may be making it better not worse!! Who knows? :band:

GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Considering the use of annoying smileys, I doubt it...

They have not done any calculations because the idea is absurd that it is really a big ball of liqud methane and oxygen coverd with a thin shell of icey rock, and it COMPLETLY has ZERO chance to hurt the Earth even if it did.

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[i]"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those that do not have it." - George Bernard Shaw[/i]

[i]The glass is at 50% of capacity[/i]

ERRORIST

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From: OXFORD ALABAMA

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Well, they do know methane does exist in them so the chance is not zero!

GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

A giant ball of liquid methane, which is intimatly mixed with a large amount of liquid oxygen, which did not blow up for some reason over the eons... which would somehow be ignited by Deep Impact... that would propel the big rock or its fragments to intersect the cosmological keyhole of the Earth's orbit... and at the exact instant that the Earth would be at that point in its many million mile circut around the Sun?

Errorist, there are some things in life which are so improbable that they are impossible. I will not entertain further insanity about this idea.

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[i]"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those that do not have it." - George Bernard Shaw[/i]

[i]The glass is at 50% of capacity[/i]

ERRORIST

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

GCN,
It doesn't have to be that large of an amount of stored energy to fracture it into bits, chunks or pieces in the case of a Nitrogen and Ogygen reservoir. It is just a theory and one that should be looked at before sending projectiles into the comet at 23,000mph. It also doesn't have to send a chuck this way. It could send a chunk into an asteroid and then the asteroid could be deflected this way. Once you have started billiard ball collisions who knows what might happen? It would be better to land on it then study the thing before slamming into it.

GCNRevenger

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

NO Errorist, no study would be nessesarry nor should be done. This is because too many things which are unlikly would have to happen.

The probability that large pieces of the rock would go on to strike another rock are astronomically low, literally and figuritivly, reguardless what the thing is made of.

Then, one of these pieces would have to hit another rock of substantial size, which is also extremely unlikly.

Then, one of these pieces would have to intersect Earth orbit, which has bascially a zero probability.

Then it would have to intersect our orbit at the precise time that the Earth is at that region for there to be a collision.

If there were a 1 in a 1000 chance, which is an incredibly high 00.1%, of each these things occuring, and the secondary asteroid collision produced, say, a half a dozen large fragments... Do you know what the probability that this would happen and the Earth would be hit?

0.0000000006%

As you can see, when you start stacking up improbability after improbability, the liklyhood vanishes. This is considering a 1-in-1000 chance of each thing happening, which clearly is stupidly high... if I were to put realistic numbers in such calculation trees, I couldn't keep track of all the zeros.

Errorist, the hallmark of inteligent life is the ability to reason and to think objectively and rationally. Right now, you are not exibiting any of these traits... if the probability is vanishingly small then reasoning, rational people ignore it. There is a much greater risk that you will be killed before you finish reading this post by a crashing airliner, but are you worried about that?

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[i]The glass is at 50% of capacity[/i]

Shaun Barrett

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

"Exploding ball of methane", eh?   ???
    Yeah, I once sat behind someone like that on a flight to Melbourne. (Phewww! )   ???

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Palomar

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

"Exploding ball of methane", eh?   ???
    Yeah, I once sat behind someone like that on a flight to Melbourne. (Phewww! )   ???

:laugh:

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Ian Flint

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Re: Exploding ball of methane

Don't you guys (and gal) love how GCNRevenger and ERRORIST bicker like the Odd Couple! :laugh: