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#1 2008-04-12 14:46:49
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Re: Monatomic Hydrogen
Could we liquidise Negative Hydrogen Ions? Such Ions could be prevented from slipping through the tank walls by an electrostatic barrier.
That's containment though. Ho would a rocket utilise them?
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#3 2008-04-12 15:13:30
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Re: Monatomic Hydrogen
Could we liquidise Negative Hydrogen Ions? Such Ions could be prevented from slipping through the tank walls by an electrostatic barrier.
No. No concieveable electrostatic barrier could possibly withstand the expanding force from all those negatively charged ions trying to repel each other.
Besides, even if you could, it wouldn't accomplish nothing because H- does not react with itself to form H2, as it has too many electrons. H- would also be ridiculously corrosive. What you want is monoatomic radical hydrogen, not hydride (H-) ions.
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#4 2008-04-12 17:37:35
Re: Monatomic Hydrogen
possibly, if you're going to use hydrogen Ions at all, use H+. It would take up less space, and electrons could be added in the combustion chamber. Although be prepared for densities in the fuel tank of 1 g/m^3 or less.
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#5 2008-04-12 19:12:38
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Again the same problem, the Hydrogen ions would repel each other too strongly to effectively bottle any useful mass of them.
What you might want to look at is radical Hydrogen, Hydrogen atoms with only one electron, dissolved into something else.. something solid, cryogenic, and highly inert.
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#7 2008-04-13 10:39:42
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Solid Helium? I thought that was banned under the Laws of Physics.
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#8 2008-04-13 10:47:11
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Helium doesn't become a solid under any condition.
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#10 2008-04-13 21:46:24
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Ehhh under those ultracold conditions, what we traditionally think of solids/liquids/gases is only loosely applicable.
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#11 2008-04-14 06:13:54
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You sound like you're trying to weasal your way out. 
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#13 2008-04-25 08:22:07
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Re: Monatomic Hydrogen
Could we liquidise Negative Hydrogen Ions? Such Ions could be prevented from slipping through the tank walls by an electrostatic barrier.
That's containment though. Ho would a rocket utilise them?
If you get diatomic hydrogen hot enough, it will dissociate into monatomic hydrogen. This means that very hot nuclear rockets using a hydrogen propellant have an added specific impulse advantage as the molecular mass of the propellant is effectively much lower.
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#15 2008-04-27 08:42:25
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Well above 3000K.
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