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Pretty sure firearms existed and were widespread in America 50 years ago... it wasn't their absence that prevented school shootings.
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For Terraformer re #26
Good point... your post reminded me of recent panel discussion of changes in the American psyche ...
There was a time when all levels of American society were revolted by the excesses of powerful weapons used by gangs, and constraints were imposed.
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Because it could be obtained so easily, the Thompson became notorious during the Prohibition era as the signature weapon of various organized crime syndicates in the United States in the 1920s. It was a common sight in the media at the time, and was used by both law enforcement officers and criminals.
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We (Americans) have blown past the self-constraints, so that the powers of the Thompson seem puny in comparison to permitted weapons of today.
The capability to experience revulsion seems to have waned.
I wonder if a population can experience "mental" illness. Certainly individual humans can. What is a "healthy" mental state of a population?
There are regions in South American and elsewhere in the world where what might be considered "norms" of human behavior have shifted over time.
It occurs to me that the same might well be considered for some populations within the United States.
The current war in Europe may well have arisen from a pervasive paranoia in a population.
In another topic, recently brought back into view by Mars_B4_Moon, the theme is the presence of weapons on Mars.
It seems to me that the example Mars_B4_Moon, of the absence of weapons in the stations in Antarctica is instructive.
According to the post by Mars_B4_Moon, there is only one weapon in the entire continent, and that is kept in a safe.
The level of fear of others is likely to be low in the population of Antarctica.
On the other hand, in the Arctic, bears are present and they are a significant danger, so weapons make perfect sense.
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Seems the federal checks have failed, mental checks are hidden behind HIPA, and with so many on the streets that are not in any data base no wonder its getting easier to gather as many as you want to have to do what you please with them.
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Officer accused of hiding during Parkland school shooting that killed 17 stands trial
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/o … d-30110196
Officer accused of hiding during Parkland school shooting that killed 17 stands trial
The shooter had behavioral issues since preschool, and according to The Washington Post he was "entrenched in the process for getting students help rather than referring them to law enforcement"
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2022 … -in-pre-k/
The Florida Department of Children and Families investigated him in September 2016 for Snapchat posts in which he cut both his arms and said he planned to buy a gun. At this time, a school resource officer suggested he undergo an involuntary psychiatric examination under the provisions of the Baker Act
https://web.archive.org/web/20180319212 … story.html
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Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel described Cruz's online profiles and accounts as "very, very disturbing". They contained pictures and posts of him with a variety of weapons, including long knives, a shotgun, a pistol, and a BB gun. Police said that he held "extremist" views
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The brother of a 2016 graduate described him as "super stressed out all the time and talked about guns a lot and tried to hide his face." A student who was enrolled at the school at the time of the shooting said, "I think everyone had in their minds if anybody was going to do it, it was going to be him." A classmate who was assigned to work with him in sophomore year said, "He told me how he got kicked out of two private schools. He was held back twice. He had aspirations to join the military. He enjoyed hunting." A student's mother said that he also bragged about killing animals. A neighbor said his mother would call the police over to the house to try to talk some sense into him
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In 2021, the families of the victims of the shooting were awarded a $25 million settlement from Broward County School District, after a civil lawsuit was filed by the families of the 52 victims alleging the school district's negligence was to blame. In year 2018, prosecutors released three videos that they claimed Cruz had recorded on his cellphone before the shooting. In the videos, Cruz appears to describe his personal feelings, his enthusiasm and plan for the shooting, his hatred of people, and how it would make him notorious
https://web.archive.org/web/20180530211 … story.html
Florida shooting: Beachgoers flee as nine injured
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65753335
11 killed, 45 injured in weekend Chicago shootings
https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinoi … 391b0.html
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‘We still feel he should be haunted': Parkland parents express frustration after Scot Peterson case
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/we- … e/3063202/
Scot Peterson, school cop who didn't confront gunman in Parkland, gets not guilty trial verdict
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat … 360878007/
RFK Jr comes out against gun control and blames school shootings on ‘drugs’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 51943.html
its behind adverts and a paywall but I think his interview can be found online
in a clip he the Presidential Candidate states back in his older school days he and his classmates would bring guns to their school gun club while there was no culture of mass shooting
Brazil school shooter found dead in jail cell
https://www.macaubusiness.com/brazil-sc … jail-cell/
Serbian School Shooting Has Tested Limits of Public’s ‘Right to Know’
https://balkaninsight.com/2023/06/26/se … t-to-know/
'Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings'
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/switz … 01791.html
In 2016, the country had 47 attempted homicides with firearms. The country's overall murder rate is near zero.
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Czech Republic marks a day of mourning for the victims of its worst mass killing
https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2023/12 … s-killing/
15 people were killed and at least 25 were injured in a shooting at a Prague university
Talk about nasty stuff on a social media site 'telegram' and Czech authorities are probing whether mass Russian shootings influenced David Kozak to carry out a massacre, he was reportedly obsessed with a foreign Russian schoolgirl shooter. The incident is the deadliest mass murder in modern Czech history, perpetrator was considered one of several suspects in a double murder case that took place six days earlier, but the lead investigator stated that the police did not manage to act. In 2023 a mass shooting occurred at a Russian school in one student was killed and five others were wounded before the shooter, identified as 14-year-old Alina Afanaskina, committed suicide. Five hours after the attack at the university, the Czech police released information that they had found evidence in David Kozák's house linking him to the Klánovice Forest murders. In prison letters, Viktor Kalivoda the "Forest Killer" admitted to being inspired by mass murderer Olga Hepnarová.
Prague mass shooter tied to random killings of dad and newborn — as sickening online rants revealed
https://nypost.com/2023/12/22/news/prag … -and-baby/
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Police seek a motive as Prague mourns the 14 people killed in the nation’s worst mass shooting
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Investigators believe the gunman in the mass shooting Thursday in a philosophy department building at Charles University also killed his own father earlier in the day, and another man and a baby last week.
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Students describe Mount Horeb school shooting: 'I just ran'
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2nd anniversary. Uvalde families sue makers of AR-15, ‘Call of Duty,’ Meta over elementary school mass shooting
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/uva … -1.6900484
Uvalde Families Sue Daniel Defense, Meta, ‘Call of Duty’ Maker
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment … uty-maker/
Terrifying moment supermarket shooter lights up cigar and opens fire on innocent shopper in horrifying rampage
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … ebook.html
A gunman has filmed himself opening fire in a supermarket after hunting around the store for 'someone good' - and failing to hit them.
Richard Klaff, 20, broadcast the shooting live on Facebook as he prepared for and carried out the attack on a Kroger in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
He began about 6.15pm on Thursday by lighting up a cigar in a bathroom upstairs from the Georgetown Kroger, claiming 'I'm gonna shoot 11 people... watch'.
He cocked the pistol several times before heading downstairs and wandering around the supermarket looking for the right target.
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