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#1 2007-03-07 06:54:30

SpaceNut
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Re: Shuttle: Fly Me to the Moon

I had a hard time believing that Nasa would do such a study..

[url=http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19910014907_1991014907.pdf]Feasibility Analysis of Cislunar Flight Using the
Shuttle Orbiter[/url]

Davy A. Haynes, Space Exploration, Langley Research
Hampton, Virginia, Initiative Office Center

June 1991


The vehicle would utilize the orbiter's main engines and would have a fully-fueled external tank, which will have been carried into orbit by the Shuttle and then refueled at Space Station Freedom by Shuttle-C tankers.

The results of the analysis indicate that the Shuttle orbiter would be a poor vehicle for payload delivery missions to lunar orbit. The maximum payload to a circular 100 km lunar orbit is only about 3.2 mt.

Why such a small amount of payload when a shuttle cargo bay would normally yield in excess of 17 mt? While 10 Shuttle C to refuel the ET is crazy...

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#2 2007-03-07 08:49:45

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Re: Shuttle: Fly Me to the Moon

What ever induced you to search out this mission concept? Did you, literally, or was it by chance? Well, after reading it, I think the study was worth whatever it cost the taxpayers: it shows how careful analyses of off-the-top-of-the-head ideas can be taken to their conclusions on paper and archived to be read and understand, and if not found wanting set aside without prejudice by new-to-the field enthusiasts in favour of more promising concepts. What a relief!

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#3 2007-03-07 08:51:43

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Re: Shuttle: Fly Me to the Moon

I had a hard time believing that Nasa would do such a study..

[url=http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19910014907_1991014907.pdf]Feasibility Analysis of Cislunar Flight Using the
Shuttle Orbiter[/url]

Davy A. Haynes, Space Exploration, Langley Research
Hampton, Virginia, Initiative Office Center

June 1991


The vehicle would utilize the orbiter's main engines and would have a fully-fueled external tank, which will have been carried into orbit by the Shuttle and then refueled at Space Station Freedom by Shuttle-C tankers.

The results of the analysis indicate that the Shuttle orbiter would be a poor vehicle for payload delivery missions to lunar orbit. The maximum payload to a circular 100 km lunar orbit is only about 3.2 mt.

Why such a small amount of payload when a shuttle cargo bay would normally yield in excess of 17 mt? While 10 Shuttle C to refuel the ET is crazy...

LOL!  So that's where Homer Hickam got his idea!


"We go big, or we don't go."  - GCNRevenger

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#4 2007-03-08 18:39:01

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Re: Shuttle: Fly Me to the Moon

Actually just happened onto it in a thread located elsewhere on another forum.

The last movie that I saw with the twin shuttle cis-lunar was in Armageddon with Bruce Wilis and his misfit oil rig drillers playing astronaut to blow up the impending asteriod dooming earth to destruction.

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#5 2007-05-04 16:07:30

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Re: Shuttle: Fly Me to the Moon

I had a hard time believing that Nasa would do such a study..

[url=http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19910014907_1991014907.pdf]Feasibility Analysis of Cislunar Flight Using the
Shuttle Orbiter[/url]

Davy A. Haynes, Space Exploration, Langley Research
Hampton, Virginia, Initiative Office Center

June 1991


The vehicle would utilize the orbiter's main engines and would have a fully-fueled external tank, which will have been carried into orbit by the Shuttle and then refueled at Space Station Freedom by Shuttle-C tankers.

The results of the analysis indicate that the Shuttle orbiter would be a poor vehicle for payload delivery missions to lunar orbit. The maximum payload to a circular 100 km lunar orbit is only about 3.2 mt.

Why such a small amount of payload when a shuttle cargo bay would normally yield in excess of 17 mt? While 10 Shuttle C to refuel the ET is crazy...

LOL!  So that's where Homer Hickam got his idea!


Energiya would have done a better job. Just omit the orbiter!
I remember seeing some wide, dish-shaped aerobrake disks to be launched by Shuttle-C.

One place where side payload mount beats in-line is in launcing oddly shaped outsized payloads that do not lend themselves to being top mount.

Energiya could launch a wide disk to aerobrake--but be left in space. The actual modules would be launched by other Energiya shots.

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