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#1 2006-09-19 18:54:22

FallenAngel47
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Re: 747 and 717 spaceplane

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747 spaceplane

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717 spaceplane

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=5118
Microwave research paper used for specific impulse.


The propulsion system described is *steam* derived from fuel cell waste.

The hydrogen fuel cells are run in PARALLEL to achieve the equivelent of a small nuclear powersource for a small duration of 8-12 minutes or until the spaceplane reaches PERIGEE ORBIT.

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#2 2006-09-20 04:43:52

cjchandler
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Re: 747 and 717 spaceplane

Hum I saw this on another forum a while ago... Why is using a 30% effecent fuel cell and then a 50% effecent mircowave emmiter better than using a 70% effecent chemical rocket? There's no free lunch, if you calculate your energy requirments (0.5 x mass of propellent x propellent velocity x propellent velocity ) and then the potential energy of your fuel by weight 13.333 MJ a kg for LH2 and LOX, you will find that the maximum exahust velosity possible is 5000 m/s because of the energy requirments. using fuel cells and electric steam rockets is not practical.


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#3 2008-04-12 13:07:39

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Re: 747 and 717 spaceplane

I found this idea on the internet as well, a little while ago.  Are there any other opinions?  Could there be modifications to make it more efficient?  I've seen that fuel cells are 70-90% efficient, not 30%.  Does that mean a higher exhaust velocity?


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#4 2008-04-15 14:11:38

JoshNH4H
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Re: 747 and 717 spaceplane

I think this idea would be more compatible with some type of GCNR


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