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#1 2005-10-31 12:14:43

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Re: Military thoughts of playing with mother nature

This is the older article talking of such things in the past:
Intro is from the weather thread :

With this storm (Katrinia and Rita) one must ask what has changed and global warming may only be a part of the answer. Another cause may just simply be nature. All the silt from the many rivers entering into the gulf slowly fills it in. Making it shallower as time goes on. With no real current flow to the atlantic the waters would gradually rise in temperature.

So what could we do to change this condition?

But changing in this case the ocean current is a possibility if piping of the colder Atlantic waters were pumped into the gulf.

Scientist have tried as indicated by this article.
Scientists: You Can't Modify Hurricanes

It sounds like a great idea: Let's just blast hurricanes like Rita and Katrina out of the sky before they hurt more people. Or, at least weaken the storms and steer them away from cities.
Atmospheric scientists say it's wishful thinking that we could destroy or even influence something as huge and powerful as a hurricane. They abandoned such a quest years ago after more than two decades of inconclusive government-sponsored research.

Lots of passive stuff was tried but with to no avail since the power and force are so much greater than we can create.

Perhaps even low energy nukes were also thought of but I am sure it was nixed...

Now we have a much newer article with the U.S. Military Wants to Own the Weather

The one-two hurricane punch from Katrina and Wilma along with predictions of more severe weather in the future has scientists pondering ways to save lives, protect property and possibly even control the weather

While some consider the idea farfetched, some military tacticians have already pondered ways to turn weather into a weapon.

This has a set of problems for all implications for if this technology should be developed and if it should happen to get into the wrongs hands, what then...

Now rather than a military conflict with bombs and people confronting one another the kill could now just hide and wait for mother nature to do its worst instead...

"Hurricane Katrina could cost $300 billion by itself," Eastlund said. "In my opinion, it is time for a serious scientific effort in weather modification."

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#2 2005-10-31 12:41:43

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Re: Military thoughts of playing with mother nature

The article is not well written. Also I am wondering why they are talking about generating gravity waves when gravity waves haven’t been detected before.


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#3 2005-10-31 13:45:29

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Re: Military thoughts of playing with mother nature

It appears even they do not know what the High frequency Active Auroral Research Program which is to create artificial ionized plasma patterns with megawatts of power using inexpensive microwave power sources.


From the other side of the storms aftermath is, Another effect of stagnant budgeting... and what appears the hands are out for hand outs of what they think is there piece of this pie.

Previous news article in the Katrinia thread:
[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9645908/]Hurricane Center hobbled by tight budget
‘It’s almost like we’re forecasting blind,’ one forecaster tells newspaper[/url]

Forecasters at the National Hurricane Center have struggled for more than a decade to issue accurate storm reports using broken equipment, an overbooked airplane fleet and tight budgets, a newspaper reported Sunday.

Key forecasting equipment used by the center has broken down or been unavailable for nearly half of the 45 hurricanes that have struck land since 1992, The Miami Herald found after an eight-month investigation.

Shakes head....


Follow up article:

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9878610/]$55 million more sought for hurricane science
NOAA could get new ‘hunter’ plane if Congress goes along[/url]

Lawmakers and experts said Sunday that the infusion of money is essential in the aftermath of a record-setting hurricane season that has included such killer storms as Katrina, Rita and Wilma.

The White House included the $55 million in NOAA upgrades in a proposal released Friday that would shift $17.1 billion from Federal Emergency Management Agency disaster relief accounts into such things as rebuilding damaged highways, repairing levees and fixing government buildings. The plan, which provides only a one-time cash infusion, requires approval from Congress.

While the use of funds for the protection of the affected area is a step:

The White House request also would provide money for backup power and communications to coastal weather stations, to repair damaged weather buoys and automated weather sites, and to upgrade forecasting instruments for hurricanes, storm surge and flooding.

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