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#1 2004-02-26 17:25:36

~Eternal~
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Re: Helium "Fuel"?

Does anyone know the math behind how many psi would it take for a valve one centimeter in diameter releasing helium to get into LEO...
Like...
How many psi per minute would be required to flow out of the valve to enter LEO and how much total helium psi would it take?


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#2 2004-02-27 04:05:09

Rxke
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Re: Helium "Fuel"?

Dunno, but helium is getting too expensive real quick, demand is currently bigger than production... price is rising on a regular basis...

Why helium? you want a balloon going 'pssssjtfblflblb' in a controlled way when it's near the stratosphere?

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#3 2004-02-27 15:36:04

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Re: Helium "Fuel"?

Yeah actually ^_^.
I'm working on an enviromentally safe "rocket engine", and looking for possible fuels.


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#4 2004-02-27 22:53:58

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Re: Helium "Fuel"?

Environmentally safe? There are three that readily come to mind...

1: Hydrogen/Oxygen engines, used for decades since the Apollo program and which power Shuttle. The only exaust, water vapor
2: Kerosene/Oxygen engines, which are quite clean because of the high burnup degrees and temperature, leaving nothing behind but steam, carbon dioxide, and a little non-toxic carboon soot.
3: Parafin/Oxygen hybrid engines, undergoing low-intensity development by the USAF, which would yeild aproximatly the same level of cleanliness as kerosene engines.

Other engines, ones that use hypergolics or perchlorates, are also not that bad things considerd, most of the toxic material is combusted and broken down... A well-designed nuclear engine would also produce no substantial radioactive residue.

Relying on simple pressure expansion as a source of energy to lift a rocket will get you no place fast, the amount of energy you can store is simply not useful. Chemical and nuclear engines posses far more energy per mass because of the intense thermal energy dumped into the exaust from their respective reactions.


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