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#1 2004-02-29 11:17:52

Ufo_man
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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

Spirit took pic of the "Wheel". Any idea?
[http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … 43M1M1.JPG]Spirit
Opprtunity took pic of "Arrow" pointed at BB (upper right corner)
[http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … 59M2M1.JPG]Arrow
Any Idea?

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#2 2004-02-29 11:45:07

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

Any Idea?

You should bear in mind that these are actually pictures taken by the rovers' microscopes. It's easy to think you can spot familiar shapes and symbols on them. But at this scale anything artificial is highly unlikely.

Keep enjoying the pictures tho, and welcome to New Mars  smile


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#3 2004-02-29 13:05:28

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

'The Wheel 'is a pic of a partly 'swept' rockface. Remember the RAT has these rotating steelwire bristles to clean te surface...

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#4 2004-03-02 05:19:50

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

i see the "arrow"... its on the top pointing down onto the top-right BB.

one guess is its a small area marred by the RAT operation (its the same color as other parts of the rock), or perhaps is an angular plane in the rock (perhaps the interior of one of the "veins", which i assume are shrinkage cracks (but thats a whole nuther mystery) has been exposed by the RAT).

Its interesting how the tip of the arrow impinges upon the BB like a damaging blow, as if both the "arrow" and the impinged mark on the BB were evidence that the rock had been bashed by something, perhaps a RAT...

look at the [http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … 33M2M1.JPG]before and [http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … 59M2M1.JPG]after images and you can see how much of the surface was removed.

Look below and to the left of the top right BB, about two BBs length it looks like there is a socket for a "missing" BB... its roughly the same size as the other BBs but the hole is all filled with rock or rock powder now almost blending in with the rock forms around it (is it merely a coincidental rock shape that looks like a BB socket?)... what happened to the BB? where could it have gone ??? did it get shattered and crumbled to powder by the RAT? or was it "never there"?

also notice the lower extreme left of the [http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … 33M2M1.JPG]before image, there is a dark blemish just above the hole, looks like it could have been a last point of attachment for a BB that has long since dropped off... leaving this mark. there are other [http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/1M1307 … 1.JPG.html]sockets in other pictures like this. is that dark stain dissolved BB material?


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#5 2004-03-02 05:56:23

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

Beetle on Mars?![http://anomalyhunters.com/cgi-bin/marsbbs/webbbs_config.pl?read=10623]Beetle

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#6 2004-03-02 06:04:29

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

Strange hive on mars "hexagon hole"?!
[http://anomalyhunters.com/cgi-bin/marsb … read=10608]Hive

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#7 2004-03-02 06:55:28

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

Opprtunity took pic of "Arrow" pointed at BB (upper right corner)
[http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … 59M2M1.JPG]Arrow
Any Idea?

One thing I did notice about the image is how loose the spherule on the left looks to be, it could have been dislodged by the rat when it was being scraped but it looks almost as if you could tap it out.


There was a young lady named Bright.
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day
in a relative way
And returned on the previous night.
--Arthur Buller--

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#8 2004-03-02 12:01:41

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

The partial "wheel" is the indention of the Mossbauer spectrometer instrument.

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#9 2004-03-02 12:04:41

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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

yup; Me bad... it's the 'donut' shape that's typical for the imprint of the Moss 'head'...

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#10 2004-03-02 18:14:10

atomoid
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Re: Strange "wheel" and "arrow" in new pic from Mars

Hexagonal holes from sealed vessicles on mars!  the RAT has breached containment!  Doomsday Spores have been released!!! and i thought i was concerned when the worms came out of the rock pores in the micrographs!!! so it would seem impossible based on interpolating everything to end up with data saturation but when you reasemble an approximate of its own analog, then youre swimming with the sharks!! its a heck of a lot of data processing for an exuberant armchair explorer... i guess the false dichotomy provokes the disparity that the continuum is manifold.. and what ensues... to disembark the distressed dinosaur from its destiny. the pudits say the moon is a harsh mistress. moon. haaaaarsh. mistresssss... [http://images.google.com/images?q=deadl … a=N&tab=wi]deadly [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=1 … gle+Search]martian [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=1 … gle+Search]doomsday [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=1 … gle+Search]spores [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=1 … gle+Search]have [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=1 … gle+Search]escaped! [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=1 … gle+Search]god help us now !! but i digresss...


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