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#1 2022-06-10 11:14:07

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Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

The truth is down there! Harvard scientist wants to launch an investigation into meteor at bottom of the Pacific Ocean which he believes is actually ALIEN technology
Last week, the US Space Command confirmed that a meteor that hit Earth in 2014 came from another solar system and is the first known interstellar object
Harvard physicist Avi Loeb claimed on Wednesday that a meteor that hit Earth in January 2014 is instead a piece of alien technology
The 2014 meteor predates Oumuamua, which was discovered in October 2017 by a telescope in Hawaii millions of miles away
At the time, Loeb received backlash from scientists after claiming that Oumuamua was actually a discarded piece of technology from aliens
In 2021, Loeb released a book that argued that Oumuamu is not a comet or asteroid, but a light sail – a method of spacecraft propulsion.
By GINA MARTINEZ FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 10:37 EDT, 23 April 2022 | UPDATED: 11:04 EDT, 23 April 2022
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … cific.html

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#2 2022-06-10 12:16:52

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

He's good at math and physics but sometimes this guy Abraham "Avi" Loeb seems a bit 'out there' not religion like the Hebrew University in Jerusalem but more like those conspiracy guests on JoeRogan radio.


If Super powerful Aliens are like the scifi Star Trek Q-continuum or 'Dr Manhattan' or Marvel Infinity Gauntlet Celestials, ...if they are uber super godly powerful...and if one of these aliens can just do time bending reality bending super powered Godly cartoony things you might find in a Doctor Who episode....then why would they fly all the way to Earth just to crash their UFO car... or maybe it was an unofficial visit... was one of their 4 yr olds behind the wheel?


Aliens Created Our Universe in a Lab, Scientist Suggests
https://sg.style.yahoo.com/aliens-creat … 00225.html

Avi Loeb, astronomy’s resident bad boy, suggests the universe may have been created in a laboratory.

Our supposed creators, Loeb writes in an op-ed published in Scientific American last year, may have developed the technology needed to construct “baby universes” capable of producing life.

Avi Loeb on U.S. Government and UFOs
https://www.c-span.org/video/?520305-6/ … &playEvent

In June 2020, Loeb was sworn in as a member of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST) at the White House
https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/Photos/PCAST-2.html

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#3 2023-03-12 07:25:04

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

Project Lyra Catching 1I / Oumuamua Realistically with a Jupiter Encounter and Imminent Propulsion Options

spaceref dot com
https://spaceref.com/author/keith_cowing/


Some fringe conspiracy people suggest a UFO type thing seen in a Martian photo but our Moon less friendly than Mars and more 'alien'


Space Rock Slams Into Moon, Explosion seen from Japan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNjycZDCfcU


Avi Loeb and the DoD’s Chief UAP Investigator Sean Kirkpatrick Say Solving Aerial Mysteries Requires Known Physics
https://thedebrief.org/avi-loeb-and-the … n-physics/

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#4 2023-03-14 06:24:48

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

Mars_B4_Moon wrote:

He's good at math and physics but sometimes this guy Abraham "Avi" Loeb seems a bit 'out there' not religion like the Hebrew University in Jerusalem but more like those conspiracy guests on JoeRogan radio.

If Super powerful Aliens are like the scifi Star Trek Q-continuum or 'Dr Manhattan' or Marvel Infinity Gauntlet Celestials, ...if they are uber super godly powerful...and if one of these aliens can just do time bending reality bending super powered Godly cartoony things you might find in a Doctor Who episode....then why would they fly all the way to Earth just to crash their UFO car... or maybe it was an unofficial visit... was one of their 4 yr olds behind the wheel?

Aliens Created Our Universe in a Lab, Scientist Suggests
https://sg.style.yahoo.com/aliens-creat … 00225.html

Avi Loeb, astronomy’s resident bad boy, suggests the universe may have been created in a laboratory.

Our supposed creators, Loeb writes in an op-ed published in Scientific American last year, may have developed the technology needed to construct “baby universes” capable of producing life.

Avi Loeb on U.S. Government and UFOs
https://www.c-span.org/video/?520305-6/ … &playEvent

In June 2020, Loeb was sworn in as a member of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST) at the White House
https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/Photos/PCAST-2.html

They don’t have to be Uber powerful. Fusion power or laser propulsion can do interstellar flight. A long lived alien species might not care it took decades to receive a return signal from their interstellar robotic probes.

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#5 2023-03-14 07:11:39

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

I don't care if it's alien technology or an alien rock -- if it is indeed from another system, we ought to collect it. A literal piece of another planetary system?!


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#6 2023-03-14 07:41:09

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

I suppose an obvious question to ask is, how would we know?  If the rock has different proportions of 235U to 238U, that would be a dead ringer that it formed somewhere other than the solar nebula.


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#7 2023-03-28 08:48:05

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

Avi Loeb has received a $1.5 million private grant to conduct his search for the interstellar meteorite fragments beneath the ocean’s surface:

https://avi-loeb.medium.com/a-gift-from … 2993e0169a

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#8 2023-05-16 14:10:46

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

Looks like Eric Weinstein will do the UFO thing

his name has popped up before in math, cosmology and fringe discussion on newmars

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The one note I will reiterate is that I was in Cambridge MA for about 20 years close to the time Lazar cites being there. I have had close contact with both the Mathematics & Physics departments at both Harvard & MIT. We should have many mutual colleagues over the 4 departments.

https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/stat … 0919192577

Eric Weinstein has come up with a theory in his book where he wrote about 'Geometric Unity' Physicists expressed skepticism about the theory.Joseph Conlon of Oxford stated that some of the predicted particles would already have been detected in existing accelerators such as the Large Hadron Collider. Science writer Jennifer Ouellette criticized the colloquium in a blog for Scientific American, arguing that experts could not properly evaluate Weinstein's ideas because there was no published paper.

Weinstein left academia after stints at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Weinstein was invited to a colloquium by mathematician Marcus du Sautoy at Oxford University's Clarendon Laboratory in May 2013 there he presented his ideas on a theory of everything called 'Geometric Unity'.

Weinstein coined the term "intellectual dark web" and named himself and his brother as members after his brother Bret Weinstein resigned from Evergreen State College, in response to a 2017 campus controversy.


Other posts with his name are part of controversial topics, the Weinstein names have shown up in newmars discussion but no blood relation I believe they were NASA researchers or science investigators but I think it is just a popular name and no relation to his family.
https://forebears.io/surnames/weinstein

a story of how his brother also named 'Weinstein' faced down the mob at Evergreen State College
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/ … -audience/

As a freshman, he wrote a letter to the school newspaper that condemned sexual harassment of strippers at a Zeta Beta Tau fraternity party
https://www.chronicle.com/article/The-P … led/240267

After experiencing harassment for the letter, he transferred to the University of California, Santa Cruz, where he met his wife, Heather Heying, and completed an undergraduate degree in biology in 1993.
Weinstein went on to earn a PhD in evolutionary biology from the University of Michigan in 2009.

the Eric guy is skilled at selling himself

he is a talker with skills of self promotion

some stuff he says is controversial other stuff he says could be correct

Why Is Eric Weinstein So Popular?
A possible answer from cognitive science.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog … so-popular
Weinsten's popularity may speak to our collective need for a cultural pivot, and each person's need to find a way to contribute to that pivot.
    Weinstein’s internal model of the world is a product of his own making, and this self-made worldview may appeal to people looking for change.


Another reason Weinstein is popular is that he has delved deep and come up with a compelling worldview. He also has a story to tell.
Exposure to people with self-made worldviews can inspire others to think deeply and forge their own ideas and perspectives.

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#9 2023-06-08 18:18:51

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

UFOs worth investigating despite lack of 'real evidence,' former astronaut Scott Kelly says

https://www.space.com/nasa-astronaut-sc … estigating

NASA Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Independent Study


This webpage is designed as a resource to provide updates on the UAP Independent Study.

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#10 2023-06-17 11:14:31

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

NASAWatch question at UAP Media Event

https://soundcloud.com/keith-cowing/nas … edia-event

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#11 2023-06-17 18:51:23

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

Just saw this, though I wouldn’t call Loeb a Pentagon researcher:

Pentagon UFO researcher finds something very strange in the Pacific!
https://youtu.be/JgxarjzvLOo

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#12 2023-06-20 08:34:50

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Re: Proposed search for an interstellar meteorite at the bottom of ocean.

Avi Loeb describes the search for the remnants of the interstellar meteorite here:

Corroded Iron and Volcanic Debris in IM1’s Path.
Avi Loeb
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/corroded-ir … bf317bcb0e

I’m surprised they were able to get the expedition up and running so quickly.

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