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#176 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2005-10-11 15:01:44
LO
and now this it certainly does not do for inter racial harmony.
D'ya mean harmony with black poor people ? :shock:
#177 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » New Discoveries #5 - Deep space, galactic, solar system, etc. » 2005-10-11 14:52:22
LO, Palomar of Unknown Gender 
Did you read that http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/astro-ph/0507619 ?
#178 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » cost of space elevator » 2005-10-11 14:19:00
LO
[ GEO is pretty stable.
You mean the Space Elevator is pretty stable ?
Let' argue on this point.
They say that a terminal counterweigh is tighted to SE terminal.
In your opinion, which is its orbital speed so that it would be in a straight line with the SE main station on Geo orbit ?
#179 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » cost of space elevator » 2005-10-11 03:40:47
LOFor
http://www.pa.msu.edu/cmp/csc/ntproperties/ Then go to electrical properties
Later, Phaedon Avouris [12] suggested that stable current densities of nanotubes could be pushed as high as 10000000000000 A/cm2.
At http://www.pa.msu.edu/cmp/csc/ntpropert … facts.html it says its resistivity is 10e-4 ohm-cm. Not bad, but the resistivity of copper is 1/50th of that. It is a little higher than that of stainless steel. Transmission losses would kill your efficiency (you'd lose a MW per km at 100 amps) and heat the cable to 1000 degrees. Perhaps those laser power guys aren't such morons after all?
Carbon nanotubes can behave as semi conductor or metal, depending on their structure, and conductivity can be doped.
For Cnanotubes elasticity, Cnanotubes are much stronger than steel wires, but if traction force reaches to a high value, instead of breaking out, C nanotubes will behave elastically, inducing strong oscillations in the space elevator. Altitude oscillations also mean orbital speed variations
I hope you realise consequences for a space elevator to have an orbital period slightly different from geostationnary. Earth Spacelift Station will have to let ribbons free in order to avoid any Space Elevator start rolling up around the globe.
That's a difference between froggies and US ways, Americans rush on ideas and will solve problems as they come, we'll try to study every problems before engagement. Each method as its strength and its weakness.
That's why Americans are in Iraq, not the froggies, because we're aware that winning peace is much more difficult than winning wars.
#180 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » cost of space elevator » 2005-10-10 15:40:43
Space elevator terminal is summited to Eath-Moon tidal forces twisting the cables or ribbons which are flexibles and tends to exchange energy with Earth and Moon so that its position must be maintained by permanent energy supply by motors.
The ribbon is under a lot of tension - it isn't going to be bouncing around. There was some worry that tidal resonances could cause destructive failure, but I thought a study showed it wasn't going to be a problem. You still need some active damping for sub-harmonics, but I think they can be solar powered - not free, but minor in comparison to the total cost.
The ribbon is going to be between 35000 km and 100000 km long. Wouldn't it have to be a superconductor as well as the world's strongest material? I think you are asking a lot.
All studies by Space Elevator promotors NEVER show the slightest problems, they are paid for !
100000 km long is more than 200000 km difference in regard of moon tidal action when space elevator terminal is close or far from moon. That's not a negectable action.
You cannot evaluate the space elevator costs. Nasa predictions about mass launching prices with Shuttle were total failures.
http://www.pa.msu.edu/cmp/csc/ntproperties/ Then go to electrical properties
Later, Phaedon Avouris [12] suggested that stable current densities of nanotubes could be pushed as high as 10000000000000 A/cm2.
If so, laser beam power transmission is promoted by morons
#182 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » ~* Sprites ~* » 2005-10-10 12:53:31
LO Palomar
You know what ?
I've been expelled from a self-pretending Astronomy forum because I talked about sprites and elves, and the forum admin, an ignorant, thought these were fakes.
I've been even accused to have done by myself faked NASA and /edu web pages.
I treated this admin of "big tutborn moron", so...
#183 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-10-03 05:57:11
LO
I am puzzled as well since this is not the normal French (as well as others) stance towards war like actions.
Don't you think that, France has peace corp troops in former Yugoslavia, Ivory Coast, Haïti, Afghanistan, has survey warships in the Oman Gulf.
No troops in Iraq, because french secret services were aware of no WMD and that Saddam removal would bring much more problems than his regime, as now proved obvious.
This action is also retaliations at talibans: http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/18/ … oldier.php
We struggle against algerian islamoterrorists :
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050927/wl … ststargets
While closely cooperating with US at war on terrorists
http://english.people.com.cn/200507/05/ … 94085.html
And this 10/3 Monday morning, four other suspected GIA terrorists were sent in custody.
#184 Re: Not So Free Chat » Froggy's » 2005-10-01 14:34:39
LO
French Mirages took part in a "mission of support to fire", during an operation carried out against Talibans to the south-east of ze country.
French Mirages took part Saturday 1er in a "mission of support to fire", at ze time of an operation was carried out against Talibans at ze south-east of Afghanistan, announced ze French ministry of Defense in an official statement.
"Saturdays October 1, two air patrols, made up of two Mirage FICR and two Mirage 2000 D, carried out a mission of support to fire in ze south-east of Afghanistan to ze profit of the coalition (military international) "Enduring Freedom" (immutable Freedom), indicates zis official statement."In connection with ze troops on ze ground, Mirage FICR and ze Mirage 2000 of ze detachment 'Serpentaire' were engaged within ze framework of an operation against ze Talibans", specifies ze text of the Staff of ze armies.
Since August 2005, ze ministry for Defense recalls, France deployed, at ze time of ze legislative elections in Afghanistan, an air detachment composed of three Mirage FICR and three Mirage 2000, based with Douchanbe (Tadjikistan). Two tankers KC 135 FR are also based in Manas in Kirghizistan.
Zis device is engaged in favour of ze international Force of assistance to ze safety of NATO in Afghanistan (Isaf) and of ze operation "Immutable Freedom", still specifies ze ministry. "It is suitable for carry out missions of air presence and of alarm in flight, photographic survey, support fire and in-flight refueling", it adds.
France is present in Afghanistan wiz more zan 600 soldiers within Isaf.
Zis intervention occurs whereas ze Afghan president, Hamid Karzaï, will pay Monday at Wednesday his first official visit in France, and its first displacement abroad since ze parliamentary elections of September 18, whose results will be known only on October 22.
Mr. Karzaï will be received Monday at 11H00 in ze Elysee Palace by Jacques Chirac.
:mrgreen:
Are Froggys waking up :shock: ?
#185 Re: Not So Free Chat » A380 airbus - monster of the skies » 2005-09-22 09:26:38
LO
If being able to meet Kyoto means having to drastically cut airline travel then it is a sign that kyoto is unworkable. Air travel is a vital part of the infrastructure of a nation. Moreover the airline industries are already losing money because of higher fuel prices. Perhaps we just need to bite the bullet and emit the earth is going to get warmer and there isn't much we can do about it.
I'm amazed to read from an US citizen that nothing can change, you're supposed to have among the highest enterprise spirit.
That's so disappointing :cry:
A pity from a nation pretending on world leadership.
Do you think that rest of the world admit it by your example or your military strength ?
Air transport is not the only transport mean, even if intercontinental air transports are unavoidable.
Magnet trains are an alternative, for instance. That means nuclear power plants up to supply them with electric power.
#186 Re: Not So Free Chat » A380 airbus - monster of the skies » 2005-09-21 18:08:44
LO
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 00516.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9424612/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4266466.stm
Some environmental arguments in favour of one big airplane instead of some smaller ones
#188 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2005-09-16 10:37:45
LO
Other fun : How create an X wing fighter out of Paris metro tickets.
Sorry, gotta come to Paris if you want yours
#190 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2005-09-14 08:58:50
#191 Re: Not So Free Chat » Katrina and New Orleans » 2005-09-14 08:35:41
LO
I'll bite.
We have multiculturism at all levels of government, save the highest branches of the federal government. Immigrants have been Mayors, Governors, Sheriff's, Judges, etc.
To that point of view, USA is much more advanced than here in France where immigration originated populations are underrepresented in all branches of local and national institutions. Same with women.
I'm really not proud of that, :oops: although it means that communitarism is low and that immigrated populations mix more with native populations than in USA, then their votes are sunk among native votes.
#192 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potpourri VIII » 2005-09-11 16:49:41
LO
I can only hope this is the use of nuclear weapons to ensure the destruction of other WMDs
In the case of Biological and Chemical weapons it has been thought that only incredible heat could ensure complete destruction.
In the case of a biological attack, half a dozen terrorists with biological knowledge and producing germs in any cellar can do tremendous wastes.
Is there even a way to retaliate at ?
#193 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potpourri VIII » 2005-09-11 02:27:12
LO
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 01053.html
More and more loony administration. : Pentagon Revises Nuclear Plan .
Simply means that Saddam's Iraq could have been nuked on virtual and unproven WMD possession.
#194 Re: Not So Free Chat » Katrina and New Orleans » 2005-09-09 16:21:49
Big job for dutch engineers...
#195 Re: Not So Free Chat » Katrina and New Orleans » 2005-09-09 11:21:24
Government simulation predicted 61,290 deaths
But they have the army in there. Can't they deal with the Looters now?
Sorry, John, my answer wasn't to be treated seriously
More seriously, I think that as precise infrastructures repairs haven't already be planned and are disputed, meanwhile authorities have to show their are acting.
#196 Re: Not So Free Chat » Katrina and New Orleans » 2005-09-09 11:11:03
LO
Why force people to leave that are in a dry area and have enough probles. Is it an issue with dealing with human waste or something?
Make things more easy for policemen and soldiers : all left are LOOTERS they can shoot at
#197 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » Earth Atmospherics/Weather » 2005-09-08 08:14:42
LO
More on climate
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4224272.stm
#198 Re: Not So Free Chat » Katrina and New Orleans » 2005-09-08 04:12:03
LO
DonPanic, you are being unfair: Several years ago there was a heat wave in Paris and thousands of the old and sick died because the French government failed to attend to their needs.
The french government had a worse lack of reaction with our Big Seniors Heathwave Hecatomb than thze US one for Katrina, as it took two weeks before it reacted to the eldest senors mass dying firemen and hospitals doctors reports. French prime lost all kind of an authority in french opinion, and never regained any trust anymore.
My first thought upon hearing of the incident was, "Where were the families of those who died? How could they have entrusted the health and well being of their loved ones to an uncaring government burocracy?" (Of course, I had the good manners to keep my mouth shut until you popped off with the latest hysteroid hypocracy from Gall -- er, make that Gaul.)
Do you all live with granDad and grandMa in USA ?
If they do'nt live next door but on their own, can they warn you they're thirst and heath dying, when they are not even conscious it's happening ?
There's a typical french phenomenon wich are "hollidays" About 60% froggies are in hollidays at the same time july 15 to august 15. During this, the country activity is half at sleep. Hospitals work with less than 50% crews. It's not in hospitals (where dying seniors where transported to) or in retiring institutions that number of victim was high, but among eldest people living on their own.
But nobody ever predicted that such a strong and long heathwave would strike France unlike
predictable hurricanes over New Orleans.
#199 Re: Not So Free Chat » Katrina and New Orleans » 2005-09-07 14:18:36
Is rebuilding New Orleans a good idea - New Orleans was allways at threat from the changes in climate and increased storms. Rebuild New Orleans and you may well have to do it again and again.
Except for under sea level zones, New Orleans is not the only southern coast place threatened by hurricanes.
Whith all poors evacuated, so little of them getting few nuts in exchange of their property bills on wrecks, New Orleans rebuilt by and for rich people will have all means to be hurricaneproof built :shock:
#200 Re: Not So Free Chat » Katrina and New Orleans » 2005-09-07 13:40:58
You're being too harsh.
--Cindy
Ok, I apologize
Why would it be more difficult to provide protection to people than to send army restore law and order ?
may be I'm harsh because I was aware of the lethal danger, though living 3000 miles from new Orleans, read it years ago, why not many in US administration ?
Posté le: Mar 30 Aoû 2005 21 : 17
Salut
Faut savoir que Nouvelle Orléans est en partie construite en desssous du niveau de la mer, à l'abri de digues de 5m au dessus du niveau de la mer, que la dépression de l'ouragan peut éléver le niveau de l'eau de plus de 4m, alors des vagues de plusieurs m de la tempête peuvent inonder les rues.
Vaut mieux se barrer de là vite fait
Tue August 30, 9:17pm
LO
One must know that New Orleans is partly built under sea level, sheltered by 5 meters high levees, that the hurricane depression can rise sea level up to for meters, then many high tempest waves may flood streets.
better run outta this and quick
Posted it in a french forum just before reading press awfull news.