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Everyone says that a space elevator for the moon is the ultimate solution and can be built with today's materials. Does any serious organization plan to attempt to build one in the near future? It would be a waste to develop reusable landers for the moon if the elevator was right around the corner
The elevator would be slow of limited capacity and only accessible from the poles. I reusable lunar Lander is not an inferior technology it is just a different technology.
Ok. I'm aware that Mars gravity is a third of earths, but how would this effect movement? I remember seeing a thread on this forum once about this very topic, but I can't seem to find it. If you were to step onto Mars right now, would you really "bounce" as much when you move as you would on the moon? Or, if you've been living on mars for some time, would your muscles adjust to the low gravity (atrophied) making activities such as walking around rather normal? I ask this because, stylistically, I would rather not have people bouncing about all the time in the comic.
I don’t know about bouncing like on the moon but with a third of the gravity you should be able to jump 3 times as high or better if you keep all your earth mussel mass. Of course I have no idea how people will preserver that level of mussel mass.
Assuming Christmas is still primarily a celebration of the birth of Christ, because Christ lived his mortal life on Earth, I would assume they would celebrate it every time Earth does.
I don’t know. Jesus could have a Martian birthday as well. I wonder how many Martian years it is since the birth of Christ. Is it exactly half?
I think Gingrich would be a better choice, since he had his proposal to award prizes for independent contractors achieving space goals. I have't a clue about Rudy Gulliani.
Put Rudy there then maybe I’ll vote form him because I know nothing bad about him. It is too bad Arnold couldn’t run. That would be a hoot.
It has always intrigued me that human beings are midway in size, magnitude-wise, between the Universe and the so-called particles that compose it. Could it be that conscience, self-aware intelligence needs to fall within this size region in order to function?
I am not sure how the scale of size of a life form affects conciseness. I could see there being a minimum size but as for maximum size I see it not as a limitation but as a reason for greater division between thought processes. Perhaps as the size of a mind increases it becomes more of a collective then a mind for reasons of efficiency.
I voted for McCain but surely you can come up with some better choices.
I’m curious. How interested are people here in artificial intelligence and databases? I wanted to learn some stuff about Microsoft Access and artificial intelligence. I started creating a relational database:
http://www.geocities.com/s243a/iq/iq1.mdb
http://www.geocities.com/s243a/iq/iq1.zip
There is not much in the database right now and I am working on some forms to make data entry easier. The idea of the database is to only have one peace of information per table. Thus one table could be a table of types, another table of words and another table a table of links. Each row of each table has a unique index so you can refer to the table and row with only a single number. This makes it easier to express relationships and take advantage of the relationship features of Microsoft Access.
First I want to express relationships between data. Like for instance a cat is an animal or a cat is a noun. Once a bunch of relationships are built into the database I want to see if I can ask it questions and get back intelligent answers. Anyway, I can explain my design choices or take design suggestions if anyone is interested. That is I don’t mind being the teacher student or both.
I wonder. Would the martians only get a Christmass once every two earth years or would they have a Christmass twice per martian year.
There were some plans to add to the Keck observatiry but that looks like that will not happen at this time. Judge reverses permit for new Hawaiian telescopes
After eight years of planning and courtroom battles, a judge in Hawaii has overruled a permit for up to six smaller telescopes that were to surround the twin Keck telescopes on Mauna Kea.
NASA had already pulled funding for the Outrigger Telescope Project in February 2006, but the ruling may still have follow-on effects for other telescopes planned for Hawaiian peaks. These include the planned Panoramic Survey Telescope and Rapid Response System (Pan-STARRS), which would hunt for near-Earth asteroids and comets. It is too bad all the people that made a fuss about the Hubble wouldn’t pay more attention to this because this technology is the future.
From the story it sounds like it is quite a blow to astronomy. The first optical interferometry telescope being held back. As a consequence the technology is delayed on earth and in space. It is too bad all the people that made a fuss about the Hubble wouldn’t pay more attention to this because this technology is the future.
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Hoping that all NewMars members will have a happy holiday season.
Mary Christmas to you to. I wonder if anyone has pictures of Christmas trees against the Martian sky or ice caps?
I still get hung up on how the farthest objects could've expanded so fast as to be visible only after 13 or so billion years, without having expanded at faster than light speed. I know: recent theory gets around this apparent paradox, but before this the idea that we looking into the past the farther out we could see bothered me when no such theory that I was aware of had been published.... If anyone cares to take this up before I can find out the answer, please feel free to point out the fallacy of my thinking.
Perhaps the notion that the universe was the size of a pea is misleading. If every point of the universe was expanding at the same rate and near the speed of light then in every direction you would look the universe might look small but in reality wouldn’t be small because of near infinite length contraction.
I never really thought about it that much. I don’t know if that counts as falling for it. There seems to be no intermediate choices on your poll. It was a good story though.
I was thinking about adjectives like big. When we say something is big is it inherently big or big with respect to some set. Like if I say a big cat, do I mean a lion or a cat that is bigger then the average house cat? Is this ambiguity a strength or a weakness in languages? What challenge do such ambiguities present for computers dealing with languages. What kind of solutions do people foresee?
I dont believe it
I do but I think it is more to do with stress levels then how optimistic a person is. If a person believes everything is hopeless then they could likely feel more stress. On the flip side if a person tries to hard to succeed beyond his means then that person will likely feel more stress.
The reason I don’t think the “Wow” signal is that impressive is because a race advanced enough to send us a signal should have a more sophisticated way of sending it. I searched on Google the words in the title and here is one of the first articles I found:
"A Better Way to Search for ETI Signals
by Dr. Linas Vepstas <linas@linas.org>
April 2003
Abstract:
A better way to search for radio signals from extra-terrestrial intelligences is to look for PRN-encoded signals. Such encoding techniques offer powerful signal-to-noise improvements, making communication far, far more practical than using unencoded radio signals. This search technique will prove practical in the coming decades as Moore's Law provides the CPU cycles needed for such a search. ETI know Moore's Law, and depend on it to become intelligible.
Caution: This is an informal essay, a draft; conclusions in different parts of this text may contradict themselves. This is 'thinking aloud'/doodling with"
http://linas.org/theory/seti.html
What I observe about the signal is that its intensity is well above the background noise. It could be some sudden natural phenomena but if I was to speculate it was an alien signal, it is too short to be a message. More likely it is a key. To transmit that much power above the background radiation probably would take considerable resources especially if it was transmitted from a long way away.
It is more likely that an alien race would send some sort of spread band signal so that it could be distinguished from the back ground noise and transmitted at a lower power. So the question is how to use the key to identify the weaker spread band signals. How might 6EQUJ5 we use to identify a pseudo random sequence.
I wonder if there is more of a link to the larger Huricanes, quantity of them as a result of global warming.
NASA Research Reveals Climate Warming Reduces Ocean Food Supply
By comparing nearly a decade of global ocean satellite data with several records of Earth's changing climate, scientists found that whenever climate temperatures warmed, marine plant life in the form of microscopic phytoplankton declined.
Whenever climate temperatures cooled, marine plant life became more vigorous or productive.
See I don't get why the phytoplankton can't just move north if it likes the cold,
Isn’t a large part of the problem ocean trollers tearing up the plant life that sustains the ecosystem which sustains the fish?
If time travel was to happen what would it mean? Where are the travels from the future? There are three kinds of processes that we can easily understand, causal, non causal and anti causal. Non causal means event happen not only based on passed events but future events. A perfect low pass filter is a non causal filter. If there we people or particles traveling back in time it is well beyond our comprehension today how that could result in one reality. Of course do we have one reality. With special relativity two observers cannot agree on the order of events anyway.
What if there were 10^100 different realities splitting off from a single point in time and just one of them happened to involved a time traveler arriving from the future at just that precise moment. What would the chances be of our reality being the same one with that time traveller in it? Maybe history is always splitting off anyway, whether time travel is involved or not and if someone goes back in time, the point where the traveler reenters the timeline occurs in just one of those realities.
The Time traveller would arrive in some point that appears to be the past, but would then find events unfolding differently from the moment he arrived. This model of time travel preserves free will and everything is random even if you travel back in time.
Perhaps time travel is such that all people that arrived from the future arrived from a different reality. Thus if a new reality is born from a person travailing back in time it is not essential for the same person to travel back to the same point in time within the new reality. In fact it is not even necessary of the person who traveled back in time that created this new reality to even be born in the time line of this new reality.
It is an interesting question if it is possible to have realities that are completely consistent in that the person who travels back in time to create the reality is born again in this new reality travels back in time and all events unfold in exactly the same way. Another thing to think about is if time travel is possible one might expect infinite realities and thus the probability of being born in a reality where there are no visitors from the future is zero. Of course lots of things happen which are probabilistically impossible. For instance the probability of us being born an any sufficiently small interval of time is vanishingly small.
Another question is if you travel back to the past how well can you use knowledge of the future to your advantage since each action you take to change the future can have dramatic effects on the future. Perhaps our reality is unstable and any perturbations of that reality lead to destruction. As a consequence all other realities are death sentences and that is why we exist in a reality where no one has visited us from the future.
If time travel was to happen what would it mean? Where are the travels from the future? There are three kinds of processes that we can easily understand, causal, non causal and anti causal. Non causal means event happen not only based on passed events but future events. A perfect low pass filter is a non causal filter. If there we people or particles traveling back in time it is well beyond our comprehension today how that could result in one reality. Of course do we have one reality. With special relativity two observers cannot agree on the order of events anyway.
What if we're the first technological civilization in the Milky Way? ... there may be a civilization out there which just discovered radio technology.
That may well be, but the time needed for a uniformly expanding civilization's habitat to expand across the entire Milky way is less than 5% of its age with our currently available rocket velocities. If we assume a sizeable fraction of light speed, that figure easily falls within 0.1%. Give us anything faster than light, and we can accomplish it in less than the amount of time humanity has already existed.
The only way that scarcity alone can explain that absence of local civilizations is if there's no one else flying. If you believe that the expansion of intelligent life through the galaxy will be uniform once it gets going, then you have to assume either no one ever gets out of their solar system or they've already been here. The sheer extremity of either option suggests that the assumption of uniform expansion is wrong.
Uniform expansion isn't true, or we're alone in the universe. Those are the simplest explanations.
Why would we move across the Galaxy at a fraction of C. The west was settled I’m sure slower then it would take someone to walk across it. Anyway, this is a fascinating discussion and although I’ve heard of Drakes equation before I have never heard before of estimating the probability of life based on expected rates of expansion. What a fascinating idea.
This sounds almost precisely like the spinning superconducter experiment Evgeny Podkletnov was pulling in a Helsinki lab in the early 1990's. Definitely zero point energy related. "Crank science" coming out of the closet by the backdoor, after being secluded for decades by the powers that are, just in time for the world waking up to the prospects of a looming Peak Oil crisis?
Zero point energy doesn’t give you something for nothing. No need to draw peek oil connections.
The article only makes sense since a reclined chair reduces the load on your spine because the chair supports some of your weight. There are of course drawbacks since taking weight off you back reduces mussel mass and bone density. An interesting article none the less. Now I can explain to my boss why it is important for me to lay back while I work.
Out of curiously how old is our sun relative to the other stars of similar size in our galaxy?
This work can be considered as the first work of literary criticism and the first history of Italian literature. Moreover, Dante shows his ideas about the problem named "questione della lingua" in it. He states that it’s time to use Italian dialects also in literature, and not only in spoken language. Latin should be used only in technical works (such as essays).
To explain these ideas, he first distinguishes between the natural language (locutio prima) which everybody learns directly from his parents, and the secondary language (locutio secundaria or gramatica) which is the language used to study and learnt at school (that is the Latin). In Dante’s opinion, the first language is nobler than the other, since it’s more natural and is better for art. He assures that a technical language is needed anyway, but this language (the Latin) must not be used in literature. Then, Dante explains how, according to the Bible, many different languages have derived from an ancient unique language (to do this, he use the story of the Tower of Babel). Dante wants also to choose which language is the best to be used in literature. He analyzes all the Italian dialects (they were 14) but he rejects them all, since they’re not good enough. In fact, he thinks that the ideal language should have four basic features: it must be eminent (illustre), cardinal (cardinale), aulic (aulico) and courtly (curiale). Since such a language doesn’t exist, Dante states that it must be created by poets and used by them in their works.
http://www.greatdante.net/vulgari.html
It sounds like quite an interesting book
Maybe after I learn Spanish I’ll try Italian. I did want to learn mandarin and Arabic first but Italian could be easy to learn after learning Spanish as there looks to be a lot of written similarities. As you can tell I have grown more interested in languages lately. Part of my motivation is to be able to learn from original sources. My other motivation is I work in a very multicultural office.