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So if you landed five people thats 100 Billion per year just to keep them alive? Are they eating gold bars?

Your paycheck? Where does your pay check come from, what is it made of and where does it go? Most of your earning power comes from the society you live in. Remove your self from society and see how great a living standard you can earn yourself working individually.

Are you going to spend your time refining medicines to look after yourself or filming your own television shows to watch on a tv you manufactured yourself.

Its not your paycheck at all, its recognition of your contribution to society most of which is leveraged on societys contribution to you. 'Taxes' are a fun way of allowing you to continue to contributed at the inflated rate you do. You actually take home more than you 'earn' based on effort alone which really amounts to about $10 per week. Taxes allow you to have a pay check. No taxes, no paycheck.

It is mentioned a few times. And, I guess its creation and destruction are mentioned in there, and to some our responsibility ot colonize and terraform it comes from the Bible too.

Capricorn One, now that was a fun movie.

Escape from Mars was disturbing because I watched it right after I encountered the Case for Mars for the first time. It looked like it was going to be horrible sci-fi wise but it turned out to be Mars Direct-ish down to using SRB's on tethers for artifical gravity if I recall.

The US is drawing on the rest of the world, meaning your spike is going down as the other markets rise to meet it.

When US production comes back to pre-Katrina levels, the question will be whether world production has risen in the intervening gap. Global consumption will have risen, so either more production is found or we are seeing the begining of the end of cheap oil.

Fun to watch.

Around here you can go faster provided your horse is fitted with anti-lock shoes.

The last adjusted number per barrel was $185 for a barrel of crude. We're only at $70+ at the moment.

The thing is, there is no expectation of it going down, ever.

Might it actually be cheaper to dump the shuttle and ISS now, and to use the monster booster to launch a single shot spacestation that incorporates the international components? Could the same economics that apply to replacing the Hubble rather than servicing it also apply to the ISS? All the science gets done, we have an on orbit way-station with a long life time ands we save a bunch o cash.

Oh and we have a Monster booster.

Shouldn't they have used a total of, say fifteen or 30 engines? Not 300+. Maybe they mean main engine burns...

True freedom is the right to do unto others as I wish without effective judgement or reproach.

Like America, but as a person.

Hey Yager.

Ever wonder why so many civilisations added 5 days to their calendar in ~701 BC?

Fascinating link

Listen to hour 6a & 6b. This is fairly mainstream stuff.

Also the moon was possibly formed from a collision. There are pretty much no craters on Venus but not because of the atmosphere, looks more like massive vulcanism.

That thing is Massive. And made out of steel? Saves a pretty penny on launch pad costs. Imagine launching the ISS twice over in one shot, and for less than the cost of a shuttle.

23 Metre fairing ain't to shoddy either.

Not like the Nexus though, the Nexus was meant to be recoverable!

By the way the reason nuclear stuff has a really bad name in the pacific is because all the great powers tested their great sodding weapons on us. It pretty freaky having an island disappear (with a crater left in the ocean floor bigger than the original island). If you're going to spray toxic fumes everywhere launch out of Fresno or some place.