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#76 Re: Meta New Mars » The great crash » 2017-07-05 23:51:42

Good News!  I have recovered the old database from the crashed server!  I found another set of files that I was able to restore into an old version of MySQL:

1. I set up an Azure VM running Ubuntu, compiled the old MySql version (5.0.51a) from source, copied in the files and voila!  All the old tables were available from the mysql command line.
2. I upgraded that instance of MySQL to 5.6 (the latest one), and installed Phpmyadmin.
3. I exported all the data using Phpmyadmin.
4. Right now I am importing the data into the web host we use for the Mars Society, and am setting up the old version of phpBB that the forums used when they crashed.

With luck, I should be able to convert this new instance of the crashed board to FluxBB, so that I can prepare & import the years we don't have on here.

I also have the old Wiki which I will also work on after this.

Wish me luck!

#77 Re: Meta New Mars » Ideas for NewMars.com / History Lesson » 2017-06-16 18:43:40

Hi Louis,

I'm always eager to get feedback -- good or bad.

From your comments, it doesn't seem like you are very familiar with the Mars Society and what we do.  Our main site is MarsSociety.org.  We have many projects going, of which NewMars and these forums are only one of them.  The NewMars site we just rolled out is primarily designed to showcase Dr. Zubrin's writings which appear on other sites.  We'll be adding to it as time goes on.  I think you are referring to the Mars Society logo at the top of the NewMars page, correct?  Maybe we can make it a little bigger, but we've had the same logo since 1998 and it has become our brand at this point so we are likely not going to change it.

We are huge fans of SpaceX and Dr. Zubrin has had discussions with Elon & his team on many occasions.  We are actively researching how to settle Mars through our analogue research station program.  For more details on this, visit our sites MDRS and FMARS.  We are currently planning an expedition to the FMARS in July, and I am working with the Internet Task Force team to build out a new version of the FMARS website right now -- it should be done in a couple weeks or less.

Thanks,

#78 Re: Meta New Mars » Reviving an Old Tradition » 2017-06-15 21:55:05

Hi SpaceNut,

I'll spend some time this weekend cleaning out the non-posted users.  Just FYI, there are a bunch of security checks in place to ensure these non-posters can't do anything bad to the site.  Tweaking all the settings & technology to ensure that only real people that intend to contribute and not to spam is an ongoing effort...

#79 Re: Meta New Mars » Ideas for NewMars.com / History Lesson » 2017-06-15 21:39:45

We just rolled out an update to the design of the main page of NewMars.com.

We have a young gentleman named Khan from the Internet Task Force to thank for putting this together.  He is a hard-working and skilled volunteer from the nation of Bangladesh, and has been helping us out with our various technical projects at The Mars Society.

Thanks Khan!

#80 Re: Not So Free Chat » Ask Robert Zubrin *Official Thread* » 2017-05-17 21:37:12

LOL Dave.  Let's prioritize these bc I don't want to overwhelm the moderator (Bill H.)

#81 Re: Not So Free Chat » Ask Robert Zubrin *Official Thread* » 2017-05-14 21:17:39

I emailed with Bill Hargenrader and he likes the idea of having Dr. Zubrin on regularly to answer these questions, but it will depend on Dr. Zubrin's schedule.  So keep the questions coming!

#82 Re: Meta New Mars » NEW MARS RULES » 2017-05-12 18:57:20

Hi all,

Today we banned two long-time contributors due to their lack of decorum and flagrant violation of these forum rules.  Please take a moment to review these rules and ensure your posts are adhering to them.

Thanks,

#83 Meta New Mars » Ideas for NewMars.com / History Lesson » 2017-05-07 23:54:20

jburk
Replies: 7

Hi all,

I am so glad these forums are going strong since I helped to restore them back in 2011.  Thank you all for your participation and making this a great destination for folks to "talk shop" about Mars exploration and settlement.  As Dr. Zubrin said to me back in 2011, "New Mars was once a great forum, and can be so again!".  We have definately proven him correct.

I have been working quietly for the last couple years on a couple of ideas to restore the main website NEWMARS.COM to... "something".  Would love to get your ideas as well.  It could be a place to host interesting articles, or have some type of "news index".  What do you think we could do with it?

Just to give you some background/context:
The Mars Society was founded in 1998.  Back then, NewMars.com was launched as the official magazine of the Mars Society.  You can see what it looked like here, which featured an article ("Teacher, Teacher") that I wrote about the Seattle chapter's efforts to get the word out at a local science teacher convention.
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/199812 … ewmars.com

At the time the site "New Mars Journal" was maintained by Richard Wagner, an author and friend of Dr. Zubrin's.  It was kept up to date for the first couple, formative years of the Mars Society, but the last update to this incarnation of the site was done on 01/19/2000. 

Sadly, the site was dormant (& stale) for over a year until it was resurrected by Adrian Hon, who was an active member of the "Youth" chapter and based in the UK.  He reorganized the site from the "field journal" format into a more modern web discussion forum plus articles on the main page.  You can see the first snapshot of this site that the Wayback Machine saved here: https://web-beta.archive.org/web/200201 … ewmars.com

This version of NewMars continued for approximately six years until 2007.  Towards the end, there was no recent content so the site had a lot of whitespace, but the forums were still going strong.  Last snapshot here: https://web-beta.archive.org/web/200712 … ewmars.com

The website was revamped on 01/05/2008 with a simple "blog-style" homepage, but continuing the forums, and adding a "wiki".  This revision was underwhelming, as reviewed by longtime contibutor SpaceNut: "Nice to see a new front page, but what will it bring to the forum or cause that New Mars is all about?  MarsDrive has also done the same and while the numbers of people are slowly finding the site are increasing the needed support for the cause has not gone as well.  This new front page reminds me also of the spacepolitics site. It combines the news with those that are willing to comment on it rather than the old topic forum concept. Both ways have there pros and cons as I have sen from visiting both styles."

The homepage was not updated until 09/06/2008 with a post about a new Mars Society project headed by Tom Hills called Tempo^3.  You can read the details here: https://web-beta.archive.org/web/200902 … rs.com:80/ 

This was the last update before "The Great Crash".  In early 2011, the server that hosted the Mars Society website as well as the New Mars website & forums suffered a major server crash which brought everything offline for a period of months. 

I rejoined the Mars Society in July 2011 as Webmaster & IT Director and I immediately set about to improve the overall technical situation.  A previous volunteer had moved the Mars Society infrastructure to Google Apps, which I expanded and streamlined.  I worked with a great company called Dreamhost who donated free web space & infrastructure to the Mars Society.  Utilizing their help, I rearchitected all of the DNS/nameservices under the Mars Society domains including NewMars.com.  I also began helping the various Mars Society chapters, task forces, and projects to revise their websites.

Around this time, Dr. Zubrin uttered the quote mentioned above, and I got in contact with Josh Cryer, who had been the forums admin for several years (and continues to volunteer in this capacity to this day).  We setup & restored the data for the forums that you are using today.

Since that time in late 2011, Josh Cryer and other volunteers JoshNH4H and SpaceNut, as well as myself, have kept the dream alive and the forums going strong.  We are at almost two entire decades now of having a Mars Society presence on the web using this domain.  What will the next decades bring for NewMars.com?  We'd love to hear your input...

#84 Re: Not So Free Chat » Ask Robert Zubrin *Official Thread* » 2017-05-07 22:54:30

Hi Josh,

So just to confirm -- none of the questions in this thread have gotten answered?  If so, I will fix that.  Why don't we leave this thread open one more week for any new questions, and I can send a single note to Dr. Zubrin to get all of these answered.

#85 Re: Not So Free Chat » Ask Robert Zubrin *Official Thread* » 2017-05-06 10:12:57

Thanks, Dave. I was more asking the other people since this thread was open 4 years ago. smile

#86 Re: Not So Free Chat » Ask Robert Zubrin *Official Thread* » 2017-05-05 16:36:01

Did anybody on this thread get a response to their questions?  If not, I can send these to Dr. Zubrin.

#87 Re: Meta New Mars » NewMars.com Technical Error Reporting » 2017-04-05 22:48:23

Hi Martienne,

I'm sorry but I cannot read your image.  Can you describe what the error message is?  Also, what OS are you using with Firefox?  I am writing this message on Firefox (on MacOS) and I am not experiencing any problems with the board.

Thanks,

#88 Mars Society International » 2017 Mars Society Convention » 2017-02-18 17:06:45

jburk
Replies: 7

The 20th Annual International Mars Society Convention will be held at the University of California, Irvine on September 7th - 10th, 2017.

More information will be posted here: http://www.marssociety.org/conventions/ … onvention/

You can register for the convention here: http://www.marssociety.org/convention-registration/

#89 Meta New Mars » Spam-related User Deletion/Cleanup » 2017-02-18 14:30:38

jburk
Replies: 6

Hi all,

Due to a large number of spam accounts that have been created recently, we have purged the database of all users who registered but have never posted.  I also elevated several accounts that seemed like real people.

I have removed the requirement to be approved prior to posting.  New users should be able to post but we will monitor these entries to ensure there is no spam.

If you had a user account before, and have never posted to the forums, it is possible that your user account was deleted in this activity.  Please go ahead and re-register for a new account.  Let us know if you have any problems. - webmaster@marssociety.org

Thanks,

#90 Re: Meta New Mars » New Mars Journal site coming back up soon. » 2017-02-18 14:29:42

We are still working on a design for this site's root page.  If you are interested in helping out, please drop me an email.

#91 Re: Meta New Mars » NewMars.com Technical Error Reporting » 2016-03-05 11:25:52

I changed our hosting so that the site is always without the "www.".  Apologies for folks that have to login again because they were only using www, but this should prevent some of the errors and double-logins that people we experiencing.

#92 Meta New Mars » New Mars Journal site coming back up soon. » 2015-10-06 11:37:30

jburk
Replies: 1

I am working with Lucinda (new Mars Society Executive Director) and Michael Stoltz on a new version of the New Mars Journal (formerly the root of newmars.com).

We plan to have the New Mars Journal resurrected as the online magazine of the Mars Society, in particular highlighting the writings of Dr. Zubrin.  He recently wrote a National Review article which we republished on the main Mars Society site here: http://www.marssociety.org/home/news/?p … -can-do-it

We need design help right now to build out the new site.  If you are interested and have design skills, please send me an email.

Note, these forums will remain in place and unchanged since they are a valuable asset for the Mars Society.

Thanks,

#93 Re: Meta New Mars » Wiki » 2015-10-06 11:31:58

I took down the Wiki because for some reason the database was missing and the wiki page was throwing an error.  Not sure how long that has been the case, since I haven't checked it for a few months.  Also there was really minimal usage from the time I put it up in April until the error started.  As an aside, we don't have the older wiki content anywhere except on archive.org.

If anybody violently disagrees with this decision, please reply to this thread.

#94 Re: Meta New Mars » Wiki » 2015-04-05 10:28:31

I installed MediaWiki on http://newmars.com/wiki

I will slowly be restoring the wiki articles from places like https://web.archive.org/web/20090612204 … /Main_Page

#95 Re: Meta New Mars » The great crash » 2015-04-04 22:40:29

I would be interested in recreating the wiki, if nothing else for archival purposes, so if you can extract out those articles it would be useful.

#96 Re: Meta New Mars » NEWLY REGISTERED USERS MUST BE APPROVED BEFORE THEY CAN POST. » 2015-03-31 00:35:06

Last week I did a mass delete of most usernames that have never posted... 99% were spammers.  I will go through the folks that have only posted once and if I see any spam in their profile I will delete them too.  No mercy smile

If I accidentally deleted you, please re-register and drop me a note, I will restore you.

#97 Re: Meta New Mars » The great crash » 2015-03-31 00:32:33

Yep, the idea is that if we can recreate the schema of the database at that time, we can "replay" back the logs in the mysql-bin.* files and get a revived database.  Then, from that revived database, we can prep an import SQL file to restore the missing posts in this forum.

If you can come up with the exact schema including datatypes I can set up the database somewhere on the newmars.com domain.

#98 Re: Meta New Mars » The MarsNews.com Thread » 2015-03-19 19:42:45

There is a date for each article in the red heading stripe just above the title of the article.

#99 Re: Meta New Mars » The MarsNews.com Thread » 2015-03-19 15:09:56

The new MarsNews.com website has been launched!  (Version 4.0 - March 19, 2015)

http://marsnews.com/

Post your comments here or by emailing contactus@marsnews.com

#100 Re: Meta New Mars » The great crash » 2015-03-14 00:58:07

SpaceNut, can you clarify?  Are these some FluxBB codes that are being inserted into each post?  How would we go about removing them from each of the older posts?

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