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Don't tell me that.  Clark has pretty much convinced me that affirmative action isn't so bad, and I was deathly opposed to it before.

This is true, but I still find my parent's beliefs to be what I find true.  My parents are far less conservative than I am, if this is any indicator of how they raised me.

Hmmm... all this anger towards a complete stranger.  How do I twist things around?  When am I disrespectful to other people?  The rest of us can have civil debates, but you just have hatred and obscenities to spray.  Get a life instead of harassing some teenager that you've never even met.  I really regret telling anyone my age now, because you'd be singing a different tune if I hadn't.

And, like Jesus, I'm going to turn the other cheek and walk away George.  Have a great weekend! 

Full of Baloney... kiddo?  Sure, everyone gets drunk at some point in their life (just like many people will get high), but only a small part of the population does their drinking to get swanked.  MADD and AA are there to support and deter that minority.  And what's wrong with listening to what you parents say?  My dad's a former drug addict and alcoholic, thank you, and all he has to say is that it's some pretty bad stuff.  I would look even more "f___ing stupid" if I didn't trust the advice of someone who's been there before.

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bologna-  n.     a large, lightly smoked sausage, usually made of beef, veal, and pork   

Have a great weekend, George! 

I don't understand clark.  Was that a response to my last post?  I've been saying that North Korea's real threat is that it doesn't play by MAD.  That's why we should disarm them.

Weren't the 60's goofy?  I mean, like hiding under your desk or under a newspaper during a nuclear attack would save you.

Okay, clark.  Just remember that the Soviet Union eventually collapsed, and that Marxism died a long time ago (I'm sure it's still alive and well in your mind, clark  )

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But don't the white people living in the ghettos experience the same thing?  Don't they have the same poor education, the same two-timing fathers, and the same role as income providers?  It's not black.  It is mostly about where you live and the opportunities you have... But don't forget.  George Jefferson "moved on up" to the East side (yes, yes, he's fictional, but many people do the same thing all the time).

I live in a middle-class house in a rich, Arizona vacationer's neighborhood.  We know this rich family that has two kids, and they both go to private school.  I go to public school, and I am still MUCH more informed on issues than either one of them will EVER be (sorry, I'm trying to be modest, but even they admit it).  They get poor grades, and there's nothing that daddy's money can do to erase that.  They might be able to have their parents pay for college, but it won't necessarily be a good college, and there is a surplus in our society of meanless college graduates (ie Philosophy major from a party college).  But I can rest at night knowing that I don't need my parents' money because I worked to get to where I am, and I'll do okay for myself in life.  It's not like I was born into wealth (remember, my dad's the UPS man and my mom's a teacher).

Nice post, clark.

Even better quote.  But I live near (not in) a trendy ski/mountain bike town, so I'm really not the person to ask about gay tolerance.  Everybody I know is pretty cool about it.  Plus, my uncle's gay, so I've kind of grown up with it.

Hey clark!  You might as well pay up the $5 for the concessions treaty.  The Bush administration has promised NOT to us concessions as a bargaining chip.  And the US says it doesn't want to fight with the North Koreans.  Good thing for me we didn't have any bets about the invasion being a bluff (oh, that's right... I've been telling you guys that all along)

Can you make lube out of coconut oil?

They aren't inferior; they pose a threat.  As a powerful, soverign nation in the position we are, we have a right to contain possible aggressors.

And clark, you're not being held hostage.  You're just hiding under the shield.

Who's bending the words now, Cindy and Proteus?  Haven't I told you already soph that I (and every sane human) view women and minorities as equals?  That's why I get so pissed off when I hear about affirmative action.  We view them as equals and we get shoved down into a hole.  I feel like I'm the whipping boy for the slave-owning Americans of the 1800's.

Don't you think that men have a difficult role in society?  Read some books about how boys are being raised now and find out.  It's not okay to be boyish; it's labeled ADD and treated with a big dose of Riddelin so that the parents don't have to deal with it.  Sure, women still have to fufill the role of mother and spouse, but those are biological.  It's not like we can say, Well, you hold down a job, so you don't have to fufill any family roles.  It's not like modern men don't help with (or perform entirely) the dishes, cooking, laundry, kids, errands, etc.

We decide who lives and dies by harnessing aggessors (ie North vs. South Vietnam, North vs. South Korea, Iraqis vs. Kurds, etc.)

I hate it when people lose all faith in humanity.  I read this stupid poem about how we'll end up paving everything over and placing white cubes for buildings to make everything homogenous, and then we'll all walk barefoot through the grass and eat eels by the light of the moon.  Bight me.

If it weren't for those 2000 ICBMS sitting in their silos, you'd be toast right now, soph.  Be grateful for them.

Thank you for comparing my religion to your dog, clark.  That makes me feel good inside.