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Appears to be an old water pipe of some kind, and probably not abandoned, considering the wet trail of soil leading from it.
The steel pipe tends to be straight and then curve on an angle, and l don't believe that Curiosity's reflection plays a part in this, since the landscape behind this, is present, (not the martian landscape, and blue hills, as we usually see).
Another rare image of Mars reflected back in a rock.
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Curiosity is on the right, and the usual blue mountains in the distance and blue sky on the left.
There also seems to be some metallic cylinders in the side of the mountain, (water storage, most likely).
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Top image Curiosity being reflected back l think and more green stuff, that should not be there, the rover certainly didn't come with it.
Lower image, a pool of water, and Curiosity wheels being reflected back.
The other interesting point is l was hoping to get a glimpse of some yellow or orange on the landscape in the last few images but Curiosity stops taking shots when the sun is setting, eventhough it is nuclear powered!
Kind of hit the jackpot today.
This isn't Curiosity's reflection, and is a machine of some kind. Since it is near the water, (next image) it probably has something to do with that?
There is also what looks like a structure of some kind, (bottom image) and some dust being thrown up by something in the distance, eventhough there is no dust movement anywhere else, hinting at something moving about.
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Second image shows water, or a stream, hard to see, but it is there.
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posted images in #43 show sedimentary comglomerate rocks towards the upper left in the first image and in the second crossing more in the middle.. These are only formed in water....
posted image in #45 shows middle broken across the layering of what I think is a slate type rock
Thank's for that information Spacenut.
Maybe this is nothing or more writing, and pictures?
The red arrow eventhough looking like an artificial object is actually part of Curiosity wheel section, being reflected back, (the black thing on the left is the wheel).
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There hasn't been much lately, but this caught my eye.
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The rover has turned around so the sun is at a different angle.
But this reflective rock still shows the rover, (arrow) the green tingle that should not be there, and the martian clouds.
I know that these are clouds since the rovers mast cam is in front of them, and they look dark underneath, (dark clouds, rain)!
More to come when l find anything worth posting.
This reflective rock shows part of the rover, but also shows since the sun is setting that creamy clouds are also present. Hopefully the images will continue, before sunset, and l add some more evidence to the orange/red sunset, similar to Earth.
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Finally we see one of these weird rectangular, very reflective rocks on its side. Impossible to tell if this is artificial or not.
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Nice tire images in the soil but the sharp edges are possibly just how the soil compacts as one of the topics for mars recently indicated that its good for a thin 1 inch thick brick via compression/ compacting of it by just a small mass.
True, to a point, compression takes place on the moon as well, and all of the edges are sharp, (first step on moon) due to very fine particle compression, but Mars with much larger particles, less likely.
Ok, another day...
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Not sure what this is, a handle of some kind at best guess?
I don't believe that it is Curiosity's reflection.
And this....
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Just got lucky that this image was next, (relates to the court case) and shows that the soil Curiosity is going over is damp.
Impossible to get clumping like this with bone dry soil, (some moisture has to be present).
So Mars has a blue sky, moisture in the soil and green stuff all over the place, sounds pretty dead to me.
Someone came across this recently..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9ZddD2EPXE
Most of this can be dismissed although intriguing, but the white fungus on the wheels, strongly implies moisture.
I know you can still have salty moisture, but since Mars seems to have so many puddles about, rain also seems to be likely.
You cannot have salty or saline rain!
Another glimpse of how Mars really looks.
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The clouds or sky are hard to make out, but the blue/purple mountains, (that mars isn't supposed to have) and green on the landscape that mars definitely isn't supposed to have are clearly visible, (well, the colors are).
Curiosity has no green on it, so it isn't coming from there.
The thing on the right is Curiosity or part of it.
There seems to be a taboo on Mars having life on it, even though NASA has announced this...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 … lien-life/
Very high chance that Saturnian crabs and such are on this small moon a billion miles further away than Mars is from our sun.
Mars is in the habitable zone, and Hubble, early Viking images are at odd's with NASA data and most of its images!
Or maybe it is all of the Mars sci fi movies that are giving some the willies about this subject?
Best to let real evidence dictate your beliefs, or when NASA finally owns up, you will be in a room with many, but there is no safety in numbers for his one.
NASA has said they made a mistake with colour on their first lander: Viking 1 & 2. They corrected the colour using images of parts of the lander. Subsequent landers have a colour calibration target to ensure they don't make the same mistake. If you feel they still don't have colour correct, Ok. I've seen some images that are far deeper red that others, indicating they still have to watch the colour.
However, all 3 rovers record sunset on Mars, the sky is blue near the horizon, when the Sun is near the horizon. The reason is sunlight travels through more atmosphere. Hubble images will show atmosphere only on the edge of Mars, where light again has to travel through a lot of atmosphere. Images that have been colour correcting using a rover calibration target show the Mars sky is salmon pink near the horizon when the Sun is high in they sky, but the sky is much more dark and with a blue tinge directly overhead. Again at sunset, the sky near the horizon close to the Sun appears blue. So it depends which part of they sky you're looking at, and position of the Sun in the sky.
The reason is Mars has a lot of fine dust in its atmosphere, which tends to tint the sky the colour of that dust. But directly overhead there is thin atmosphere, so not much dust. When the Sun is near the horizon, light is more direct from that direction, less diffuse. So stronger influence from gasses of Mars atmosphere, and from the atmosphere acting as a prism. Less effect from diffraction and reflection from dust.
If you think NASA still needs to correct their colour adjustment, Ok. Have at it.
Ok, you partly got me there, l have not seen a mars sunset in reflective rocks, but have seen bright yellow/orange light in some of the rocks, so it is an educated guess.
I know the fine dust point, Spirit and Opportunity, have about 20 years worth of images, some color ones are at ground level and some on hills, but None of their images show a blue sky. Curiosity lands there and several appear, after a few years there.
Dust storms last a year on Mars at worst, so that cannot be used as a reason for the gaping hole in the blue sky issue. Neither is NASA's latest apparent fact that when Curiosity is on a hill then the blue sky is more obvious. The other two rovers took a good part of their panoramic image's on hills, and they where all as red as ground level.
As for the red filter being difficult, to get right, fair point, but look at Russia and the probe they sent to Venus. Temp, that can melt lead, and crippling pressures, but for the short time it was there, it took perfect color images of the landscape.
Based on NASA, their images should have been yellow, since the yellow atmosphere, (3 times thicker than ours) is yellow.
JPL - Mars Exploration Rovers: Revealing Mars' True Colors: Part One
https://mars.nasa.gov/mer/spotlight/spirit/images/Cal_Target_040115174644.jpgUsing the calibration target on each rover, scientists have a good knowledge of how to adjust colors according to the circumstances found by the rover cameras on Mars. Scientists saved half of the material for the silicon colored chips on the calibration targets, so they can make comparisons and accurately measure how the rings and chips on Earth are reflecting light on Mars.
How accurate are the final colors
Before sending cameras to Mars, the team took more than 100,000 pictures in a vacuum chamber on Earth that simulates martian conditions. They experimented with different levels of light entering the lens, depending on the angle of sun or amount of dust in the air. They then fine-tuned the cameras to respond correctly to temperature changes or anything else that might cause the instrument to vary.
"It's crazy how many pictures we took with the Pancam on Earth, but those images were essential to finding the answers on Mars," Jim recounted. Using a "calibration target" with green, red, blue, and yellow silicon swatches and rings of varying shades of gray, the team monitored how those colors changed under different lighting and environmental conditions in the laboratory.
Each rover carries its own calibration target, and is regularly instructed to take pictures of it. With their earth-bound experience, scientists have a good knowledge of how to adjust colors according to the circumstances found by the rover cameras on Mars. They know how much sunlight the three rings of gray, black, and white reflect on the calibration target in the different filters. They also saved half of the material for the silicon colored chips on the calibration targets, so they can make comparisons and accurately measure how the rings and chips are reflecting light on Mars.
Through all of these color corrections, the unprocessed raw images are not affected, and no science is compromised. In fact, there are many interesting things that can be learned about the surface and atmosphere by studying how their colors change during or between each day.
That's nice, and l guess that what you are saying is that all mars images are red, and blue sky ones are a fluke, which must mean all Hubble images have serious technical issues, since they all show a blue atmosphere?
Eventhough NASA shares them with the media when they become available.
I guess that means that NASA are stupid, lol.
I have researched this to death,....!
have a nice day!
Our resident conspiracy guy.
Conspiracy no, l just follow the trail of evidence.
Looks like more water.
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And more rocks with green on them. well, small rocks.
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Sol 549-550
https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/
Mast Camera, (down the bottom).
The rocks blue hue could be from lithium salts which under the blue sky would appear with the shadowing of blue.
The image on the bottom of the post is frost coating the ground for sure.....
True, to a point, but there are also very reflective rocks showing a blue sky.
It was my understanding that NASA's first guess at colour balance was soon proved to be wrong when someone noticed that the apparent colour of some wiring on the rover was incorrect. When this was corrected the sky appeared pink. They have stuck with the corrected colour balance ever since.
No, the first Viking images were correct, then NASA got spooked, and intentionally set all of the moniters to red. A tech, guy thought that that is incorrect and turned them all back, he was then chewed out and told he would be fired if he tried that again.
Every single Hubble image showing Mars Always shows a blue atmosphere, as does any astronomer pointing their telescope towards mars, abeit more blurry.
This stems back to the 1957 report on how would the US population react to news of alien life. And mass rioting, looting and such would ensue, so after NASA sent viking there not expecting anything and finding organics in the soil, a blue sky and green stuff on the rocks, they hushed it up.
And have been doing so ever since. But they are also intentionally giving us hints, (monitor in other room, the occasional blue sky, and Hubble images) but giving us hints in a "if you don't want to know, then you can dismiss it" kind of way.
But this is leading to full disclosure, which is inevitable, Elon Musks Mars satellite and probe, and then rover will blow the lid on all of this, and do so with HD images, instead of the crap we currently have to work with.
I think an combination of elements escaping mars atmosphere and even hanging around for a brief period containing Hydrogen will show a blue tint especially water.
post #16 image 3 has what looks like an ash tray about mid way up the left side of the image sticking out of the ground.
The water traits are all over the mars images as sedimatary layers well worn and blown by time.
post #25 the 8th image in the lower left corner you can see the rovers tracks that have been laid down in the lose soil.
There are many rocks that are fractured by the climate cycle change of what was warm to sub freezing temperatures.
What puzzles me is the blue hue to the sand and stones as to the element that will cause this. I know on earth that this is coper oxides that will do this but are there others?
The many rocks that are or have round edges are water weathered while the sharp edged are due to others striking them or from fracturing. So mars had some pretty strong winds and rains for a period of time....
The blue hue seen in the rocks is the sky or a lot of rocks on Mars are reflective. I know NASA, but there is a lot of evidence to support this...
I took this screen image just before NASA removed it from this video online, (also including third party) you can still watch this one, but this part is frozen. Or the part showing live video of Curiositys decent showing a blue sky in the background, although the first image we got were b/w. Then color later on, showing virtually no blue sky.
And the 2004 Spirit, Opportunity press release, (this cannot be found on any NASA sites) showing a blue martian sky.
Quite ironically this image was reddened a few days later.
And the first Viking images, before NASA got to them showed something similar.
Overwhelming evidence that Mars has a sky like ours, but as to why NASA keeps up the act? Probably has something to do with the fact that you need at least 17% oxygen in an atmosphere in order to create a blue colorization.
And Earth has around that much, so, it opens up a lot of doors.
First we have some poles of some kind, and a farm.
I am sure that this is Curiosity's reflection, but what is causing it, probably not a rock.
A rock with green algae, growing on it.
Alien creature, probably not.
Some more artwork, l can say that since it is drawn over evenly spaced lines. And some more of those power lines, (there must be humans there).
The martian airport type platform stands out in this one.
Another road and cars.
And a likely martian statue.
Phew, that is it, now l can get back to scouring new images.
And Hubble again...
This one shows a closeup of the plant life or forests, it could just be algae, but forests is more cool.
And this. when you compare Mars rim with ours, Earths blue atmosphere is actually thinner than Mars. I recently showed this to someone and he literally did everything he could to dismiss it.
So much so that l could only think that this individual was logging on from a padded cell.
Sure the idea that Mass Media have been lying to us for years on end, is a worry, as is NASA not saying a thing about it.
And the thought that Mars is earthlike and has an advanced civilization on the surface as l type this is a scary thought. But an even scarier thought is not being able to accept obvious evidence, and acting more and more insane to ignore, or dismiss it.
I will post new stuff next, and will try to cut down on big, blurry images, (unless warranted) and include the image reference number, (right click on image and then properties).
Young Grey, alien putting his hand on the rover, left hand side, smaller, res, image) and taking a closer look? I have studied this to death, and can confirm that it is very unlikely that this is the rovers reflection of the camera turrent. This, the next image, and the ones in the video l first posted show that three alien races, (one humanoid) are on Mars as we speak.
And just like on Earth, a youngster needs to be a accompanied by an adult.
This is Not Curiosity's camera torrent! How do l know, the camera turrent on Curiosity does not have black and white stripes on the pole, (it is grey).
It also seems to be wearing a gold crown or decoration of some kind, parent most likely. And yes, definitely no gold on Curiosity at all.
So we see local inhabitants all over the rover, and not a peep from NASA or mass media.
They have it down to an art form by now! ):
Phew, just tried to initiate a conversation with some individual who were adamant that the blue around Mars are clouds.
One particularity naive person insisted that this image was false color, and changed, and this and that, anything but the obvious!
So clouds around the rim is fine, but it doesn't explain the blue around the entire planet?
Or if correct then images like this raw one, are,.....umm, the entire sky are clouds apparently?
And all other blue sky images are made of clouds? Apart from the supposed ones NASA claims are photoshopped, groan.
I don't know whether it is fear, but it probably is. Blue sky, denotes up to 20% oxygen, that denotes a strong possibility of life and even worse intelligent life.
But individuals that cannot see what is in front of them, and try to make out it isn't there, personally l cannot understand people like that. A good scientist does not ignore evidence because it will keep him up at night, he would be a fool if he did.
But NASA trying to patch up their 30+ years of lies, with more lies, is discuisting, but individuals who just lap it all up, and do not think about it, and the gaping holes, lost for words.
Ok, rant over.
As for the aliens on Mars, if there are three races living there now, you would expect familys to be common, and also likely that some would take a closer look at Curiosity. The next few images show some.
Post soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xjHCHR5_50
Interesting video showing how a Drone type device could fly off a rover and go exploring.
Interesting, but more of the same.
Always interesting to see photos of Mars.
I thought one of the most interesting ones you focussed on was the "cog" like artefact which did have a rather fossil-like appearance to me.
Have you ever looked at photos of Mars analog landscapes on Earth e.g. the red iron ore deserts of Mauritania to see what sort of images you can make out there? It would be a good check on how grounded your speculation is.
Yes, good idea, l have seen some blurry stuff that turned out to be nothing, and blurring a bridge might help to reduce speculation. but my time is limited, so it is easier to post it and let the observer, decide.
I believe that NASA is fully disclosing to us now that Mars is Earthlike and had or has intelligent life on it, (l tend to think that it is now) but doing so in a cannot be 100% sure kind of way.
That way the ones that are scared of another Earth in our backyard, can go to sleep at night, and others can piece the plausible or likely evidence together.
But l would say that NASA giving a press conference and telling the world that life is on Mars, (or finding artifacts on one of its moons) is highly likely within the next 20 years.
PS had a closer look at the one you mentioned, and the cube is actually Curiosity's reflection, but the wheel, is not.
A water pumping station of some kind, and the pipe sticking out, is unlikely to be a natural formation.
Natural formation, or someone scraping some shapes into this rock?
More proof that Mars is wet, (the reflection is just visible).
Mars when the sun is setting, there are little, long shadows since the landscape is mainly pointing at the sun, and or NASA got to it?
Spotted this in the distance, l know blurry, but blurry white squares with black in the middle. Might be blurry apartments?
More water that apparently according to NASA isn't there, well, apart from the joke on the side of a crater, (they drive past rivers, and we hear nothing).
This is why l see so many reflective rocks on Mars, very shiny, almost like solid silver.
While the images are interesting they do little for investigative deduction of what is there as they are to pixelated just magnify them only slightly and allow for panning of the larger image to allow for others to think about the possibilities of what it might be for ourselves....
Ok, but remember these are old pics, once l am through these, l will keep the mag, down and provide the original reference number.
More bridges, sure looks that way?
More possible water flows.
Not sure what this is...
This is pretty cool, a carving into the stone, that seems to be depicting hanging up grapes or fruit of some kind, (probably from Mars ancient past).
Smiley face, perhaps.
A bridge with cars going over it, most likely.
A simple drawing of Curiosity, looks like it.
This probably isn't a face.
Looks like a shiny crystal.
And some footsteps.
This image demonstrates just how reflective some rocks are on Mars. And the possible distant city helps.
Martian dirt roads, sure looks like it.
Hard to tell what this is, but best guess is it is a mirror like panel reflecting back part of the rover, and the dark part is what is holding it up.
An example of real sky color and false, as well as a reasonably good reflection of Curiosity.
I think that this is Curiosity's reflection, but if not, then a machine of some kind.
Found all of these white, blocks in the distance, or city. Before that we have these giant tubes spanning something? A road or river, most likely. It is evidence like this that implys that Mars is inhabited now, instead of something that looks pristine for half a million years, (less likely).
Then we have this,....it is reflecting back part of Curiosity, and the wheel on the end is not natural.
These are probably reflective rocks, hmmm.
Last one is most likely showing dust devil on Mars, fascinating.