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The rover drove past somegreen thing today.
Lower image shows the landscape, hills and sky on the right, and some green plant, Licken on the left, (probably growing out from the rock, but hard to tell?
Top image shows a green blob with the white/blue sky behind, (the CP shows lime green).
And this one gives us a better look at these things.
CP shows strong to lime green, so these things are organic whatever they are.
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I havn't found any birds to date, eventhough they should exist, here you go...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w3nEuiRHS0
Probably an Eagle.
Ok, some more juicy tid bits, and the best til last.
These blobs are plants, (the CP give off a strong green) so a bush suspended by a tall trunk?
Another real Mars image, with plants growing up, blue hills, and the first decent look at some rain clouds. Mars had overwhelming evidence that rain was present, but it was hard to find some decent evidence, until now.
The thing in the middle may be a tree, but the things on the left are the rover.
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The first appears to have had 2 gaseous bubble bursts from under the fractured sand.
It could also be the rover, running over the ground near the disturbance, (without checking l think that the rover weights a ton).
A little different today, no plants, but...
Could be some old steel structure, but it is also reflecting this, that looks like weird sculptures along this object, (l put up another rocks to show that this isn't the rock details, and the CP does not show green.
I can make out a man doing something and an animal depiction, with what looks like a rabbit on two legs, with a not surprisingly Egyptian feel, (there are rumors that an Egyptian type race was on Mars 100,000+ years ago).
These sculptures are on several rocks, so no rock details make this up.
And one may even be depicting the first harvest, as one idiot l keep running into keeps saying, lol.
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Would it be possible to give the original nasa links to each image.
There are some real interesting stuff in some of them not being over magnified.
Here are the ones l am presently going through, unfortunately there are quite a few here, but most sols are a lot less.
https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra … ra=MAST%5F
I only look at the color square ones, and ignore the b/w and rectangle shaped ones, (they are a lower res,).
But l couldn't do it for each one, as it would become too labour intensive.
Thanks.
Ok, more plants.
Unmistakable overcast sky, and the two green things are not the rover.
The green thing on the right definitely isn't the rover, and is something similar to a palm.
Overcast sky and plants, and the purple/blue color is l believe the distant hills, (as this color shows up in two images in the same image).
This is the real Mars, clearing rain clouds, and the sun poking through some mist, or rain?
Mist or rain on a planet with 1% of our air pressure is of course impossible.
And some images seem to show exposed pebbles, or recent rain falls, which is no surprize.
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Not much today.
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Plants, overcast martian sky.
I would like to think that the shapes below are three people, but it is probably just a plant, (CP shows green here and there).
Although the top, left one showing a martian sky and weird plants is still reasonably cool.
H.G. Wells would flip, if he saw these, lol.
Almost missed this, this is a ref, rock in post #411, (last image, rock on the right).
And yeah, mind blowing.
Blue sky, purple/blue mountain white rocks and tree's in the middle and on the right,(probably white oak's, looking at the trunk colors).
The mountain seems to keep going on the left, with hints of green and more tree's on the horizion.
There is also a hint of blue on the right, could be an oases?
But this isn't an illusion
More obvious signs of damp sand.
And more...
The slightly greenish things in the ref, rock, (top ones) which give off strong lime and dark green in the CP are plants.
The ones in the middle have roots growing out from the soil, with a long stem and the main growth or possibly giant flower/s up top.
Weird.
Is this accurate /real or hidden .. it depends on whether you have two eyes, and enough gray matter behind that to discern one color from another!
Either way it is very unlikely that green rocks, (well forget about rocks) green deposits, could or would do this.
If space images show green, then it is the evidence leading to the quacking duck.
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I would like to say that the things on the right are plants, but the CP shows no green, so probably just rocks.
But the storm clouds in the sky, are self evident.
The sun is setting and these weird things that might be plants are about, but the CP is inconclusive, or the rock overall has dark green on it, as well as these things, so they may or probably are plants.
But this one shows an area with recent water flows, and some moss or licken clinging to life.
These greens were only present in small areas, so this area probably only floods or get's rain one or more times a year. Probably frequently during the winter months.
You will also notice that only the areas with plant life are still maintaining an obvious edge, the rest are almost corroded away.
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https://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/ima … medium.jpg
And this image shows Mars is really yellow. Hint: this image is false colour, produced from altimeter data. It doesn't really look like that.Or this image from Mars Express. This is Mars upside down, north is actually the lower left corner. Check the "N" arrow.
http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2018/06/mars_from_horizon_to_horizon/17530745-1-eng-GB/Mars_from_horizon_to_horizon_node_full_image_2.jpg
Ooh! Ooh! There's green! There's blue at the top (south) and green at the bottom (north)! Caption says...The colour image was created using data from the HRSC’s nadir (aligned perpendicular to the surface of Mars) and colour channels.
HRSC - High Resolution Stereo Camera
The HRSC camera system, which only weighs 20 kilograms, has two camera heads: the High Resolution Stereo head, which consists of nine CCD line sensors mounted in parallel behind a lens, and the SRC head, which is composed of a mirror telephoto lens and a CCD array sensor. The High Resolution Stereo head works on pushbroom mode: sensors image a line on the planet surface perpendicular to the ground track of the spacecraft and rely on the orbital motion of the spacecraft to reposition them as they record a sequence of images known as an image swath. In this case, each sensor records the same object on the surface at a different angle. Three-dimensional images are generated by five of the image strips. The remaining four of the nine line sensors are equipped with special colour filters for recording multi-spectral data.
Unfortunately not of this tells us what filters were used for this image. Hint: compare colour to Hubble images.
The thin bright blue line across the top of this image is actually the atmosphere. Green across the bottom is actually sunlight reflecting off clouds. Dark blue at the top has something to do with minerals. Captions I found do not say what colour filters were used, so I can't say more than that.
Nice ESA image by the way, blue atmosphere and as you said iffy green, but since there are no other colors present, l tend to see this as supportive evidence.
More plants...
This reflective rock which is almost pointing straight up, is showing these weird things rising up around the rover?
I thought that they were Licken, but eventhough they give off a dark green color, are the leaves, of plants around the rover.
The thing lower right may be an old gray or another depiction, but it isn't a plant or the rover.
The tree trunk again, although the CP tends to say that this is a rock, with a plant up top.
But the right hand one, (strong green) is a plant.
And left, a mirror, shiny tin?
I also distortion corrected the ESA one, so we can get a good look at what Mars really looks like.
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A timed .gif into a short video with adjusted colors (reduced red hue).
This planet is not red and has beautiful regions similar to Earth!
Place on "loop" and 1080p
Sorry for the mod but the link set off the norton intrusion detection to block a Fake tech support
text s://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSJap-U7JAH1b86c1eGEAlOxxQmMoItH/view?usp=sharing text
Thanks, but l can't find it here, let me know if you can get an active link to that one here?
As for the rest, the ESA image showing the blue atmosphere, (when NASA keeps showing images of no visible atmosphere or blue around the rim) and the ...obvious greens, (when NASA shows nothing, apart from Hubble from the past) and the great lake systems on Mars, which are very similar to Earth ones make it pretty obvious that this thread has a solid bases for further investigation.
This also shows, (more vividly that we are accustomed to here) that some will refuse to accept it. More evidence does nothing, when it should enlighten or at least create doubt.
Which is why NASA are releasing it painfully slowly.
If l saw a video of a Martian rainforest, l would be stocked beyond belief, but l would also have to glue my feet to the carpet, and l am into this stuff, and what would someone in total denial do?
Beats me, but l wouldn't want to be in the same room when it was shown.
No, best to present the evidence the best we can, and if the evidence is obvious, but is still ignored, then let them be, or we should just carry on with our investigations.
Found the link...
http://www.enterprisemission.com/colors.htm
Scrow half way down for the original image, (and yeah, it wasn't an earth based image but from orbit).
You need to click on the image to enlarge.
And you can try to go to the NASA ESA site, but most of the image pre 2000 are not available or extremely hard to find.
And as l have found by doing another round of searching for the original image, most likely NASA pulled it.
I've seen pressure conferences where the NASA spokesperson took questions. When asked about life on Mars, the NASA person said if they found any, they would definitely report it. If they found life on Mars, they would get massive funding from Congress to go investigate. So they have no motivation to hide anything.
Like the "face on Mars". After Viking in the late 1970s, NASA was told they weren't allowed to send any more interplanetary probes. No orbiters, no fly-by, nothing. For many years they weren't allowed to launch anything at all, so NASA wanted to make maximum use of the data they had. So they wanted to do computer image enhancement of images from Viking orbiters. They didn't have any such computer software, but the CIA did so they asked the CIA to use theirs. The CIA had written software to process images from spy satellites in Earth orbit, software specifically written to look for human faces and geometric shapes. And NASA didn't just run the images through once, they took the output and ran through again. And again, and again, for a total of 5 times. The result was the "face on Mars", and "pyramids". Considering what they did, it's surprising they didn't get more. Since NASA has been allowed to launch missions to Mars again, they've taken high resolution images of the "face on Mars". Every orbiter has. And the result: it's just a mountain. There is no face, it's just a mountain. The "face on Mars" is an artifact of CIA software. Same with the so-called "pyramids". The lesson here is don't trust the CIA; that NASA must write their own software.
There's a conspiracy for you: don't trust the CIA. Is that hard to swallow? I would think a conspiracy theorist would accept that.
And early probes also when they saw the face, showed it to be one and a half miles high, then when they took it again, showed it to be a pile of rubble, then apparently it became a mountain again.
Definitely report it, lol that is the usual line l hear, no they wouldn't.
They get more funding, while a sizable amount of people globally smash in windows, and steal stuff, to justify having a major para-grim shift that they cannot handle.
Not to mention the Mars three advanced races on the surface, very likely as we speak, which leads to free energy or magnetic vortex systems which leads to the 100 trillion in oil or its price taking a nosedive.
Members of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada (Winnipeg) set up telescopes during Mars close approach in 2003. Mars looked the same as Hubble images, just not as sharp. The club had a number of large telescopes, one was an 18" reflector. So where did you get the image of green with lakes?
I got this image from a site, or Google images, which is very hard to find, sorry.
This was taken from a ground based telescope and a compilation of several images, that can only be found if you type in the right word or words, (l gave it my best shot but couldn't find it again).
NASA is to no surprize burying images like this, since it slam dunks the Mars has life idea.
And -81 °F, would freeze all plant and animal life, (or kill it) or any water would freeze like stone, and any animal, insects would not survive.
But we see water flowing freely, every day, (when we can) and as Viking showed frosts quickly disappears after a short while, and yeah, you can't have frosts without a decent amount of water vapor in the atmosphere.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mart … rte_56.htm
Interesting read, especially the part on NASA admi, telling their staff to remove all blue sky mars image negatives.
And this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0OLe6SXcY8
You may notice that when he says, "life on Mars" he winks, that is NASA to a tee, we want to tell everyone the obvious that Mars is earth like, but have to play this game, as some cannot handle it.
From what l and others have seen, some will still go ga-ga, when they spill the beans.
This table gives boiling temperature of water in near vacuum. here
Pressure is given in microns, inches of mercury, and PSIA, so you have to convert. And it jumps from 0.088 PSIA (6.067 mbar) to 0.147 PSIA (10.135 mbar), so you have to interpolate. But at 10.135 mbar, clean water boils at 7.22°C. Again, salt will rise that a couple degrees, but that gives a very narrow temperature range for liquid water. But during a warm summer day, those temperatures do exist on Mars.The table shows boiling temperatures below zero for extreme low pressure. This can happen. If you take liquid water and drop the pressure so rapidly that it doesn't have time to freeze, then it can happen. But below the triple point, ice will not melt, it will sublimate. On the tops of mountains, pressure on Mars is below the triple point, but for most of its surface, pressure is above. Just barely above, but it is above.
Thanks Robert,...ok, back to business, ran through 12 images but didn't find any more spectacular landscape images.
No, this isn't some martian strip of tape, (l could probably create a YT video of it) just the rovers reflection, l just put this in to show that some rocks on Mars are like mirrors.
Found this, (well this is one of several images of it) the color picker, CP shows it to be a tree, but it might be a tree trunk, with moss on it?
And what appears to be a row of them in front of the background blue hills.
And another few, (best guess that it is a large tree trunk, covered over with moss and other small plants) with the obvious question is what knocked off the top of this?
I know it could be a rock shaped like a tree trunk, but since Mars has small tree's, then....
I got this from NASA images of Mars, (Google that) which shows the rover at Sol, 900+, l am at 500+.
It may also show an ancient town, with cobbled streets, etc. Impossible to verify that 100%, but some of the angles are a little too straight for it to be natural, so l am learning towards artificial.
And this...
This is the highest res, or Mars available, with an unmistakable blue atmosphere, (Earth has less of the blue by comparison).
And the nearest NASA image, which is a joke, a sick one at that, (shows little atmosphere to none, and practically no green).
I also did a thorough search of the latest Hubble high res, images of Mars, (the ones with no atmosphere at all) and could not find any.
Their site has none, and images have none, eventhough l remember seeing them recently.
I guess that they need to be careful as to how much BS, they dish out?
The lowest natural temperature ever directly recorded at ground level on Earth is −89.2 °C (−128.6 °F; 184.0 K), at the Soviet Vostok Station in Antarctica, on July 21, 1983. Analysis of satellite data has indicated a probable temperature of around −93.2 °C (−135.8 °F; 180.0 K), also in Antarctica, on August 10, 2010; however, this has not been confirmed by ground
With NASA saying -81 °F, being the norm, (for mars). Satellite temp's were -89 °F, for the lowest temp,s on Earth for Antarctica, in the 80's, and as we know, there is little to nothing growing there, becuase of the harsh temp's and wind.
Maybe these temp's only last for a small period of time, (as the blue/purple sunset one) or NASA is up to their old tricks, but either way l have trouble with -80 °F, when l see a lush green landscape.
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Tmcom wrote:But since Mars has clouds made up of water ice, or water vapor, it raises another obvious but hard to digest truth.
NASA already released images showing rivulets of water running down the side of gullies. One orbiter image shows it isn't there, another shows it is. So between the images, water ran down hill. The water is caused by ice melting when the surface is above freezing. We don't know how much salt is in the ice, but rovers found salt in Mars soil practically everywhere. Salt causes ice to melt at a lower temperature, and water to boil a few degrees higher. The water went somewhere. Mars has water vapour in the atmosphere, humidity. It's not much, Mars today is drier than the Sahara, but there is some. So why are you surprised there are water ice clouds? There are far fewer clouds on Mars than Earth, but Mars does have some.
Ok and l found streams of water years before that, (see video first post) and they have found substantial amounts of water vapor in the atmosphere, which should be impossible if Mars surface is 1% of ours.
Some of the images above are genuine, and some not so much, but this is legit. And clearly shows vegetation and lake systems on Mars.
I enlarged this only, from the original Raw image.
Sure we can argue that plants may be able to handle near vacumn surface pressures, with very salty systems, but if that was true then our moon, would be green, (our moon is definitely in the habitable zone).
And as l said before the artic region on Mars has no salt only dirt and a layer of ice beneath that, and then we sent a probe there, water droplets formed on its legs, which is impossible with the 1% air pressure idea.
Sort of the image that I discribed for a possible mars:
Thanks, SpaceNut, (Administrator) nice image and probably very close. I am personally surprised that JPL, released the blue mountain, etc one, but post #317 cannot be ignored, so l expect that bold images will become more common over time.
But since Mars has clouds made up of water ice, or water vapor, it raises another obvious but hard to digest truth.
Found this interesting article, and l did try one of the LIFE Mars image links, but it was broken.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid … idence.htm
Smart man, and a good read.
I believe that these dark things on this rock are moss, since the CP shows strong green here and there, and dust is covering part of them.
The top one more plant soulettes, (the CP shows strong green, and mainly blue for the sky).
NASA is trying to make out that these are the edges of the rocks, but the CP gives away the fact that this rock is reflecting back the surrounding landscape, if this was a rock shadow only, no green would be present.
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Hard to imagine lakes and forests on Mars, when liquid water is not stable over so very much of its surface, nor is any other liquid we know of. The 6 mbar pressure and -50-ish to 0-ish C temperatures at both Viking lander sites (and most sites since, whether a NASA probe or not) is a hard piece of data contradicting what is being presented as factual in this thread. So is the water vapor pressure thermodynamic curve.
I've seen lots of greenish-looking rocks in my life, too, right here on Earth.
I don't argue that the sky looks blue on Mars at times, but at other times it is reddish. Depends on how much dust is in the Mars air at the time the photo is taken, as well as local sun angles. We get similar effects here. It is easy to get false color images wrong in color, too. We'll know more about that when people really go there and see it with their own eyes.
Bear in mind that false color images are often extremized this way or that way, to show what is being looked for, rather than the true appearance to a human eye on site.
GW
The air pressure is a lie, as is the almost 200dc at night, the first is borne out by liquid water being almost everywhere, and large amounts of liquid water vapor in the atmosphere, and water droplet's forming on Mars lander legs, (the previous two being impossible, since you can't have very salty water vapor).
NASA reads the 1957 report that there would be mass chaos if aliens on Mars where announced.
They send Viking there in 1977, expecting nothing, and find after testing three times that there is more energetic organics in the soil than Earth, (l have extensively read Viking PDF reports) then botch the oven test to dismiss it all.
And have been lying ever since.
A good example of this is Spirit and Opportunity rovers, which spend more than 10 years each on either side of the planet, together they produced 20 years worth of images, and Never gave us one blue sky image, (Curiosity did after a year or so). Tech, error, dust storms and anything else including elevation cannot account for this, only deliberate coverup can account for this.
NASA knows that it is inevitable that we will know that Mars is a second Earth, which is why we are getting this trickle of it now.
When NASA keeps showing us, no atmosphere or red only in most of their images, when Hubble and ESA from the past show blue atmosphere, then it is obvious that someone is lying.
Hubble isn't, it tracked Mars weather for years, with blue atmosphere every time, as All image taken by amateur astronomers with a telescope in their backs yards does.
NASA is definitely creating a cover story, and releasing this slowly so as not to cause mass panic, no doubts.
I have recently witnessed individuals who would not even accept a guy at NASA's JPL centre, saying that Mars may have organic's systems deep in the soil creating all of the methane.
There is such a thing of being brainwashed for so long that it is comforting and predictable, instead of unsettling and scary. Some will go to any lengths to keep a hold on the first two than the last.
I have witnessed a few things in the later, so don't really care about what l find, the more we can learn the truth the better, as it is better to get this in pieces than one hit.
And the ESA image of Mars l previously showed, (post #317, enlargement of Original Raw Image) clearly shows a blue atmosphere and large areas of green, etc, which cannot be explained away by lighting camera angles or anything else. Evidence speaks volumes here.
As does large volumes of Methane and Oxygen being released into space. Methane may be created by something deep underground, but Oxygen, nope, only plants can do that.
PS All images that l post here, (which l have changed in some way, not the originals of course) need written permission from me, if someone wishes to post it elsewhere. This obviously does not include the original raw image, and if you already have then don't fret, l just don't want easily regonisable images showing up in certain forums, where l will need a large bottle of alchol to get through the predictable comebacks.
thankyou.
I agree with the color shift pixelation so maybe not so much magnification would help as to not create a false impression of what might not be there.
I have seen some shades of color that do not seem right within frames but over doing the zoom is not helpful to make it clear that there could be life on this deadish looking world.
Agreed, that the first image in post #368, has colors that don't belong there, and l probably shouldn't have bothered with that one, and it is a balancing act not to make the image too big, but even with the red/orange filter, (original image) clear examples of a rich green, blue etc still show.
More plants, the CP has seen some dark green here and there.
This one shows some shrubs on this rock, some may be dead, but there is some green here.
Then scraggly looking plant or weed on the left, etc, (the CP showed strong green) and the bushes on the right, (CP showed a little green, but mainly burnt browns).
And the top one,...looks like a giant statue of a man wearing a toga, and holding, phew, bread, cake, siliver balloons perhaps; but whatever this is, it is not the rover or a rock.
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Had a closer look and l believe that this is a man statue, holding silver balloons, (there are more silver balloons behind him and a silver structure behind him on the hill with an entrance).
Obviously a marker to a a hospitality business.