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#526 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-22 10:08:56

SpaceNut wrote:

Nice water flow images but is there any way possible to tell how long ago it did flow. The other think\g to note is the amount of water that would be required to make what we see.
The second image posted in 499 shows just how much dust is in the air of mars.
Image 1 and 3 seem to have some sort of path going down a drain hole indicating open areas below the surface something that needs an answer for the BFR landings....

Thanks, and time period the rover landed 5 years ago, (more or less) with last Sol being 2172, or present day, and l am up to SOL, (SOL is one martian day) 590, or around 600, so about 4 years ago or the year 2014.

And true, l believe that we would need constant light rainfull, or bursts of torrential rain to pull off what l am finding. The rover in SOL 588, must have gone through a ten or 15 minute burst in order to produce the water flows on the landscape and making the surrounding soil, damp enough to cling to the rovers wheels for a good part of a week.

I know the second image looks dry and dusty, but that is NASA BS, or their universal filter that they put over virtually every image they give us.

NASA landed Viking in 77, expecting nothing, and found the opposite then got spooked and red filtered the lot, and nobbled the oven experiment. Initial tests in the soil and images where correct.

We had two probes in 1977, and without checking 78 land on Mars, and give us the same blue sky, green on the rocks images. Then since then NASA red skied all images including later Viking ones, (pretty hard to send one probe to mars, mess up the colors, and then do it again a year later, especially when they costed a billion or more). NASA already knows Mars is Earthlike, and is trying to come clean, but do it in a not mass riot kind of way.

The water droplets and the perfect timing wet soil in SOL588, are saying that mars has rain, since there is literally no other explanation. Hard to comprehend, since we have grown up with NASA lies since childhood, but lies they are.

Good lies perhaps to help stop mass panic, or from what l have witnessed elsewhere, help stave off mass psychoses, but either way full disclosure is inevitable.

And looking forward to that day, is an understatement, in more ways than one.

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#527 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-22 03:13:09

More examples of water flows...

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Bottom image, lime green landscape, blue sky and the white blob, probably the rover.

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And this the arrow shows an area that is reflecting the sky and parts of the rover back to us, most likely a large puddle.

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#528 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-21 01:35:15

More plants...

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and overcast sky.

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And more plants, with some blue mountains in the distance, (right image also shows the same plants and formations, but more compressed, because of the rock angle).

A remarkable planet.

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#529 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-20 04:54:03

More plants and rain-clouds.

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This last image especially shows rain-clouds in the sky, and the top ones, show blue peaking through the overcast sky, or in other words, our sky, overcast or not is a carbon copy of Mars sky.

SOL 590

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#530 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-19 03:39:54

More rain, plants and clouds. smile

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Top, raincloud or heavy downpour, bottom image, more ferns.

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Top, raincloud again, middle, is a rather nice image of the sun setting, over the distant mountain and low lying cloud inbetween the rover and the mountain, which means that especially after a rainly day, (just like on Earth) it gets colder, or cold enough for the clouds to drop down to land levels.

Bottom, could be a martian prickle.

This is of course, impossible, lol.

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#531 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-15 03:14:09

Last of the 589 Sol images.

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First the rovers wheel being ref, back.

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Second a martian raincloud, and possibly rain, too hard to tell.

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#532 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-14 03:59:06

Ok, plants and water today. smile

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Strong green, and definately not the rover.

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Sun is still setting.

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And Mars soil or dirt is still wet.

This is an area, which has seen recent water flows, and some of the rocks, have the mud, hugging them, (if the dirt was bone dry, you wouldn't get the mud holding onto these pebbles.

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#533 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-12 03:03:00

SpaceNut wrote:

The first image in post #490 looks like water stream trails.....

Yep.

Run through another 20 images, but nothing worth posting.

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#534 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-10 04:39:01

More rain. smile

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And more martian plants.

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The sun is still setting over the martian landscape, (lake and probably plant on the left).

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This seems to be depicting a flying craft, probably ancient. Probably related to the Atlantian, giant flying craft?

588 - 89

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#535 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-08 08:34:05

SpaceNut wrote:

Talking about the myth of Atlantis and the distruction from a story passed on by Plato?

Ok, l only read the one where someone said that some global disaster struck the planet a long time ago, which accounts for the stuff everywhere.

#536 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-08 03:21:53

Ok, weird today, had some serious issues with this image. Either my computer or NASA has started to nobble their images?

But there are ways around their crap, so... smile

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This is the image in question, and gives us a closer look at the plant l showed previously.

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THis one, sun still setting, and the landscape is still showing green tree's or plants, and a lake.

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#537 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-07 21:19:18

louis wrote:

Nice collection of Mars anomalies here on this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtGfgcSxC04&t=5s

Would be great if we could get humans on the planet to investigate these in detail.

Nice video and some are certainly artificial, not the skull thought, (rover reflection).


What I am puzzled with is all the sedmentary layered rock that is broken and tossed about all over the place....

Best to read the YT comments Spacenut.

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#538 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-07 04:38:52

The sun is still setting...

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This took a while to figure out, but the sun is setting on a distant hill or more likely lake, with glistening off the still water further down. The curved thing, some green so a plant of some kind, but the thing on the left is a plant, strong green.

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Setting sun, pink/orange sky. And some distant silver glistening buildings.

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Green plants.

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#539 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-06 22:30:18

M-Albion-3D wrote:

Thanks again Tmcom for taking the time to upload the links below but I think your effort has not been in vain. It looks to me as though you may have landed on something very special here guy.

All I've done here is to pay focus on this most strange looking data point which appears to be "draped" over the supporting rock strata, although draped may not be the right word as the anomaly appears to be floating somewhat.

What I also find intriguing, is the defined "ring" over the back of the object. Just visible.

From my perspective, this object could one of several possibilities, the least of which, is the unlike result of geological process IMO.

This is where 3-D comes in handy. An "ornament" perhaps?

A selection of images in varying contrast levels for download:
3D ornament.zip

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/7OAlGa.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/U0OOQW.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x … bKHtMX.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/C4qKYH.jpg

Possibly, l have to be very careful when studying areas of rocks with shadows.

#540 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-05 22:50:15

louis wrote:

The are thousands of patterns in the two images. What do you mean "both images are plants"? Both? That makes no sense. If you mean the insect-like form we can see is a plant fair enough but it doesn't appear in the second pic...which you then appear to accept.

Tmcom wrote:
louis wrote:

I think this is one of the most intriguing videos on possible life on Mars so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RysBWE1_YmA

It appears we have two pics from NASA of the same area.  In one we can see an insect-like form. In the other it appears not to be there...which of course suggests that the "insect" moved.

V. interesting I think.  Could be one of the strongest ever confirmations of life on Mars.  Joe White also raises the possiblity that some of the "rocks" we see on Mars might be insect-created mounds, like termite mounds on Earth.

Any thoughts?

Nice one, Louis, but l believe that both images are plants, the second a reflective rock, and the first, probably a baby fern or plant, which as the video showed, in one image and not the next.

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No, l agree that the first one which he believes is an  insect is a baby fern, and the second without it, has bee Photoshopped out, (and they clearly did a bad job at that).

The second one he discussed at 12.38 or the anthill, is probably the rover being reflected back in a freaky rock, but l can't be 100% sure of that.

Either way, more solid evidence that NASA is hiding stuff.

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#541 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-05 07:02:35

louis wrote:

I think this is one of the most intriguing videos on possible life on Mars so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RysBWE1_YmA

It appears we have two pics from NASA of the same area.  In one we can see an insect-like form. In the other it appears not to be there...which of course suggests that the "insect" moved.

V. interesting I think.  Could be one of the strongest ever confirmations of life on Mars.  Joe White also raises the possiblity that some of the "rocks" we see on Mars might be insect-created mounds, like termite mounds on Earth.

Any thoughts?

Nice one, Louis, but l believe that both images are plants, the second a reflective rock, and the first, probably a baby fern or plant, which as the video showed, in one image and not the next.

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#542 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-05 04:44:45

Ok, first off Mars sky at sunset...best til last as always. smile

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Obvious storm clouds top, and mist or rain bottom?

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And another,...pretty obvious that rain clouds are present.

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And this? Several ref, rocks show this, so it isn't a rock detail, bottom image show what is probably the rovers wheel, on the right, since it isn't there on the top image, and the CP only shows coffee, gray.

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Best guess that this is a dead tree.

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And this which shows a dead tree or plant, the top is green, possibly a prickle plant like we get in Earths deserts?

And this...

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A pretty good look at a tree, white trunk, and obvious signs of branches and leaves. CP shows strong areas of green.


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https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra … DXXX&s=588
https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra … DXXX&s=588
https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra … DXXX&s=588

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#543 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-04 22:25:41

louis wrote:

I don't think asking for specific pic links to raw images (rather than linking to a website) is unreasonable.

Ok, l just checked the search function, which doesn't work, and eventhough l cannot link to each one, as l load up a good 100, put then in a file and go through them when i can, so creating a file for each image and link would slow down the process too much, on special occasions, (like now) l can direct link them.

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra … DXXX&s=588
https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/ra … DXXX&s=588

But in all honesty these images are very easy to find, just click on bottom/right then on the first few numbers eg, Sol 0588,..... for example, then scroll down till they show up, for the rover closeups, there is usually only half a dozen at a time, and easy to find.

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#544 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-04 12:09:00

M-Albion-3D wrote:
Tmcom wrote:

Ok, more great evidence that Mars has plant life.

This reflective rock shows ferns and plants growing out of this rock.

Lower image, plants in the distance, top, a pretty good closeup look at a fern like fron. smile

Lower, sun is still setting over a landscape of distant blue mountains, blue/pinkish clouds and sky, waterways and plants.

A vastly different view than the blue sunset, rocks and virtually no atmosphere, NASA lies.

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Hi Tmcom. thanks for the images.


I've tried both search engine and the NASA site to bring up the reference numbers quoted. As you can see below, no results found.

Again, please could you provide an active link for the images you show so we may examine the image data on local machines?

Many thanks.

Sure...and thanks for the positive remarks.

https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/

Phew, had a run in with some serious idiots elsewhere, no amount of evidence is enough for some, and stupidity really is infinite, (Einstein quote).

Some won't believe in any of this till the day they die, and posting water droplets on the rover, would mean nothing to them they will just ignore it, and continue on their deluded paths.

It takes some serious brainwashing to ignore very good evidence and continue to convince yourself that you are super smart.

There are two camps on this planet the ones that see evidence and move on and others that ignore it at any cost.

The ones that ignore it, pffft, they have little time left til mainstream science shows HD images of this.

Then we will truely see.

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#545 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-03 03:33:28

Ok, more great evidence that Mars has plant life.

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This reflective rock shows ferns and plants growing out of this rock.

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Lower image, plants in the distance, top, a pretty good closeup look at a fern like fron. smile

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Lower, sun is still setting over a landscape of distant blue mountains, blue/pinkish clouds and sky, waterways and plants.

A vastly different view than the blue sunset, rocks and virtually no atmosphere, NASA lies.

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#546 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-09-01 03:29:51

Another look at the martian landscape, blue mountains, clearing rainclouds and the green blob on the right, are most likely ferns growing out of this rock.

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#547 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-08-29 03:35:16

SpaceNut wrote:

So does it mean that the polar out gassing from being warmer during there respective summers gain in are pressure and what is that level so we can plan mars teraforming....

Not sure what you mean, but pure water droplets, sitting on top of the rover, opens a lot of doors. And l did a search for Curiosity malfunctions, and so far no heating or power issues.


Ok, today the usual, rain clouds and plants.

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This one gives a reasonably good look at some, and they do resemble smaller versions of the boab tree image l showed previously.

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Another reasonably good look at the martian landscape, with plants, (CP) which may be small shrubs and ferns; blue mountains and rainclouds with possibly a lake, but too hard to be sure.

Mars is in the habitable zone, the ESA satellite shows, isolated but vast green areas, and likely giant lakes, or isolated oceans, large amounts of water vapor in the atmosphere, large amounts of oxygen detected leaving the atmosphere, and so on...

So Mars being the second habitable planet in our system, needn't be some hard to imagine shock, the evidence is stacked in its favor, but the implications are hard to handle.

Spotting Martian rain drops on the rover is no surprize, NASA letting it through was, l have spent years at this and have seen countless rivers, wet soil and streams, so best to get used to this now, as it will be in our faces in the next 15 years.

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#548 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-08-27 22:00:22

louis wrote:

We've seen condensation on the polar lander...drops of (presumably briney) water don't have to drop from the sky.

Tmcom wrote:
SpaceNut wrote:

Tmcom that is a beautiful image and quite possibly was what early mars was like when the atmosphere was thick enough to support life. I do think that small pockets in the low lying area of mars may still have such early life but it will be very thin....

True that the rover landed in a giant crater, but with the air pressure being more Earth like, it does open the door.

louis wrote:

OK, let's assume you're right...why doesn't Mars look blue and white and green like Earth looks from a distance?

Assume, lol, unless an alien went up to the rover with a watering can, there is no assume. As for the rest, Mars sunlight is 20% less than Earth, and Mars only has small continent sized oceans, so it won't look blue, and possibly less cloud cover, adding to a more nonuniform magnetic field, which is probably the strongest at its greenest parts.

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No, But these came from the top of the rover, 5 years after landing, so we can forget about the landing engines throwing up water, (eventhough unlike Phoenix there was no ice in the dirt).

Forget about salt being on the rover, (the last image was near spotless)

Forget about the rover springing a leak, sure it uses CFC-12, or car radiator fluid, as a heat exchange and power generator, but this is a closed loop, and does not go anywhere near its front wheel leg, or the robotic arm assembly.

https://trs.jpl.nasa.gov/bitstream/hand … sAllowed=y

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Not to mention the dry ground becoming wet, before all of the droplets were found, and a week later drying out again.

The Only other explanation is the rovers fluid system sprung a major leak, and sprayed substantial amounts of radiator coolent, over a wide area, that because of its composition survived as a liquid and wet the soil over a wide enough area,......

This does not explain the water flows or puddles, and is a weak grasp at best, in ignoring the obvious.

Sure it is a scary thought that NASA is lying, and Mars probably has ferns in the general area, but in this case, it seems pretty iron clad that the rover at Sol 588, went through a short downpour.

SpaceNut wrote:

You mean the Pheonix polar lander with its landing engines cause condensation on the legs...or simply because its obsorbing and radiating the days accumilated heat towards the ground.

http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2010/02/1 … -nat-4.jpg

Images of one of Phoenix's struts taken by the lander's robotic arm camera on Sols (or Martian days) 8, 31 and 44 of the mission. The two spheroids enclosed by the circle appear to merge with each other, which some Phoenix scientists argue is a sign that the globs are liquid water.

https://www.space.com/6394-phoenix-mars … tists.html

Thanks, Spacenut, doesn't really matter what caused that, it is more of the case if it is not briney water then NASA is lying about the air pressure.

But since these are closer to the ground, and may be briney...

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29634476/ns/t … 4S_LsJ9jIU

I didn't include that one with my findings.

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#549 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-08-27 04:23:33

Not much today, more landscapes, but the thing on the left is a plant.

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Look like fungus or toadstools to me, the CP showed very little green, mainly dark coffee.

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#550 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2018-08-25 21:31:04

SpaceNut wrote:

Tmcom that is a beautiful image and quite possibly was what early mars was like when the atmosphere was thick enough to support life. I do think that small pockets in the low lying area of mars may still have such early life but it will be very thin....

True that the rover landed in a giant crater, but with the air pressure being more Earth like, it does open the door.

louis wrote:

OK, let's assume you're right...why doesn't Mars look blue and white and green like Earth looks from a distance?

Assume, lol, unless an alien went up to the rover with a watering can, there is no assume. As for the rest, Mars sunlight is 20% less than Earth, and Mars only has small continent sized oceans, so it won't look blue, and possibly less cloud cover, adding to a more nonuniform magnetic field, which is probably the strongest at its greenest parts.

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