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MarsDog, I was thinking of a very soft landing for an asteroid. It would take technology we do not have to do something like that.
Someone needs to invent anti-gravity.
If a powerful enough laser was built, could it punch down through the crust to magma. A chain of man-made volcanoes would do the same thing.
If it is possible to use a powerful laser to create volcanoes, it might be used to create islands.
I saw a Venus Sulfur Cycle in a book or magazine a few years ago. I wish I could find it on the Internet.
In this cycle, Venus’ Sulfuric acid (H2 SO4)was broken down by UV radiation (Maybe explaining the unaccounted for UV absorption) into water (H2O)and the leftover SO3. I forgot what the 1 S and 3 O atoms do but they get cycled down into the rock. They are replenished by volcanoes, according to the theory.
Here is an interesting page on Sulfuric Acid;
It is not quiet 3 times of Earth’s. Probably closer to 2 and a half times.
97% of Venus Atmosphere is CO2. The majority of the remaining 3% is Nitrogen. Venus’ total atmosphere is around 90 times that of the Earth. 3% of 90 times the Earth is 2.7 times.
I had never really thought about Venus 3% of Nitrogen as being a great amount until I read Isaac Asimov book about Venus. He pointed out that Venus’ Nitrogen was just under three time the amount of Earth’s total atmosphere.
Chat, don't forget about Venus' Nitrogen (About 3 times that of Earth's)
Science Fiction always makes Native Martians taller than Earthlings. It would probably take many generations to see this effect.
The downside of being a Native Martian, you could never visit the Earth for very long. On the plus side, you would look much younger than your Earth counterpart.Plastic Surgeons might not have much work on Mars. Women could say no to bras. Wrinkles would only be on the very old.
Speaking of old, would Martians live longer than those on the Earth? The low gravity would put less strain on a Martian’s heart. Would their heart become weaker over time, unless they were active?
And when it comes to strength, would a Native Martian be able to hold up with an Earthling? Probably not.
Too bad we can’t soft-land a large long asteroid across the Sahara. If the right shape, and placed right, it could trap moisture on the upside (Like the Rockies do in Washington State).
As air rose up the side of the new mountain, it would cool and loose its moisture. This moister would rain down forming rivers that would run across the deserts.
Of course, I have no idea how to soft land an asteroid, and if I did, it would be a dangerous thing to try.
What about building a man-made volcanoes? Find a way to punch down to the magma. It would take one heck of a laser and a ton of power to make a hole that deep.
Snow Skiing! Jumps would grand. (Anyone remember the Agony of Defeat?). Black Diamonds would be a snap.
Surfing would be neat, but you would have to builds a wave pool. That would be so cool to have a 9 meter wave to surf down in Mars gravity.
Rodeo’s would be interesting, but unlikely unless Mars is fully terraformed and there are plentiful cattle grazing the green fields of Mars.
It is hard to imagine what an alien computer would be like? Perhaps they might not even need computers. Perhaps their brains are like computers. Maybe they use biological computer.
While I am talking about aliens, one thing I have noticed is that we tend to put their life-spans the same as ours. There could be aliens that live thousands of years, or hundreds of thousands of years.
I hope you are right. I would love to see springs.
From the gullies that MOC images have shown us, we know they are possible.
Another thing that points to these things being fossils. They appear to have a low density (They stay atop the sand and dust) but that are harder than there their parent rock. Unfortunately, I don’t know what their density is or the their harness, but if they do have a low density and a high harness, that could indicate they are fossils. I don’t know any natural mineral that have a very low density, but a high hardness. Shells, Coral and Bone, made of calcium, fit this description, and with coral and shell fossils, when in Limestone, are harder than their parent rock.
When I say harder than their parent rock, I mean more resistant to weathering as well as actual hardness.
atomoid, a lot of pictures have been taken around this area, and I have not seen the channels coming from those craters.
I have studied thousands of MOC pictures and that is the only one I have seen the channels in.
Very strange, it is.
I was assuming we added water to Venus with comets, converting CO2, or some other way and started a water cycle.
I think an ocean worth of water would scrub any harmful sulfur out of the environment.
Cassioli, is that a baby sandworm at the bottom of this picture;
http://jumpjack.altervista.org/immagini … rance2.jpg
The spice must flow!
This topic reminds me of how ridiculous the Independence Day movie was. It was a fun movie, and I did like it, but I knew, while watching it, that aliens that advanced would have kicked our tails.
The part about introducing a virus into the alien computer network had me shaking my head. We have a hard enough time getting Unix and Microsoft machines talking to each other (The protocols we use are based on years of development).
There is no way a person could write a virus code for an alien computer like that. What are the odds of an alien computer resembling anything we have developed. Once an alien computer had been studied for years, and we understood how it worked and the language it used, we probably would be able to inflict a virus on it.
Sounds good to me, Clark.
Notice the spheres around Endurance are the same size as those back in Eagle. Also notice many are attached by pedestals (berries-on-a-stick), be them erosional or biological in nature
They seem to have a size limit that I can not explain. They all seem to reach a certain size. Tektites would vary in size, and the larger they got the less spherical they would become. Concretions would also very in size and they would be layered.
Mollusks Fossils, here on earth, have size limits. I have found layers in limestone where all the shell fossils are similar sizes. I am not saying the sphere on Mars are fossils, but so far, that is the only way I can explain their similar sizes and their size limit.
What throws me away from them being fossils is that they are evenly distributed throughout the parent rock and are not restricted to certain layers. When I find shell fossils, they are usually in layers.
So, from what data I have seen, the spheres are not Tektites and they are not Concretions. They could be fossils.
IMO the 'blueberries' are the most puzzling thing discovered on Mars by the rovers.
Looking at the large image of the crater;
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/ … ...6R1.jpg
It looks like the impactor came at an angle, just over our left shoulder (In the image). When it hit, more force was directed toward the far side, pushing it up higher than the side we are looking from.
How about a genetically altered horse able to survive on the surface of Mars?
Mars looks like a great place to roam the range and to ride off into the sunset.
If you ever head down to South Padre Island, Texas, you’ll see a sign that says something like this;
Last gas station and restroom stop for 50 miles. (Or is it 90 miles?)
It is right before you enter the King Ranch.
West Texas is not much better when it comes to rest stops.
I find the origin of the European last name interesting.
Long ago, the people of Europe had first names only. This was fine in a small community where you only have one John, or one David. But as a town grew and we got more than one John or David, they started saying things like, that is John the blacksmith (John became John Smith). Or that is David who lives by the green field (and he became David Greenfield.
Some European cultures would say that is John, son of Eric (And he became John Ericson).
I have some native American blood in me, (1/16th). I like how the Native American came up with names.
My handle, REB, is my initials.
My last name is a German name that means Iron-worker (Kind of like a Black-Smith). It originated from the beautiful German town of Baden Baden. My Great Grandfather, and his two brothers, came from Germany to America in 1865. They were bakers. One of the brother’s names was Robert.
I thought I was named after this Great-great Uncle, but my mother tells me I was named after an old boyfriend. My middle name is my father’s first name.
Once a water cycle got going on Venus, wouldn’t the sulfur get scrubbed out and locked into the rocks?
Pets?
Hard to say what they are, but to me, they look like fractures, probably caused by the meteor blast.
I may be jumping the gun here, but it looks like the smooth lower layers weather differently from the jagged upper layers. The upper layers are probably the marine deposited ‘blueberry’ layers. The lower layers might be made of something else, like volcanic ash.
To bad we are not near any gullies like these;
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/e13_e18 … 01546.html
Doh!. You are right. The X-15 was earlier in the film. It has been a while since I saw it.
I have often thought that Yeager should have road in a Saturn V. I bet he would have loved it.
The Right Stuff is a great movie. I need to get the DVD, widescreen. I also need to get the Apollo 13 DVD. (I like widescreen. You get to see the whole movie, and they are not as jerky as the TV formatted ones, where they pan back and forth between who ever is talking)