You are not logged in.
Greetings Ashes, welcome to our little corner of the universe! (aka the NewMars forums)
Whoa dude,
that's cool!
Groan, I want Half-life 2 now.
When I came across that Dec 2026 date, I was like, that's WAY too early for what they were about to do.
That date was one of the main reasons why I liked the series. I was like "Man, *counts on fingers* I'll be 38! Sweet! Just the right age to go!!"
I thought the Red Mars was the best. Green Mars was cool too, but I didn't like Blue Mars. Especially when KSR was going on about all the stuff about the old people's minds decaying. That just completely went whoosh over my head. Also I had a great hatred towards Ann and Jakie, those characters seriously got under my skin.
Overall, I thought the series was really inspring. It is the reason why I am on these forums.
Thus Zubrin, whether he realizes it or not, is basically saying humanity must keep conquering new territory if it wants to maintain 'progress', that new frontiers in the universe must be found and exploited for the glory of science and humanism. I didn't believe that Zubrin realized how parasitic this would make humanity until I found out he was the only person at a recent exo-biology conference that actually defended the colonization of Mars regardless of whether life exists there or not. Here's what he said:
Quote
"First, I think if we find life on Mars, we should go and study it. Secondly, that planet?s potential usefulness for humanity as a future home is clear. We accomplish none of those objectives if we stay away. To say that millions of people from Earth cannot have a planet of refuge from persecution or a planet of opportunity, to have those dreams denied because esthetically it is pleasing that native martian bacteria are left un-intruded upon...that?s just crazy. That is an esthetic position, not an ethical position," Zubrin said.
Zubrin had to defend colonisation of Mars, if he didn't then he would be comprimising his position at the head of the Mars Society. A leader who isn't prepared to defend Martian colonisation, I don't think so.
Are you willing to run the risk of not colonising because there is a POSSIBLITY that Martian life is present? It is a bit excessive to think that we have to search under every rock and turn every leaf (excuse the pun) for life before we can colonise. I think we still have our hopes too high of finding life on Mars. Even if it was there it would probably be under-ground while we'd be on the surface.
Is this what you meant by lyrics? For a song? Or for a dirty poem (I one new a man from Nantucket, and his penis was shaped like... well you get the idea...)
Yup, I meant song lyrics. I guess I need to practice my creative writing a bit more...
Those are quite cool, do you mind if I kinda um... 'borrowed' them for a song?
http://newmars.com/forums/edit.php?id=18521Damn your poems are cool...
I wish I could write like that.
Hey Clark, would you be able to give me a quick lesson in lyric writing?
The New Zealand News about 5 minutes ago, said a report had been released into the Columbia crash which points the blame at NASA itself. It said something like NASA had it's prioties wrong when it came to safety and they ignored some signs that things were going wrong. That pretty much lines up with what a radio programme said about 20 minutes ago.
Hmm, I think that is the report Cindy is refering to.
I was on New Zealand radio this morning, and I managed to advertise the Mars Society. (I was interviewed last night at a lecture about Mars at Wellington's Carter Obervatory.)
Yeah, I reckon; sport suits will be designed for mobility and strength so enviro-suits could be improved by taking elements out of the sport suits. Maybe a new age of designer clothing: The latest Nike enviro-suit, the latest and greatest in finesse, strength and style.
Indoor events?
Hmm, probably depends on the space available, but I'm sure people will come up with games and stuff to do around the hab. Like that game in KSR's Red Mars on the Ares where they push themselves and see how far they float down the corridor with the zero-g.
But I reckon Mars will be the place to be for extreme sports. Imagine absailing down Vallis Marineris, that'd be awesome!!
Nothing is not impossible!
LMAO....
Sorry, it just cracked me up.
How about the pole vault or discuss or something? They'd be pretty wicked.
Shooting maybe, better accuracy in the low g.
Dunno ay, there are lots of sports that would be cool in a Mars environment.
Cool in both sences of the word, imagine sumo wrestling or something. *shivers*
But wouldn't it be dangerous? Your enviro-suit thingy could break, but I suppose they would design ones especially for the different sports.
Oh damn,
I feel sorry for the Brazilians.
Wasn't Brazil where that rocket exploded on the launch pad a few days back?
Yeah, I think that fact is very sad.
Damned military...
What do I want to do on Mars?
Ok, cool.
Yeah, I was thinking I would need geology, engineering, nuclear physics (want to do something with nuclear energy), and probably chemisty also.
if you take it you will be destroying my dreams.
Hehe, wouldn't wanna do that, mate.
For a refreshing look at the facts, written by an Associate Professor of Statistics from Denmark, get a copy of "The Skeptical Environmentalist" by Bjorn Lomborg.
I bought this book myself just recently and haven't had a chance to get very far into it but the author certainly corrects and clarifies a lot of the nonsense spouted by would-be 'authorities' on the state of the planet.
Even from the small part I've read so far, it's clear some parties have a vested interest in exaggerating the negative aspects of almost everything. It's pleasing to see that, at last, we may be reaching a turning point where people are questioning the constant barrage of bad news and the motives of its authors.
I agree with you there Shaun, The Skeptical Environmentalist is a very enlightening book.
Question? Where does the nutrient solution come from?
Can't remember,
it said in earlier in the thread didn't it?
But a good strategic board game could keep me busy for months. The young generation would probably just bring a PC and a heap of computer games.
I'll challenge you to a game of Risk. :laugh:
*Wow...you must have gobbled that book down quickly; over 800 pages, right? What an interesting sensation those books have provoked. I was in a bookstore this past weekend; in a corner, curled up with "Order of the Phoenix," was a sandy-haired little boy, with the bag and sales slip at his side; I guess his parent or guardian was still browsing the store, but he sure wasn't wasting any time digging in! It's great to see people eagerly reading, regardless of age. Kudos to JK Rowling!
--Cindy
I could've read the book faster but my mother kept on nicking it whenever I put it down.
I've started reading the series again, and i've found all these places where the plot is slightly mismatched. For example, in the first book Harry starts learning about Jupiter's moons, but in book five he's still having trouble with which one is Europa or Io. I thought that was rather amusing.
I just read the new Harry Potter book.
It's good... truly. :;):
Very true, I don't think anybody wants to see our civilization self-destruct.
But how the hell do you stop the killing in countries where there are dictators or like Israel, a country completely set into the notion of eye-for-and-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth?
For example, sitting back and letting Saddam murder 'his' people does about the same to world peace as going in a taking his regime out. The only real difference is people died for a cause when Iraq was invaded, instead of dieing needlessly at the hands of a murderer.
That explains it all
But isn't the only thing in a neutron star exactly that - neutrons?
Are these like neutron organisms?
I like the idea about growing meat in a nutrient solution. I love meat, but I can't bring myself to kill an animal.
Hehe, I can imagine pulling a fresh sirloin steak out of a broth.