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NASA May Have Destroyed Evidence for Organics on Mars 40 Years Ago
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While the existence of native carbon-based organic compounds on the Red Planet was confirmed only in 2014, some suggest that the discovery could have been made a long time ago.
Back in 1976, NASA's twin Viking landers touched down on Mars to find out if life could survive on Mars and whether there was organic matter in the Martian soil. Researchers were puzzled as no evidence for organic molecules were found, because they believed that organics had been delivered to the planet by carbon-rich meteorites.
"It was just completely unexpected and inconsistent with what we knew," Chris McKay of NASA's Ames Research Center told New Scientist.
So much for the rover that just suffered a deadth in the recent dust storm as that was what it had also detected....
It's easy to understand why all the monitor screens at Mission Control were all turned to the red hue. Good heavens, can you imagine if true color images of the surface were let loose on the streets of earth, people would be lining up to take a vacation!
From the late thirties, the ruse (rouge) was to be maintained at all costs!
In the image file PIA02405 there is a considerable greenish hue to many of the rocks seen here in corrected color.
I think I am pretty close to real surface light and color condition relative of course to the time of day. D/l the image and focus on both the red and blue rocks as a good indicator balance.
The image that comes up was a reminder to old mars canals as seen in the early telescopes from the 1400 to 1600 maps.
Another thing about the link was the video format was not recognized...
Here's a link for an mp4, please let me know if you any problems.
A timed .gif into a short video with adjusted colors (reduced red hue).
This planet is not red and has beautiful regions similar to Earth!
Place on "loop" and 1080p
Sorry for the mod but the link set off the norton intrusion detection to block a Fake tech support
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Absolutely fascinating and much to consider, thanks gentlemen for these recent posts.
....911, has a nice ring to it, three digits?
Tmcom,
Do you have any idea how many unwilling participants have to remain silent to suppress any discovery of life on Mars?
All of the other space agencies would have to remain silent, too. I find that hard to believe.
Do you believe those of us who have worked for our government aren't human?
NASA found some unexplained methane sources and they went to the press and suggested that it could be signs of life after they did their best to rule out other possibilities.
I very much favor the idea that Mars has life, but I don't think we've found anything yet because our equipment is too primitive. If you have better equipment, then please share. If not, then you'll just have to wait until our government space exploration agency can find something definitive. Maybe SpaceX will beat them to it. Anything is possible, but it's most likely that NASA / JPL is the space exploration outfit that has the right tools for the job.
Yes, it's called "strategic compartmentalization" and it's the same with all the other agencies. And besides, most all the people employed are specialists in their field who have spent a life time with that target career position in mind, the last people on earth who would question authority and is ALL about the illusion of authority isn't it?
As for methane...baby steps, baby steps, a nice cerebral Delta that really didn't get too much press.
We haven't officially found anything because the government(s) and their agencies want it that way, simple.
Yes, there is better equipment to see the results of life on Mars and its been there for some time, it's the MRO. If you want to see life on Mars, then this is your tool and there are many images with a resolution of around 60cm to 80cm across AND in 3D!
I guess that they need to be careful as to how much BS, they dish out?
The lowest natural temperature ever directly recorded at ground level on Earth is −89.2 °C (−128.6 °F; 184.0 K), at the Soviet Vostok Station in Antarctica, on July 21, 1983. Analysis of satellite data has indicated a probable temperature of around −93.2 °C (−135.8 °F; 180.0 K), also in Antarctica, on August 10, 2010; however, this has not been confirmed by ground
With NASA saying -81 °F, being the norm, (for mars). Satellite temp's were -89 °F, for the lowest temp,s on Earth for Antarctica, in the 80's, and as we know, there is little to nothing growing there, becuase of the harsh temp's and wind.
Maybe these temp's only last for a small period of time, (as the blue/purple sunset one) or NASA is up to their old tricks, but either way l have trouble with -80 °F, when l see a lush green landscape.
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Let's assume for arguments sake that there's a far denser atmosphere with sporadic water downpours possibly torrential as we see in the western US deserts.
As here on Earth we see massive variances in temperatures, I see no reason why the equatorial regions, especially in and around the Melas plains, just south of the equator could be a consistent daytime balmy 60 degrees Fahrenheit.
Typical NASA speak when they say; "-81 °F, being the norm"?? If that's the "mean temperature" then I wonder what the temperature would maintain day/night in a "closed in 300 mile long, 70 miles wide trough that's 5 miles deep"?
Even in this color image of the trough, it looks to me like some form of chemical or biological effect on the lower surface region.
Following in the images from the provided link above, here are a few more that show the seasonal cycle of ice, water, dust storms...
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Nice images!
I know this has been addressed somewhere but I can't find anywhere talking about that atmospheric disturbance. It looks to me like that moisture band is being "pushed" over the greener locations directly below, I suppose that makes sense.
Still, a nice shot of that welcoming rich atmosphere I'd say.
I'm curious to know if there is any data for the density and composition readings at the base (4/5km from the rim) of this chasma as this "hole in the ground" is a 'trapped canyon' or Trough, without an inlet or escape route....relative to the surface density?
There appears from the ESA images, the base has a deep dark green hue and could be biological.
Is this Chasma a perfect Aquarium for life in a 5 mile deep atmospheric fish bowel?
And what a place to land on that perfect Mesa!
Perhaps a little side step here talking about craters. This is a video I produced a few years back focusing on a very strange crater located in the Meridiani Planum region which I took the liberty of naming "RAT Crater".
I really hope you have a pair of red/cyan glasses for this one, as this is truly a whopping mind blower!
The video starts out in 3D and ends in 2D but please watch in 1080p to get "into" the crater.
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Just looking at some of the Curiosity images on my computer and noticed this beautiful Marscape with awesome "depth of field"
Look at those hills in the background, looks a tad green to me.
And this forum is like a glass of water in the desert, or a place where we can discuss this without endless troll-like behavior designed to intimidate and bully you into giving up.
And l agree if a millionaire got of their a***es and put some serious cash into this they could get to Mars and blow the lid on all of this.
Hey Tmcom, that's good to know re. this forum.
Reading your post's, I sense you are an advocate for biological life on the planet? And btw I am too, so you'll find no psychotic trolling from me in any shape or form.
So, vegetation and microbes are one thing but I'd like to share thoughts on intelligent life anywhere up from potential small surface creatures to advanced intelligent life.
I really like your approach to images; close magnification and patience is rewarding and you've shown that.
I have a question, should we show any images (evidence) either from "surface or satellite" which you feel show intelligent design in one form or another?
Or should that subject be moved to a different forum?
Cheers,
Mal
Can chlorophyll be observed from 170 miles up?
The color green seen in many of your posts looks to indicate possible photosynthesis. It's frustrating however, to see why almost all of the lander images are so heavily blotched with jpeg compression's. IMO, this is totally unacceptable from NASA considering there are super clear uncompressed shots of ground level acquisitions available.
I bumped into a few ESA images of Echus Chasma recently which is located in an interesting orientation on the Martian surface relative to the ominous Hebes Chasma where again, IMO has many examples of intelligent life exist. (more on that to come).
Oblique perspective of Echus Chasma.
Although the ESA images leave much to be desired in terms of resolution, seen here is what looks to be considerable vegetation.
Looking at the MRO images is more rewarding especially in the color swaths for the color green. In the images below taken on the 28th April 2009, these enchanting images, when color corrected, show remarkable detail of what possibly may reveal actual plant growth of some kind. Certainly, there are liquid "run off's" stemming from the strata there.
https://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_012915_1800
The color image acquired by the MRO of a swath over the Melas plains just south of Hebes Chasma seems to show considerable green blotches even at close magnification.
In the rectangle, the section is color corrected.
Those valleys are covered in a green substance.
Ok,
An advanced race on Mars is highly likely. As is water and alligators, lol.
You saw that huh....wait to you see the images of lions and tigers and bears.....
kbd512
It is important to understand that NASA is a government agency ostensibly under the control of the US intelligence.
Bottom line is that NASA lies and has always lied, IMO.
The strength of your conviction is that "if" NASA is hiding things, they are not doing a very good job". On the contrary, they are, and have been doing an excellent job of covering up realities. In fact a superb job in as much of "not being water tight". If they did, it would be suspicious. These are only measured "drops of reality" and is a very effective method.
One needs to try and place oneself in the position of "Joe Dumb" an not an "intelligent person on a Mars forum".
This is the massive segment of US society which has no clue, except for the patriotic following (most all) who would NEVER dream of actually questioning the almighty NASA. It just simply would not even cross their mind.
IMO, if the World's government's (the important one's) came together under the auspice of a select few (in the US mainly) and wanted to show an entirely different Mars to the world public, trust me they could. The trick in its success, is repeatability of the cover story.
Americans in particular, are extremely gullible. Not that they are more gullible than other nationalities but Americans are fed a continuous diet of "the American way" and as a result, are NOT interested in any other "ways" that could interfere with the payment of their 30 year mortgage. Cognitive Dissonance 101.
The "Red Planet"....just as were the "Red Indians".
Thanks,
Mal
Nestled among the rocks across from Opportunity, if you look real close, you can see the skull of an alligator type creature which scales out correctly. I found this little gem several years ago. There's considerably more to be found in this crater if you look real close.
The two arrows are pointing to locations which definitely appear to have been erased. Must have been damning.
Some suggest that the staining brine streaks are from water so its got a small water table in places but its mostly deeper than what we would see here on Earth due to mars gravity.
Yes, live dead nuts center over a water table here in Malibu Canyon, California. Makes for an an interesting ride when Gaia decides to shudder, all manner of things surface? In the presence of what appears to be silica or marbling, could those eruptions be perhaps precious metal of sorts?
I've taken a few snap shots of this same image region above and looking close up, have astonishing tales to tell. So again, all from the same escarpment...
And for those whose heartbeat chimes to a more esoteric note, if you can grasp the center "piece" in the image below, then you have the gift.
Tmcom
Pretty sure that those are Curiosity's reflection, well reasonably sure, but the first is Curiosity's camera turrent being reflected back, (grays have slanted or teardrop eyes).
And the alien according to Stephen Greer, all attempts to discearn the DNA of the object, have been botched, so as usual we have no hard evidence, it can be dismissed as an aborted fetus, and the masses can go back to sleep.
Sure they could be on Mars, but all of the aliens sniffing about the rover, l have found are white, some with striped necks, and all with black teardrop eyes.
I have certainly learned from posting the UFO, Apollo proof, elsewhere that stupid has no limits, as does stupid people attacking, and stupid/scared forget it, that is getting into bullet in the head territory.
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Here's an anaglyph of the region discussed earlier showing the culprit anomaly in both left and right mast cams. Due to the lousy compression artifacts on the left mast camera, it makes for interesting 3D....but inconclusive.
Anaglyph glasses req.
Perhaps a little off topic but here'e a copy of Dr Greer's most recent response to Nolan et al I thought an interesting read. I'm keeping a eye on his pressure from this point.
Well this is truly fascinating stuff alright.... in many ways consistent with recent findings of a "cosmic origin" shoved into the bag tagged "miniature". Do we have history at our fingertips?
I laugh because I think these color Curiosity shots are possibly "full" of these little fellas! So now we know what to look for.... time to get the Visine out.
The image below tagged: "Fower"
Here's the recent find along this rocky bank. Btw, does anyone have the NASA raw image file URL for this sol?
Just got this off the net today from Gigapan http://gigapan.com/galleries/13375/gigapans so tampering seems very low.
Three magnifications below going in.
Take a closer look at this image below again. Notice that the .jpeg compression has cut the little guy almost in half so his/her "legs: are somewhat "disconnected below".
This confirms for me, my suspicions I had when that so called "jelly doughnut" rock appeared then disappeared. I think we can expect many more of these mischievous tricksters to turn up in the very near future.
Here's the image of the glowing Dough "Nut" on the left....
Mars' Thirsty Rocks Doomed Red Planet to Dryness
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This illustration shows Mars through time: Current Mars — red, dead and dry on the left — in contrast with the same landscape covered in water early in the planet's history, more than 3 billion years ago.Mars rocks may harbor signs of life from 4 billion years ago
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The Jezero Crater delta, a well-preserved ancient river delta on Mars. Iron-rich rocks near ancient lake sites on Mars could hold vital clues that show life once existed there, research suggests.Mars rocks from lake beds may reveal signs of past life
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"There are many interesting rock and mineral outcrops on Mars where we would like to search for fossils, but since we can't send rovers to all of them we have tried to prioritise the most promising deposits based on the best available information,Mars Rocks Could Hold Vital Clues to Life On Red Planet NASA’s Mars 2020 rover—which are designed to search for signs of life. This life, if it exists, will likely take the form of tiny microbes, scientists think
The image above with that ominous peak (Mt.Sharpe?) in the background is too red obviously.
There's quite a few really good imaging programs out there, I personally prefer Irfanview for its "Auto Color Correction" algorithm and seems right on the money on my monitor.
The higher magnifications on the bottom left corner reveals clearly some very facinating shades of green and even grey. FMP, those rocks have something green embedded on the surface. Green is what?
This image anomaly has me rubbing my eyes...
Such incredible rock art!
SpaceNut wrote:Ok, SpaceNut, thanks but it wasn't my image, l will try to find the original image today, and show the dissected one here.
And thanks for the sponge images, l will keep an eye out.
But l agree exciting find to know that Mars does have life on it, but also disturbing that NASA says nothing.
I understand why they are releasing it like this, so people that don't suffer from any mental barriers, can see what is really there, and won't be shocked when the big announcement happens, (which is inevitable).
The 1957 report that says that mass riots and so forth would ensue if everyone was told about this, still rings in NASA's ears, so about 15 years before full disclosure, we get a trickle, so intelligent individuals can learn the truth and others that are determined not to, will be in for a hell of a shock in the not to distant future.
But by then we and others will be relatively informed, hopefully most?
And the handful of the rest, hopefully won't go ga -ga enough to cause any serious damage?
If you would have asked me 5 years ago, I might have had a more positive mind towards full Disclosure, but we assume so much......that Mars is a planet with no intelligent life and once we on earth, get the the full low down on what's really on the surface and the dread that it may cause . FMP, it's not going to be pretty.
The meeting with Richard Thieme is speaking of, was concerning images of Mars.
Here's a trick of the light illusion, and an interesting revelation on this controversial "starburst" Curiosity image.
It's hard to catch this but the white streak on the left of that rock shadow is actually; a residue flow from a rock opening just above. (lower image)
The image below has the gamma reduced 50% which accentuates the flow until it divide's at the lower fork.
A liquid trace pattern I think.
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A second revelation:
I don't have the file number handy but the image above is quite controversial.
The steps are as follows from the OVER RED HUE of the NASA image.
1. Use Irfanview's excellent 1 step "Auto Color Correction Tool"
2. Reduce the gamma 50%Interestingly this shows the "starburst or star-man" dissimilar to the surrounding grey/green rock strata.
I have not used ANY color enhancement tools at all and the data is showing this "face" in it's true color.
The face does not look like a local rock protrusion and is most strange indeed.
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The sectioned rectangle below has a further 1 step "Auto Color Correction Tool" which automatically increases contrast and hue correction. NO other tools are applied to these images an are the natural in-situ colors from the color images from NASA....so I believe.
FMP this looks very much like the head/face/neck of a animal-like being caught in the act of poking it's head out at the right time LOL!
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Well I certainly do not believe the "thing" in the above images looks like a crab, how preposterous!
Maybe it's a real live pareidolia!!!
Here's a nice piece brought to you by world leading Coincidence Theorist's
http://time.com/3982146/mars-crab-monster/
Could this really be a live being of some sort poking it head and torso out of an opening it the rock strata? And...where NASA has dolloped a "yellow haze" over the data point to blur it in with the surrounding "red hue" only to backfire when that red hue of the entire image is turned down leaving the tell tale yellow blur to tell the tale? Sure looks like it to me.
Here's a trick of the light illusion, and an interesting revelation on this controversial "starburst" Curiosity image.
It's hard to catch this but the white streak on the left of that rock shadow is actually; a residue flow from a rock opening just above. (lower image)
The image below has the gamma reduced 50% which accentuates the flow until it divide's at the lower fork.
A liquid trace pattern I think.
A second revelation:
I don't have the file number handy but the image above is quite controversial.
The steps are as follows from the OVER RED HUE of the NASA image.
1. Use Irfanview's excellent 1 step "Auto Color Correction Tool"
2. Reduce the gamma 50%
Interestingly this shows the "starburst or star-man" dissimilar to the surrounding grey/green rock strata.
I have not used ANY color enhancement tools at all and the data is showing this "face" in it's true color.
The face does not look like a local rock protrusion and is most strange indeed.
The sectioned rectangle below has a further 1 step "Auto Color Correction Tool" which automatically increases contrast and hue correction. NO other tools are applied to these images an are the natural in-situ colors from the color images from NASA....so I believe.
FMP this looks very much like the head/face/neck of a animal-like being caught in the act of poking it's head out at the right time LOL!