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and what point would that be, my mysticist aquaintence?

What?  What would cause NASA to focus research on legs between now and Mars when they crap themselves just playing with the ISS!

And I am 110% positive that my beliefs are where the 3 intersect.

Patrick Henry and Thomas Jefferson were living under an oppresive British crown when they said those things.  And colonial states weren't being bombed by foreign terrorists.  Nor were any other nations at that time.

And my question still stands:

What good are the rights in our constitution if we can't defend them?

Clark wrote:

I can't prove that my truth is any more correct than anyone elses, but I still know it is.  It's called faith.  I accept one truth over another out of nothing but a feeling and a hunch.  It's called faith.  I blindly throw my beliefs out on the table without anything to back them up with.  It's called faith.

You don't have to choose one over the other; it's just the same as choosing not to believe anything at all.

Because computers get outdated with every passing day, and your new computer games run slower and slower.  Game platforms don't get surpassed for at least 18 months, and it remains very current for about 36 months.

A new computer costs $1000... a PS2 costs $150.

The Sims expansion packs cost $39... a PS2 game costs $35.

My underlying point was, if you're bored, there are a million ways to stay entertained.  Pick one besides using tobacco, please Pagan.

Let's not put the cart in front of the horse... have you seen the "latest" crawler on a scale of that size at MIT(?)?  It had six legs, and it takes about 90 seconds to move one leg out in front of the others and stabilize it.  I would much rather use a rover for the non-rocky areas of Mars

Get a job and buy a PS2...

In this new day and age of terrorism, we have to relinquish some of our rights to ensure our protection.  Do I care if the FBI, or the CIA, or INS or Department of Homeland Security have a file on me?  No.  Why?  Because I know that I'm not plotting or conspiring with terrorists, and I have nothing to fear.

I do think for myself.  But the conservative point of view matches my personal beliefs in 99.9% of the time.  Really the only thing I disagree with my party on is farm subsidies, where I take a slightly-left viewpoint.

Did I say Arabs are the only ones who can't renew their visas?  Nope.  Most Arabs can fill out a form and have it processed ahead of time, like a lot of other immigrants.  I've been saying all along that we don't treat Arabs any differently, and when we get illegal Mexicans, Cubans, Chinesee etc., we do the same thing and deport them.

You guys are still really paranoid of this country becoming a KGB-Twilight-Zone nightmare.  Yes, our freedoms may change a bit to protect us, but it won't come near a Stalinist Russia.  People will still be able to speak out against the government, and hold peace rallies in public, and believe in their own religion without interference from the government.  BUT WHAT THE HELL BIT OF GOOD DOES OUR CONSTITUTION DO IF WE CAN'T DEFEND IT?!

That's why the authors of our constitution left so many back-doors and checks and balances... to keep this from happening.

AltToWar, I'm not going to let you drag me through the mud like you have before.  I don't call your party names, and I don't know why you have all this unbridled hate for someone you've never even met, let alone a teenager that was trying to have a civilized debate with people he thought were at a higher level.  Thank you for crushing my hopes you bastard.

I'm still waiting for some hardcore liberal to respond to why liberalism pisses me off.  And you still have these paranoid fantasies about the government having a black list, like this is Stalinist Russia.  Get a life.   Do you honestly think that the government and our leaders are in office dreaming about persecuting non-americans?  It's alright to question the status quo, but damn dude, you really ARE scared of the black helicopters coming to get you (don't worry, son, they don't exist.  Only those jug-headed rednecks that throw bricks through Arab's windows believe in them!)

I used to have no faith my generation's ability to lead when the time comes, but that fear has been erased by your commments, alt.  What a miserable existence it must be to live in constant fear of your elected leaders...

the converse is true as well.  China only spends $11-$50 per person because they have 1.2 billion people.  And being totalitarian, as you have claimed, they should also have full control of funding.

Sorry, Josh.  I couldn't see all the way back to when that post was made.  AltToWar made the comment.  Sorry everybody...???