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#226 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-11-11 08:48:04

louis wrote:

There's a very, very thin atmosphere on Mars. Everyone knows that! What are you claiming? Just be specific. Are you claiming there is no atmosphere, some atmosphere, an Earth-like atmosphere or something else.

jorgear wrote:
Tmcom wrote:

Agreed, the Viking probes used several parachutes, to land in the 70's, which should require massive parachutes if the atmosphere is so thin?

I might do a comparison to see just how much oxygen and supposedly high levels of CO2, is needed for a landing of such probes.

Can a parachute open if there is no atmosphere on Mars?? The parachute would be useless. This is a good question, I think it is another show of NASA to laugh at us.

Be specific, l will let this thread take care of that!

#227 Re: Terraformation » 97% CO2 atmosphere » 2019-11-10 20:45:14

Calliban wrote:
jorgear wrote:

????

The atmosphere is thin, contains very little water vapour and the planet is 50% further from the sun than Earth.  Without oceans, the surface of the planet has very little thermal inertia, causing temperatures to drop to very low levels at night.  Whilst carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, it is not the only heat trapping mechanism at work in Earth's atmosphere.  And being 50% further from the sun, it would take huge amounts of greenhouse gases, shutting off the entire infrared spectrum, to make Mars as warm as Earth.

Groan, l would advise you to go to post #1, (mars stealth thread) and then comment. Can't have water drops on the rover, or a blue sky or...... Mars 97% CO2 is rubbish, as are a lot of other things, the truth is, the desert areas of Mars can drop down to -2 or maybe -4 at night, as the plant life could not exist with -200. And the atmosphere, (which is thicker than ours, going by Hubble images) is closer to 18% oxygen, with whatever, probably 15 - 17%, (Earth has 18%), and a lighter gravity. And rain!


jorgear wrote:

If the climate change is true and we are fighting against more CO2 in the atmosphere, if CO2 contributes to the global warming... how is it possible that almost all the atmosphere of Mars is composed by CO2 and it does not have extreme temperatures??? Mars should be a very hot planet!! However this is not certain. Is the climate change a lie and more CO2 does not contribute to more hot temperatures?? or maybe the atmosphere of Mars does not contain too much CO2 such as NASA tells us????

#228 Terraformation » 97% CO2 atmosphere » 2019-11-09 21:01:32

Tmcom
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Can a parachute open if there is no atmosphere on Mars?? The parachute would be useless. This is a good question, I think it is another show of NASA to laugh at us.

True, l went through a PDF of Viking, but mars supposedly has a 97% CO2 atmosphere, and it is supposedly thin, so eventhough a supposed near vacuum atmosphere, would be pushing three parachutes, it is a hard one to prove, especially to the faithful. And since Viking had mini rockets for the last 3000 feet, not something that is worth bringing up.


louis wrote:

There's a very, very thin atmosphere on Mars. Everyone knows that! What are you claiming? Just be specific. Are you claiming there is no atmosphere, some atmosphere, an Earth-like atmosphere or something else.

jorgear wrote:
Tmcom wrote:

Agreed, the Viking probes used several parachutes, to land in the 70's, which should require massive parachutes if the atmosphere is so thin?

I might do a comparison to see just how much oxygen and supposedly high levels of CO2, is needed for a landing of such probes.

Can a parachute open if there is no atmosphere on Mars?? The parachute would be useless. This is a good question, I think it is another show of NASA to laugh at us.

Can't have tree's on a near vacuum atmosphere or animals, or rain, so l am going with Earth like atmosphere, although Mars probably has less gravity than earth, and slightly less oxygen.

Strange being on Mars?

Nice, but not a strange being jorgear, it is another letterbox or totempole to signifying a house or business, (you can see the framework supporting this, just).

Or more good evidence to support current habitation, and that the rover quite ironically is driving on a dirt road.

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#229 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-11-09 03:30:49

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Ok, tried distortion correcting the previous image, with three distinctive tree's appearing, (well, NASA colored two in).

The tree on the left is the most obvious.

And some of the landscape is misted or whitened out, which is either mist or rain, (probably mist, since the sun is setting.

But the tree does not seem to be a tall prickle, so this could be the first good example of a martian tree, or maybe pine tree.

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PS l also looked into Viking but it also had rockets when landing, so not a good example of atmosphered drag, or lack theiroff.

#230 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-11-08 04:22:08

Pretty cool finds today, but as usual worst to best...

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First this martian tree, sculpture with moss, or all three, but either way, with the CP showing a strong green it is a plant.

The second truly has some weird stuff.

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Bottom images show tracks, or what looks like animal tracks up the top and bird ones further down, (there is also a lot of distortion near the lower object, or NASA blurred it to hide something.

And top image truly weird, or it looks like a giant upturned flour shovel, plouring along the martian surface? With the things on the left, being beats me.

The large thing may also be a structure with fluffy tree's in front.

And now my favorite one, or one of the key reasons l keep doing this, to get a glimpse of the real mars.

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TOp, left, overcast sky, left, more sculpture/trees, and lower down this cool one.

Mars rover, blue thing in the middle, left a tall plant or prickle, (CP shows strong grass green at its base, so it a a plant, and the rover ignores it, lol). Other ones more plants or prickles growing out of the rocks, with a blue mountain in the background.

Right a lot more blurrier or darker or probably being drenched.

Top with the red arrow, l would love to say, martian sculpture, but it is a reflection, (the rover is the mouth).

NASA paints Mars as a dead rock, reality paints Mars, as the second Earth like planet in our solar system, or back yard, lol.

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#231 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-11-04 20:39:07

SpaceNut wrote:

What is also funny is the siezmic unit is also seeing the disturbance as well from air that we can not seem to use a parachute in if its normal size. It was also meantion that the plasma shield is not erroding when the suns win speeds pick up.

Agreed, the Viking probes used several parachutes, to land in the 70's, which should require massive parachutes if the atmosphere is so thin?

I might do a comparison to see just how much oxygen and supposedly high levels of CO2, is needed for a landing of such probes.

#232 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-11-04 04:15:15

Not much with the rover, so l tried Insight.

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First image didn't have any BS red/orange filter for a change, and apart from showing a bright sun setting, or no blue everything, it probably also shows a rain cloud passing by, well the link going to the animation probably does.

https://mars.nasa.gov/resources/22441/i … te=insight

And the rest show the probe in the ground and the right hand image clearly showing the setting sun, as does the shadows, and yet again, no blue sun, or landscape.

Looks like NASA is softening up.

PS this site also has some wind sounds, wind with no atmosphere, lol.

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#233 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-11-03 20:39:04

jorgear wrote:

Probably an ancient remains of a town or city, but l wouldn't say Mars Atlantis.

And the hounddog factory is actually supported by 4 huge legs, rather like what our Eiffel tower has, and some giant dome below it, which would have to be at least 10 or more storys high, to see it from orbit.

Unlikely, even if it is supported directly underneath, that a giant steel framework could support the equivalent of a 2 or more story building and the dog sculpture on top for half a million years.

This has to be a recent or current structure, showing that Mars has a civilization and shares a lot of the animal and plant life we have.

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#234 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-29 21:28:22

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First obvious structure, second maybe, third, a shiny object with a group of plants or tree's, or this could be a body of water, last, seriously looks like a group of tree's with someone or something pulling them up around this area.

A lot like what farmers do on earth.

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Looks like lettering, with two "s" or "5" standing out, next from the top, a giant pipe sticking out of this dam, which appears to be almost full, (and from the edges there is a lot of sand around this, or most likely it is salt).

More good traces of ancient dwellings, and this, which, l believe is a depiction of a hound Dog, (the eyes and nose are clearly visible as are the ears, with possibly another face further down. Probably a dog food factory.

And this which may be ancient, but with the factory is probably recent or current, or the reason l was going with ancient is the walkway, (arrow) is broken, but it could be under construction, but very unlikely this is natural.

Last a giant retaining wall, and most likely more water.

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#235 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-28 22:02:40

Thanks, the video played in this link, and yes, he is onto something, some is conjecture and some dismissed, but some, phew, l will look into it and post my findings here.

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#236 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-28 20:29:43

Thanks Spacenut, but the video won't play, so hopefully you could find the image, that would be great.

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#237 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-28 20:13:22

Also a note to everyone discussing this elsewhere or similar subjects, is that some who deny all of my and others findings, may be clinically insane, and no matter how good the evidence will refuse to see it.

I had such an runin recently, or presented obvious evidence that is wasn't true, and had more and more insane remarks given, to the point that they convinced me that they needed to see a psychiatrist immediately.

I have blocked them or him, as their insanity was affecting my health, but suffice to say, some skeptics are insane and no amount of evidence will sway them.

I keep making the mistake that evidence equals truth, but for some evidence equals digging in and creating insane rebuttals.

I won't mention the forum, but it isn't the one where l use a winking smiley on, when posting here.

I have learned that human stupidity is infinate, and getting into a conversation with these types, does nothing except making them angry and giving them an opportunity to show how insane they are while maintaining their point of view.

Or in other words don't engage an idiot, forget, walk away, ignore or block are the only courses of action.

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#238 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-28 19:57:00

tahanson43206 wrote:

For tmcom ... my apologies for intruding on the topic here ...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lessons-15-r … 40692.html

While I sympathize with the creative nature of the topic under your leadership, I am hoping you will be willing to allow Steve Squires a chance to contribute.

Dr. Squires just took a position with Blue Origin, as Chief Scientist. 

The key quote from the article above is that Dr. Squires does not think Mars is suitable for permanent life by humans (as it exists now).

(th)

Sure, l will let you post, (this is an open forum) but he is wrong, (predominantly CO2, atmosphere, and minus 80 at night is nonsense). I have shown overwhelming evidence that mars has vegetation, and very likely fern type plants, so minus 2 at night or a typical night on earths desert areas is closer to the truth, as is an atmosphere with around 18% oxygen, or similar to earths, (also found overwhelming evidence that mars has life on it now.

And mars also has rain or rain clouds, or water drops don't appear on the rover by themselves.

Best to go to post one, to get up to speed.

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#239 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-28 03:57:49

jorgear wrote:

This image of Google Mars shows everything that happened on Mars in the long past. How is it possible, if NASA recognises that Mars had a very dense atmosphere, that those craters were formed on the surface of one of Mars' faces? How is it possible that no craters on the north part of the planet? Because the big ocean existed in the north of the planet. Impossible that craters be formed into the water of the ocean. This image reveals the catastrophe of Mars after Maldek's destruction, those craters were formed by the impacts of the remains of Maldek. Even Mars's rotation axe was changed after the cataclysm.


http://laguerrademarte.mex.tl/imagesnew … bardeo.png

Thanks, good supportive evidence.

#240 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-26 06:51:49

jorgear wrote:

We will have to await two more years until astronauts land on Mars in 2035 https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/nasa-aims … s-by-2035/

Thanks for the info, Tmcom. Really interesting what you tell. Sooner or later they will even have to recognise that Mars' surface is full of radioactive substances, what will make life on the surface impossible. That is another point to take into account.

Yee's, but l was talking about NASA doing mars on the cheap and quick side, or just circling mars, and landing on one of its moons, (its moons are low gravity) with the monolith. HD images of that with, most likely encryption hieroglyphs, on one of its side's, (l RV'ed that, or most likely a sun god depiction) will blow the lid on this entire stickin coverup.

I expect that a few years later, the truth about mars, will surface, then getting to mars will be easy and reasonably quick after that, (no more billions and rockets).

Every time l Remote View, the future the year 2033, stands out, like something huge is going to happen, and l have also RV, the year 2050, or the same shopping centre area, with grays walking among us, and no one cared.

Our world of old will be turned on its head, as will the stubbornly, stupid, and suppressed systems that are buried now, will get us out of the dark ages, (which we are presently in) and into the light.

#241 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-26 02:18:41

A sunshower on mars today.

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Left shows some recent water runoff, and right shows the sky, with some rain bearing clouds.

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And this one shows the sun setting over a green landscape and a single water drop on one of the rovers wheels.

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#242 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-25 20:33:15

Yes, they have been lying since Roswell, or the late 1950's, or they wanted to land near Mars pyramids, then got spooked, and landed in a dull area, (but as l have shown on this thread, they also landed near a green area, or plant life).

And the oven experiment could have been easily faked, so why the big deal, when mars is close to us, it obviously has a blue atmosphere and green areas, which means it very likely has similarities with earth.

Common sense, right, but not in our brainwashed for life, obvious evidence isn't evidence if l don't want it to be, gang.

And if mars is earthlike then it could have intelligent life on it, which opens the door to new, clean energy systems, and our oil profits going into the sewer, (the key reason for all of this suppression, brainwashing the herd, that are up to mentally disturbed levels at present).

So it seems that 70% believe in this sort of stuff, (if they see good evidence) and 30% are clinically insane, and no amount of evidence will ever be enough.

At least until they have no choice, or in 13 years!

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#243 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-21 04:09:20

jorgear wrote:

You are right, Tmcom. Next July NASA and other space agencies will launch more spacecrafts to Mars. If NASA does not acknoledge intelligent life on Mars, others like ESA or the Chinese space agency will. There is no turning back. And when all that is revealed, NASA will lose lots of followers that believed in them until today. That will be NASA's dead end.

Nice images there of the moon, especially the one on the right, second one down, that is clearly a structure. And no ESA, and others have made a pact, (protecting oil profits) so expect more of the same.

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More martian artwork.

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And this, which could be a spacecraft hovering above the surface of Mars, (maybe with an occupant) but impossible to confirm.

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#244 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-20 07:51:56

jorgear wrote:

NASA knows everything. But they "don't know, don't answer" as always.

There are alien bases on the moon, on Earth under the oceans, in caverns under the land.... what do they think we still don't know?

True, RV, goes both ways, but if they indoctrinate or brainwash someone for long enough, (as l have recently witnessed) then there is not enough evidence in the world that will change their minds.

Some have spent a lifetime, working on the premise that this life is all there is, and all conspiracy theory's are not valid, as they unsettle my world view, not show me the evidence and l will believe.

They may appear rational and with enough evidence reconsider, but that is a smokescreen, or even extremely obvious evidence that would convince anyone, would not convince them, they would just bring up irrational, insane rebuttals, which only reaffirms their insanity.


I have spent years trying to convince these types on the premise that if l came up with solid enough evidence they would change their minds, but know now, that the better the evidence the more they ignore, forget, attack or try to dismiss with insanity.


What we are going through now, is the Wright Brothers all over again, "there is good evidence to affirm a base on the moon, and structures around the moon, and Mars being Earthlike, and a legit UFO following the Apollo astranauts) and other things" but a percentage of our population cannot handle that.

Or they cannot handle a reality that is on their doorstep, or a reality that is inevitable, or maybe some will actually go insane, since they already are, or have been brainwashed for so long it is a way of life.

So interesting what he said in the video about the rover producing such low quality images, similar to red/orange filtering them, eventhough Mars has a blue astmosphere, but the brainwashed will buy anything NASA says.

NASA through trickle disclosure or credible deniability, is trying to soften the blow for these types, but they will never reach them, or all they are doing is wising up people like us, so when they show the lot, we can lasso the crazies, grabbing their torches and joining a gang of raiders to clobber a tv store.

Thankfully most believe in UFO's and most believe that Mars is more than NASA keeps telling them, so the crazies are in the minority!

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#245 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-19 05:27:13

Found this today, which add's some more credibility to the base on the far side of the moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE

So NASA knew about this in 1964, and quite ironically they could have landed near one of these structures, but as far as we know they didn't.

Also note they could read licence plate's from orbit, in 64, probably read newspaper text from orbit now.

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#246 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-16 04:10:48

Thanks Jorgear, but some of those are probably open to interpretation.

Ok, on the eve of getting over the 100k mark, l will thank admin, and viewing members for that, as well as others who l have invited from elsewhere.

I have put this subject on several forums, with most either bitching about one or several things, and l either gave up on it, or so many couldn't handle it, and got angry or nasty, (as is the case with most subjects of this kind) although one forum just got overrun with spam, and closed its doors. Or 59k, was as high as l got, so crossing the 100k mark is pretty cool. Thanks everyone! smile

Found a beautiful image of Mars today, bringing together my findings in one hit, but that one last.

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This shows the rover in the middle and beats me in the distance, abandoned machines at best guess.

Left shows this on the rock, which is to confirm the next image, (confirm that it is real, and not some rock detail).

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Top a large cloud, and a martian face, or sculpture on a steel pole, the rest are most likely plants.

And bottom images, or my favorite, showing the sun setting, a storm cloud on the right, raining heavily on the distant hills, and the white thing that is most likely a cotton type ball or flower, (there is a stem).

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#247 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-14 03:48:18

Ok, wall to wall plants today, (some show an unusually impressive view of life on another planet) eventhough it is closeby.

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This one shows this very tall prickle with, best guess mist at its base, but l have better examples, (and the CP shows lime green on most of these).

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This is my favorite one, or the top image shows a martian plant with something sticking out of it, and the image below shows another rock showing the same plant, (so it isn't some rock detail).

So this shows the sun setting, blue hills, and an assorted collection of tall an weird plant life.

Right hand image shows it upright, with maybe a gray sculpture up top, but either way it is a very tall plant that would send shockwaves around our planet, and the rover drives past it, unbelievable.

When this is realeased in 2033, it will be like the Wright Brothers flying their plane in public on steriods, or the brainwashed had plenty of hints but they waited til, they will have to get all of this in one hit.

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#248 Re: Space Policy » Proof That UFO's are Real! » 2019-10-13 10:20:51

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These two images show an F44, (the second shows and F45 range) for a camera or video camera, although these are more recent the Apollo one is older.

But they show that the best res, for the astranauts taking the video footage of the UFO, wasn't any more than 30 - 100 km's, (the hills wouldn't be any more than 30k,s away, but l have said 100.

So 100 km range to get the res, shown above, or even if l am out, and it could have been 300km's away or the same as a video camera trying to take an image of a clearly defined car on the hill, is pushing it, (or would most likely be more blurry).

So an object most likely no bigger than a car, (even if it was the panel) 11,000k's away with this level of details is impossible with the best distance view the Astronauts had at their disposal.

1000 would be pushing this idea as hard as it possible, 11,000km, is laughable. Or how can NASA intentionally lie, because the grays or reptilians threw them a curve ball, and they had to adlib, and did a p***pool job of it, but some will buy it as they always do.

So solid evidence that aliens are real and close by.

#249 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-13 09:41:10

jorgear wrote:

Thanks Tmcom.... Aldrin has several versions... but I think that Antarctica hides many secrets. And that there was an ancient civilization there. https://www.disclose.tv/did-martian-ref … ago-313467

He also kept saying that "it was highly likely that it was one of the panels" not, it definitely was.

And NASA also said it, eventhough it is virtually impossible for a panel, 11,000 kms away to show up in that much details with a 70's video camera; 3000km, maybe see a blurry dot with dark areas, 11k, a pinprick at best.

By Aldrin's and NASA's jokingly bad reason, they are admitting that they are lying and suppressing, and eventhough the brainwashed masses will go for it as usual, someone who can see the evidence, knows that UFO's are in our back yard as we speak, or most likely have a base on Earth and the Moon.

#250 Re: Pictures of Mars » The Real Mars » 2019-10-13 04:44:35

jorgear wrote:

Regarding the Nazi-Reptilian alliance, Tmcom, this sure interests you https://www.exopolitics.org/reptilian-a … ntarctica/

Posted this some time ago, which is most likely a craft from the reptilian base in Antarctica, in 1969. Well, it is definitely a UFO, from Earth.

http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=8020

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