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#1 2007-05-16 17:01:44

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Re: Generating hydrogen by pouring water onto an aluminum alloy

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007a/0705 … rogen.html

It's an aluminum/gallium alloy so the aluminum oxide doesn't form a skin that prevents further oxidation.  You're basically burning the aluminum in water to create hydrogen for fuel.  Then you take the waste aluminum oxide and "recycle" it at a nuclear power plant to recreate the aluminum.  Essentially the aluminum acts as an energy storage mechanism - 2 kWh per pound vs. 6 kWh per pound for gasoline - not too bad.  The reaction also releases another 2 kWh per pound as heat.  I wonder if that is useful or just waste heat.


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#2 2007-05-21 06:30:51

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Re: Generating hydrogen by pouring water onto an aluminum alloy

Sounds good. Is it the gallium which makes this concept viable?


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#3 2007-05-21 06:48:01

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Re: Generating hydrogen by pouring water onto an aluminum alloy

Sounds good. Is it the gallium which makes this concept viable?

That's my understanding.  Usually an oxide layer forms which prevents further oxidation (usually a very good thing), but the gallium somehow prevents the oxide from blocking further oxidation so that the entire aluminum block can be used.


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#4 2007-05-21 23:47:17

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Re: Generating hydrogen by pouring water onto an aluminum alloy

I'm skeptical that this will be able to compete with lithium ion batteries as a storage mechanism. You have to keep replacing the aluminum, and the process is complicated and impossible to put aboard vehicles. Pulling the tank out of your car and putting a new one in every 350 miles is completely impractical.

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#5 2007-05-22 00:40:06

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Re: Generating hydrogen by pouring water onto an aluminum alloy

2000 Wh/lb vs. 60 Wh/lb (lithium ion) means there is plenty of incentive. 

It would definitely require a redesign of the fuel storage system.  Maybe you'd plug in the aluminum like a big battery.

You're right though - lot's of issues - not the least of which is that it generates hydrogen and oxygen.  You definitely want to do that in a very safe and controlled manner.


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