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#1 2006-01-13 15:25:34

flashgordon
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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

At the current rate of quantum computer and molecular manufacturing development, I think wormholes could be made more practical than a thousand miles of carbon tubes all the way to lagragian points; i been reading to the best of my ability all the wormhole activity at the main scientist e-mail exchange website, which recently moved to cornel instead of los alamos.  I actually have a copy of a military paper that some chump linked at space.com's messageboards.

I'd say that if quantum computers and molecular manufacturing are made before 2010, then wormholes can be more practical than space-elevators!(to build before 2020 is up)

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#2 2006-01-13 16:15:16

flashgordon
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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0512027

here's a latest article I found; i've been reading this stuff for a don't know how many years now; this article suggests why they havn't made a wormhole yet though(i had been wondering for a few years since the first time I found some of these articles why they havn't made one yet).

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#3 2006-01-13 22:45:27

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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0512027

here's a latest article I found; i've been reading this stuff for a don't know how many years now; this article suggests why they havn't made a wormhole yet though(i had been wondering for a few years since the first time I found some of these articles why they havn't made one yet).

Maybe, someone will mathematically show how a human traversable worm hole can be built within our physics. At least they will show it well enough that the best minds will not be able to find one hole in calculations. But to build it successfully in the real world anytime in the near future would be an absolute miracle. The thought of taking an idea which involves physics to such a high degree that most don’t understand and no one has observed the full consequences of and using it to engineer nature in a way that appears full of paradoxes is the kind of technology that by today’s standards is black magic.

Few if any massive engineering designs exactly match the finished project. The paper which you provided the link to says the wormhole must be very finely tuned. Is such precession physically possible to engineer? What are the consequences of not meeting this precession? How do observer our mistakes to learn from them? What could go wrong if we fail? Perhaps in theory we may be ready for wormholes in the near future but in practice we are a long ways away.


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#4 2006-01-14 09:21:12

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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

Yes, I suppose I remember subconsciously wondering whether it was a good idea to have a wormhole opened on or around the immediate vicinity of the earth; certainly, we don't need any more of our atmosphere warped to the far ends of the universe and god only knows what could get sucked back into our side of the hole!

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#5 2006-01-14 12:34:35

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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

How any movies and games are based on the premise that a portal was opened to a distant corner of the galaxy and the locals invaded through it?  big_smile


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#6 2006-01-27 16:27:45

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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

I thought you needed to harness the power of a star to do such things. A small uantum link for a Dirac type 'ansible' would be nice.

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#7 2006-02-10 10:28:19

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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

My favorite conspiracy theory of all time. We already got one and the reason that horrible show Stargate SG-1 is still running is to "break us in" to the concept that we have one. Thats the only way you can explain bad acting in television these days.

-FunkyJ

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#8 2006-02-17 16:15:35

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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

Four (more) words for you:

NOT**GOING**TO**HAPPEN.

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#9 2006-05-12 19:05:19

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Re: space elevators be damned; wormholes cometh!

Four (more) words for you:

NOT**GOING**TO**HAPPEN.

I kinda have to agree with publiusr on the matter of wormholes.  Theoretical possibilities aside...there aren't many black holes around.  The closest known is easily a few hundred, if not thousand, light years away.

If you believe in quantum wormholes or microblack holes, it'll be easily a century or two before we grasp quantum physics fully.  Unless we can find a way to make wormholes using more common stars (without detonating them into black holes preferably) like our Sol wormholes are about as useful as a yaht in a kiddie pool to put it bluntly.

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