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#1 2005-12-23 10:39:54

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Re: ESAS Report including

Executive Summary via SpaceRef


Give someone a sufficient [b][i]why[/i][/b] and they can endure just about any [b][i]how[/i][/b]

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#2 2005-12-24 10:24:14

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"Yes, I was going to give this astronaut selection my best shot, I was determined when the NASA proctologist looked up my ass, he would see pipes so dazzling he would ask the nurse to get his sunglasses."
---Shuttle Astronaut Mike Mullane

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#3 2005-12-27 10:57:46

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Executive Summary (Introduction-CEV): NASA Exploration Systems Architecture Study Final Report (DRAFT) October 2005

The Mars DRM, which was a short duration mission of only 1 to 2 days to and from an orbiting MTV, drove the design to accommodate a crew of six.

Capsule will go though at least 3 cycles of design changes as mission changes.

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#4 2005-12-28 06:47:42

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Next installment now available: NASA ESAS Final Report (DRAFT): TEXT OF FULL REPORT

Wow the full report in PDF format is 50 MB, spaceref has devided them up into small section but they are still pretty large.

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#5 2005-12-28 08:18:34

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Will be an interesting read!

But it looks like the .pdf's are locked, arg! No easy copy/pasteing possible, grrrr!

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#6 2005-12-28 11:49:47

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Must be a connection bandwidth problem. I have veiw the first 2 sections thus far.
I find this ones page 41 and 45 with is derivates with there indicated or expect failure modes of Loss of mission and loss of crew as part of the chart interesting.

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#7 2005-12-28 12:53:19

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I meant, if I copied from the .pdf, it won't work... That's a feature (sigh)  to protect copyright infringement... (DRM yay Grrr...)

Maybe it was just the one chapter that was locked inadvertedly, or a download going awkward...

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#8 2005-12-28 13:42:56

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Not sure which document you were looking at but you should be able to copy with the adobe select tool or by right clicking on what you are interested in. Once you have select copy you should be able to paste into any open word document. If you let me know which link maybe I can see if I have the same results that you have gotten.

This reports charts show the CLV and HLV as a pair. They seem to be about a billion per use if I am reading it correctly.

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#9 2005-12-28 14:13:23

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Acrobat Reader 7 seems to allow copy/paste.


"Yes, I was going to give this astronaut selection my best shot, I was determined when the NASA proctologist looked up my ass, he would see pipes so dazzling he would ask the nurse to get his sunglasses."
---Shuttle Astronaut Mike Mullane

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#10 2005-12-28 14:32:09

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Downloaded Acrobat Reader, disregard my grumblings  :oops:

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#11 2005-12-28 14:46:55

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Sounds good hope that works well on your computer sometimes the newer versions are just memory hogs and need lots more power than the old systems can give.

page 5 and 6 give the best look at how all the pieces will come together to make the CLV and HLV possible.

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#12 2005-12-28 14:56:13

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I was reading part 4 and it blew my socks off, but then I saw i was reading too fast, and most of the stuff were only rehashing older DRM and variants, heehee.

It's a LOT to read on screen and have a good idea of the overall picture...

The part about 2020 and permanent base, that was new to me, still not sure whether it's just a 'playing with ideas' or taken into serious consideration...

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#13 2005-12-30 16:07:05

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