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clark

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Re: Psychology - issues and concerns...

Educated middle class people do not appear overnight.

Perhaps a china that tries to achieve this objective, middle class people, in a methodical and practical way makes the most sense... something they seem to be doing.

It's interesting that you suggest that humanity can only improve under one culture, and that culture will be an American one, yet expect that at such time, we [americans] will give up our position and dominance. I'm not quite sure that american elites would do that.

My way of thinking is that Pax Americana is merely the world accepting America as the master. Perhaps more of the world would benefit, yet we would probably benefit the most.

All things being equal, we would still be more equal than others

Bill White

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However, this will not change until/unless a unified world culture develops and right now "Pax Americana" is the best bet for accomplishing that objective.

"best bet" was intended to mean "most likely" - not most moral or most desirable - I should have been more precise

It's interesting that you suggest that humanity can only improve under one culture, and that culture will be an American one, yet expect that at such time, we [americans] will give up our position and dominance. I'm not quite sure that american elites would do that.

My way of thinking is that Pax Americana is merely the world accepting America as the master. Perhaps more of the world would benefit, yet we would probably benefit the most.

All things being equal, we would still be more equal than others

For several years I have been thinking about the following proposition of moral philosophy:

"Genuine morality can only arise from the voluntary forebearance of the powerful" - -  Everything else is balance of power and game theory.

At times this seems self evident to me and at times it seems to be utter nonsense. I daresay, IMHO, that America is the nation most likely to follow this dictum, if compared with all nations existing throughout all recorded history, even if the odds of it so doing remain low.

Thus, *IF * Pax Americana becomes inevitable as a matter of geopolitical reality, *THEN * attempting to persuade ourselves to follow this course would seem the most moral course of action any one individual could follow. I fear that a destiny as predicted by George Orwell is quite plausible, but I hope it is not inescapable.

It's interesting that you suggest that humanity can only improve under one culture

Improvement has occurred with a multiplicity of cultures/nations and will continue to do so. However, so long as the private benefit of one nation or group remains "in play" trade protections and the like will exist even if the whole of humanity is thereby lessened. My comments are intended to be read in the context of your earlier comment:

And most countries protect their agricultural buisness- like many other parts of our economy, we MUST protect them.
Why? National security.
If a nation must rely on other nations to feed it's peoples, it is in a precarious position at best. It creates a situation whereby we must always produce something of value to our trading partner- food is one of those basic neccessities.

clark

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"Genuine morality can only arise from the voluntary forebearance of the powerful" - -  Everything else is balance of power and game theory.

At times this seems self evident to me and at times it seems to be utter nonsense. I daresay, IMHO, that America is the nation most likely to follow this dictum, if compared with all nations existing throughout all recorded history, even if the odds of it so doing remain low.

Ah, the arrogance. I read a recent article (editorial) regarding a perspective on American arrogance.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp....ews

Why is it neccessarily America that will follow this path Bill? And I daresay that there may be a few other countries that exsist today that would do a better job.

tahanson43206

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For SpaceNut .... the article at the link below is about the (to me remarkable) adaptation of people of Norway to the absence of the Sun during winter.

An American psychologist went to Norway to pursue her research into the problem experienced by some humans, of depression due to onset of winter.

To overly summarize her findings, it appears that people living further and further North have developed (?evolved?) a positive attitude that allows them to not only cope, but to thrive as the light fades.  The positive attitude is measurably greater the further North the psychologist visited.

A person moving to Mars will start at a significantly reduced level of Solar lighting to start with.

It seems to me that persons adapted to the absence of Solar illumination for extended periods of time might do well if given a chance to try Mars.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/drea … ket-newtab

Or, another way of looking at this study is that humans may naturally evolve a positive attitude toward life on Mars as a natural coping mechanism.

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SpaceNut

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Just need to fix the shifting problem...

Mars_B4_Moon

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How researchers in a simulated moon habitat survived extreme isolation
https://www.popsci.com/science/moon-hab … isolation/

Arctic simulation of moon-like habitat shows well-being sessions can improve mental health in extreme isolation
https://phys.org/news/2022-04-arctic-si … being.html

Mars_B4_Moon

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New study reveals the effect of extended space flight on astronauts' brains

https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/New_ … s_999.html

kbd512

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I don't think happiness / unhappiness rates has anything to do with where you live, or that you somehow "adapted" to be happy in dimmer lighting, even though that is certainly possible.  There's probably quite a bit more to it than that.  It could be the case that everyone who was not well-adapted to such conditions killed themselves, and that's why the remaining people seemed "happy", or maybe they do a better job of hiding angst and depression, hard to say for sure.

World Population Review - Suicide Rate by Country

From the article (Suicides by Country):

Top 10 Highest Suicide Rates:
1. Lesotho - 72.4
2. Guyana - 40.3
3. Eswatini - 29.4
4. South Korea - 28.6
5. Kiribati - 28.3
6. Federated States of Micronesia - 28.2
7. Lithuania - 26.1
8. Suriname - 25.4
9. Russia - 25.1
10. South Africa - 23.5

Bottom 10 Lowest Suicide Rates:
1. Antigua and Barbuda - 0.4
2. Barbados - 0.6
3. Grenada - 0.7
4. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - 1.0
5. Sao Tome and Principe - 1.5
6. Jordan - 1.6
7. Syria - 2.0
8. Venezuela - 2.1
9. Honduras - 2.1
10. Philippines - 2.2

Going to a single country and proclaiming that the people living there have "the happy pill" because they've adapted to life in low lighting conditions is probably not a good correlation to make, especially when the Russians are offing themselves in such numbers, despite living in the same latitudes for the same period of time.

Suicide in Sweden

In 2019, Sweden had 14.7 suicides per 100,000 people. Historically, Sweden has had a high suicide rate, with the most suicides in the developed world during the 1960s. That may have been due, at least in part, to cultural attitudes regarding suicide and long, dark winters, particularly in the northern regions. The government responded to the crisis with social welfare and mental health services, and the numbers have dropped dramatically. Today, Scandinavian countries – Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland – have very high happiness rates and relatively low suicide rates. However, the dark winters – 20 hours of darkness or more in each day in some areas – causes seasonal affective disorder (SAD), a form of depression, which has been known to correlate with higher rates of suicide.

"SAD" is a form of depression.  I don't care who you are, that's hilarious.

Mars_B4_Moon

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Pace of work put strain on private astronaut mission to ISS
https://spacenews.com/pace-of-work-put- … on-to-iss/
The private astronauts who spent two weeks on the International Space Station in April said they tried to pack too much into their schedules while on the station, putting a strain on both themselves and the professional astronauts there.

At a May 13 news conference, the four people who flew on Axiom Space’s Ax-1 mission to the station said that while they had a good trip to the station, they overestimated how much work they could get done after their arrival at the ISS April 9 for what was originally scheduled to be an eight-day stay.

“Our timeline was very aggressive, especially early in the mission,” said Michael López-Alegría, the former NASA astronaut and current Axiom employee who commanded Ax-1. “The pace was frenetic in the beginning.”

“With the value of hindsight, we were way too aggressive on our schedule, in particular the first couple days,” said Larry Connor, one of the three customers who accompanied López-Alegría on Ax-1. He gave an example of one experiment that was scheduled to take two and a half hours to complete based on preflight training but ended up taking five hours.

Mars_B4_Moon

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Will the Clerk of Mars go on Strike!?

Board of uber Selectman.... aka Sounds more like village idiots blocked her vacation

President of Mars and Martian Mayors Should’ve approved the Clerk vacation?

'Entire Maine town forced to shut after its only clerk quits over denied vacation'
https://www.breezyscroll.com/world/enti … -vacation/

How much you spend? 10,200 a little over 10 G's to $18000
other studies say estimated living cost for the USA is around $10000 to $18000 per year, which averages around $1000 to $1500 per month.

Before the recent fuel price hikes...

$13,000 per year and you can't take a vacation.
https://bangordailynews.com/2022/05/17/ … 6hjn1me0n/

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Mars_B4_Moon

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Americans who work alongside robots more likely to suffer negative mental health effects: study

https://thehill.com/changing-america/su … cts-study/

Mars_B4_Moon

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Psychologists Find That a 3-Minute Online Art Viewing Can Significantly Improve Your Well-Being
https://scitechdaily.com/psychologists- … ell-being/

Mindfulness Art Therapy Can Reduce Depression and Anxiety
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog … nd-anxiety
New research suggests doing art mindfully can reduce stress.

A new study published in The Journal of Korean Medical Science shows promising results that mindful art therapy can reduce depression and anxiety in people with heart disease. The study of 44 participants with coronary art disease found that practicing mindfulness through art over 12 weeks reduced levels of depression, stress, and anger. High levels of depression and anxiety can take a toll not just psychologically but physically as well.

Chinese astronaut Wang Yaping celebrates Lantern Festival with traditional music from space (video)
https://www.space.com/chinese-astronaut … henzhou-13
Astronaut Wang Yaping played a traditional guzheng to mark the Lunar New Year

Chris Hadfield On Going Viral In Space
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/sto … =206555369

Mars_B4_Moon

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Legalizing recreational cannabis in the U.S. has increased frequency of use by 20%
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-release … 7nU.reddit

Buzz Aldrin health: 'Recovery was not easy' Astronaut, 92, on his past health challenges. This included alcoholism, depression and two divorces.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/he … -treatment

Mars_B4_Moon

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'What I Do In Antarctica'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEvH-Ve7n8I

The long winter of Mars might be like the South Pole? the winter-over syndrome is a condition that occurs in individuals who "winter-over" throughout the Antarctic (or Arctic) winter, which can last seven to eight months. It has been observed in inhabitants of research stations in Antarctica, as well as in polar bases such as Thule, Alert and Eureka. It consists of a variety of behavioral and medical disturbances, including irritability, depression, insomnia, absentmindedness, aggressive behavior, and irritable bowel syndrome.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120623024 … he_Ice.pdf

-85.5 C

'I live in the South Pole - here's what life is really like in one of the coldest places in the world where temperatures can reach -122°F'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/arti … ature.html

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