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#1 2004-10-25 13:50:49

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I want to start a more open telescope topic with regards top all those currently in the design or build phase which over the last months has exploded from just maybe one or two to a sum closing in on a dozen.

Today I find to my amazement that the chinese are planning on as well.

Though I am sure that it is no Hubble it sure will be interesting non the least when they can view there own photos from space of the stars.

China aims to launch largest space solar telescope in 2008

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#2 2004-10-26 05:30:35

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Though article title say that they are stepping into the sushine it is about the announced its pending purchase of Coronado Technology Group in Arizona, the world's leading manufacturer of specialized hydrogen-alpha filters and telescopes for viewing the Sun.

Meade Steps into the Sunshine

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#3 2004-12-22 06:16:43

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New Solar Telescope Would Focus on Sunspots, Storms

Known as the Advanced Technology Solar Telescope (ATST) it
would be the world's largest optical solar telescope.

The project remains in the proposal stage. Scientists must decide where to place the telescope and secure funding to construct and operate it. Backers hope to build the telescope in Haleakala, Hawaii.

The telescope could be operational by 2010, according to the project team, provided international scientific funding agencies approve the final site selection and required construction funds.

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#4 2004-12-23 06:07:21

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World's most powerful infrared camera opens its eyes on the heavens

Well if this is true then we can shut down another space telescope if I follow the hubble deorbit discusions correctly in some eyes but not IMO. I wonder when the first real astronomical discoveries will be announce from its use as does the hubble and spitz have regularly.

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#5 2004-12-23 06:15:12

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Worlds]http://outreach.jach.hawaii.edu/pressroom/2004-wfcam/]World's most powerful infrared camera opens its eyes on the heavens

Another UK success tongue

Do terrestrial infrared cameras suffer from atmospheric problems? I know being placed so high up that it should minimize any problems but I can remember some problem with infrared imaging and the atmosphere - just can't remember where or when I read it!

Looks a good scope though.

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#6 2005-01-05 08:07:32

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Libya set to build largest telescope in North Africa

Libya has ordered a 13-million-dollar telescope from France. Built by Sagem, a French electronics group, the telescope will be two metres (6.5 feet) diameter and remote-controlled.

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#7 2005-01-11 06:00:51

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Posted in another thread by Euler, Thanks :
China hopes to build world-class observatory in Tibet It would appear that it is a multi national effort to build am infrared telescope in the 10M and upward size once the location is chosen.

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#8 2005-01-29 11:24:20

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http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish … 5]Proposed lunar telescope

*Long article, and sorry -- am pressed for time, can't make a lot of comments.  Brain child of Dr. Roger Angel, leads a team of scientists from Canada and US.  Deep-Field Infrared Observatory with Liquid Mirror Telescope.  Proposed lunar site:  A polar crater. 

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#9 2005-02-01 06:37:11

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UW introduces world’s largest telescope Prime Focus Imaging Spectrograph (PFIS), capable of viewing distant galaxies and stars.

Beginning next month, the spectrograph will serve as the uppermost component to the biggest telescope in the southern hemisphere, named the Southern African Large Telescope (SALT).

“SALT will be used as a direct detector of history — as a time machine,” Nordsieck said. “With a very large telescope, you can look at great big objects at the very beginning of the history of the universe.”

According to the SALT website, the telescope will be capable of gathering light the size of a candle flame on the moon.

What light gathering power. big_smile

SALT is part of a worldwide collaboration of a dozen academic and government establishments including New Zealand, Poland, Germany, Africa and the United States. These groups work for the advancement of astronomy by studying the southern heavens.

Looks like international cooperation is not dead but is going strong.

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#10 2005-02-02 21:25:33

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Hard X-Ray telescope up for final NASA review; project will be led by Caltech's Fiona Harrison

Nuclear Spectroscopic Telescope Array--or NuSTAR

If all goes well with a technical study approved by NASA for this year, an innovative telescope should be orbiting Earth by the end of the decade and taking the first focused high-energy X-ray pictures of matter falling into black holes and shooting out of exploding stars. Not only will the telescope be 1,000 times more capable of finding new black holes than anything previously launched into space, but it will also give us an unprecedented look at the origins of the heavy elements we're all made of.

April high-altitude balloon flight in New Mexico should help to demonstrate whether the advanced sensors invented and built at Caltech are ready for space.

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#11 2005-02-02 21:28:19

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The birth of galaxies and stars Cardiff experts' key role in space telescope mission

Experts at Cardiff University, UK, are designing and building highly sophisticated equipment, which will travel deep into space to enable scientists to look back in time to observe the formation of galaxies and stars.
A team in the School of Physics and Astronomy is heading an international consortium, led by Cardiff's Professor Matt Griffin, to produce SPIRE. This is a three-colour camera and spectrometer, which will be launched aboard the European Space Agency's Herschel Space Observatory in 2007.

It will detect radiation at very long wavelengths, revealing distant galaxies - up to 10 billion light years away - which are invisible to other telescopes. This is equivalent to looking up to 10 billion years into the past, and hence SPIRE will be able to view distant galaxies in their early stages of formation. SPIRE will also be able to look at closer clouds of dust and gas in our own galaxy, and view the formation of stars in "stellar nurseries".

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#12 2005-03-07 10:15:36

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Without hubble, picture is fuzzy If repair missions end, the loss will be great, astronomers warn

The James Webb Space Telescope was to be launched in 2007, overlapping with the Hubble, but the date has slipped to 2011 or later. The Webb will see deeper into time and space than the Hubble can, but, like Spitzer, will see only infrared.

But cosmologists need to find lots more Ia supernovas. The Webb telescope and the planned Supernova Acceleration Probe (SNAP) could one day take up the pursuit. But the Webb won't launch before 2011, and SNAP is just a proposal.

Nasa is planning for a launch in late 2007 of the Kepler space telescope, which would be dedicated to finding similar planets orbiting sun-like stars. But Kepler won't have the Hubble's ability to probe the planets' atmospheres.

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#13 2005-03-09 08:43:40

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Super Telescopes in Space and on the Moon

Greaty opening lines:

NASA’s sweeping Moon, Mars and beyond agenda demands a sustained ability to build, deploy, rescue, repair, support and upgrade large and complex systems. In mounting this exploration assault, both human and robot can work together to anchor super-optical systems far from Earth, as well as on that nearby celestial mountaintop - the Moon.

Facts on JWST and comparison to Hubble size:

Already looming large in the astronomical world is the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST). It is to be launched in 2011. This powerful observatory features a 20-foot (6.5-meter) mirror made up of 18 hexagonal-shaped segments. The large-sized mirror could fit seven Hubble Space Telescope mirrors within its surface area.

JWST will be an infrared observatory, deployed for duty with a large sunshade attached at the second Lagrange point (L2) of the Sun-Earth system, a semi-stable point in the gravitational potential around the Sun and Earth. It will be positioned some 1 million miles (1.5 million kilometers) from the Earth and enable astronomers to observe the formation of the first stars and galaxies in the universe billions of years ago.

Other telescopes in the works with the International Lunar Observatory and:

One of the very large telescopes proposed for the 2015-2020 time period is the Single Aperture Far-infrared (SAFIR) telescope.

And even some discusion of Liquid mirrors.

Deep Field Infrared Observatory located near the Moon’s south pole would use liquid primary mirrors,

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#14 2005-03-09 19:23:27

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The lunar poles have an abundance of craters. Once a spinning surface is established, by humans or bots, there is little to do but stare.

Do you think that erecting telescopes on the Moon would be exciting for kids, probably your kids?

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#15 2005-03-18 06:01:11

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Well it appears that China is spreading its wings now into Telescopes and not just manned space flight.
Large telescopes on agenda

A top astronomer says China is to install several large telescopes to help unlock the secrets of the universe.

Seven astronomical projects to explore space mysteries

News from the National Astronomical Observatories (NAOC) says that in order to promote the development of China's astronomical high technologies the NAOC - dubbed "astronomical carrier", is going all out to push ahead seven astronomical projects. Experts said the construction of them would give full play to the role of astronomy in exploring scientific forefront and developing high technologies, and make important contribution to the demand of national key strategy.

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#16 2005-03-25 12:19:37

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Petaluma company aims high with deep-space telescope With sales down 30 percent, Donal Machine says project can help firm recover from high-tech bubble burst

Donal Machine Inc. this month began constructing nine steel supports for a new ultra-sensitive radio telescope. The array of 15 networked antennas will soon probe new galaxies, black holes and cosmic radiation left over from the Big Bang.

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#17 2005-04-19 10:44:36

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Giant mirror will boldly go to explore the galaxies

Polishing the 3.5-metre Herschel space mirror took more than six months of hard work a behemoth of 3.5 metres in diameter. In February 2007, the mirror and the telescope to which it belongs will be launched on the back of an Ariane-5 rocket as part of the Herschel Space Observatory, with a mission to study the formation of galaxies and their evolution.

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#18 2005-07-28 09:31:44

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http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish … 2005]Space telescope could unfold in space

*Lengthy, a bit complex article.  Interesting. 

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#19 2005-08-06 20:14:42

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NASA plans 6 new scopes

A $50 million project on Mauna Kea would add telescopes to aid the
existing Keck ones.


NASA has decided to build up to six relatively small outrigger telescopes around the two giant Keck telescopes on Mauna Kea, a plan that has been opposed by some environmentalists and native Hawaiian activists.
Office of Hawaiian Affairs had sued NASA complaining that the initial environmental study for the outriggers was not well done.

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#20 2005-08-17 10:21:06

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Collaspeable telescopes?
Universe in a Box: Collapsable Telescope Offers Multiple Uses

Borrowing from amateur astronomers, German researchers have developed a folding space telescope that collapses into the size of a large suitcase during launch but which unpacks to its full length once in orbit.

By collapsing that space, the team was able to reduce the DST’s volume during launch by 70% and its weight by 50% compared to other space telescopes with similar apertures

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#21 2005-08-17 14:02:06

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Collaspeable telescopes?
Universe in a Box: Collapsable Telescope Offers Multiple Uses

Borrowing from amateur astronomers, German researchers have developed a folding space telescope that collapses into the size of a large suitcase during launch but which unpacks to its full length once in orbit.

By collapsing that space, the team was able to reduce the DST’s volume during launch by 70% and its weight by 50% compared to other space telescopes with similar apertures

That is a fascinating article SpaceNut. I can only imagine the impact on astronomy from being able to build and launch space telescopes cheaper. I also wonder what it will mean in terms of the needed bandwidth if we start sending out telescopes to different worlds like probes. Perhaps the MTO will be brought back sooner then expected.


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#22 2005-10-31 06:42:45

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First Giant Magellan Telescope Mirror Casting is Perfect

The mirror is the first of seven 8.4-meter (27-foot) mirrors that the Mirror Lab is making for the Giant Magellan Telescope. The GMT is the world's first extremely large ground-based telescope to start construction.

The colossal telescope will feature six giant off-axis mirrors around a seventh on-axis mirror. This arrangement will give it a 22-meter (72-foot) aperture, or 4.5 times the collecting area of any current optical telescope. It will have the resolving power of a 24.5-meter (80-foot) diameter telescope, or 10 times the resolution of the Hubble Space Telescope. The GMT is slated for completion in 2016 at a site in northern Chile.

Wow...

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#23 2005-11-04 09:57:59

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Salt will dissolve superstition

20051104095042Salt.jpg

Well actually the Southern African Large Telescope (Salt) is in planning for next week's official opening.

Its light gathering surface (or primary mirror) consists of 91 hexagonal mirrors in an array 11m across, and works through an intricate optical alignment system as a single giant precision mirror.

Article goes on to reminice about the voyagers 1 and 2...

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#24 2005-11-21 21:31:54

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Couple of telescopes being either built or in design phase.

Monster Scope to Dwarf Rivals

Astronomers are preparing to build the world's largest telescope that could be 100 times more powerful than the Hubble and will peer back to the very beginning of the universe.

The new TMT (Thirty-Meter Telescope) will be the first of a new generation of massive Earth-based telescopes that will far eclipse today's largest observatories.


An article about the man behind the making of the mirrors for Giant Magellan Telescope (GMT), which would become the world's largest, with an effective diameter of 21.4 meters.

[url=http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=30&articleID=000591FC-5C92-137A-9C9283414B7FFE9F]Breaking the Mold 
As the glass cools on his latest giant mirror, Roger Angel keeps pushing telescope design. His next one might even find Earth-like planets around other stars  [/url]

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#25 2006-01-05 23:26:40

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'first steps are not for cheap, think about it...
did China build a great Wall in a day ?' ( Y L R newmars forum member )

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