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#1 2004-03-18 01:16:35

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

On March 2, the ESA launched [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_space_probe]Rosetta space probe.  Its itinerary looks very impressive with 3 Earth fly-bys, 2 asteroid fly-bys, a Mars fly-by, and ending with a landing on a comet.

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#2 2004-03-18 09:26:30

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

I had been reading about this one before. It uses a new drive system and has non-reflective silicon cells,  it also has harpoons with internal ice screws.They have used a plan to use new types of propellant in these mission. I wonder if such robotics or these types of probe could be used for a mars mission, maybe also to explore phobos?


[http://www.esa.int/export/images/2_36_hzrose_L.jpg]http://www.esa.int/export/images/2_36_hzrose_L.jpg


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#3 2004-03-18 14:02:07

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

I think that this sort of tech is most useful in exploring the moons of Mars.  It's a way to land on an object with minimal gravity where the probe is likely to float away unless anchored down.
I'd love to see a probed investigate the moons of Mars directly.  There's all sorts of potential uses for the moons that would be made possible by a better understanding of them.

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#4 2004-07-04 04:57:35

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander


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#5 2004-08-03 14:56:01

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.htm … 4738]Earth & Moon

*Pic obtained via Rosetta's NAVCAM, which was activated for the first time on July 25.  Distance:  70 million km.

Cameras double as imaging cameras and star sensors. 

A very long journey ahead...

--Cindy  smile


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#6 2004-08-19 12:31:55

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=14850]Hey.  THIS is the kind of "E-Z Bake Oven" I wanted as a little girl.  :-\

*Is a Ptolemy instrument, "Evolved Gas Analyzer."  Will also "smell" the comet for different substances.  Weighs 4.5 kg and is about the size of a shoe box.

"One of the ingenious instruments on board Rosetta is designed to 'smell' the comet for different substances, analysing samples that have been 'cooked' in a set of miniature ovens."

I love this stuff.  cool 

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

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#7 2005-01-19 13:02:19

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

At the end of the last New Norcia pass in the reporting period (DOY 324) Rosetta was at 49.8 million kilometres from the Earth. The one-way signal travel time was 2 minutes 46 seconds.

http://www.esa.int/]http://www.esa.int/

small Trajectory Correction Manoeuver of about 9 cms-1  on 25 November

Rosetta continues to fly in cruise mode which it entered 17 October. The AOCS gyro-less estimator was activated on 4 November and has been running since, outside the control loop for validation. This activity required an AOCMS patch in RAM to prevent incorrect use of gyro-less estimator output by the FDIR when the gyro-less and gyro-stellar estimators are ON in parallel. So far, the performance of the gyro-less estimator is good.

http://www.esa.int/export/esaMI/Rosetta … I/Rosetta/

flash animation of its journey

seems to be very close to Mars in Dec 2006 and Jan 2007


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#8 2005-01-21 13:05:37

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

-YLR - Thanks for the link to the flash animation, at the end it says that in December 2015 Rosetta's journey will come to an end. However as it'll still be attached to the comet it's journey will be ongoing - we'll just miss it all! Amazing how many fly-bys its going to have though.

Graeme


There was a young lady named Bright.
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day
in a relative way
And returned on the previous night.
--Arthur Buller--

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#9 2005-02-16 09:50:09

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

-YLR - Thanks for the link to the flash animation, at the end it says that in December 2015 Rosetta's journey will come to an end. However as it'll still be attached to the comet it's journey will be ongoing - we'll just miss it all! Amazing how many fly-bys its going to have though.

Graeme

Another animation of Rosetta's journey -  12 years out there


three fly-bys of Earth and one fly-by of Mars  smile
you can fast forward, zoom in or Focus on a Planet in this animation
  cool

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Rosetta/SEM … GQD_0.html

Rosetta spacecraft will fly-by two asteroids on its way to comet 67P. The asteroids, 2867 Steins and 21 Lutetia


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#10 2005-02-24 08:20:14

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

ESA's comet chaser to fly by Earth

ESA's comet-chaser Rosetta will make a fly-by of planet Earth on 4 March 2005, and sky watchers should be able to see it with telescopes or binoculars if the sky is clear!

'Rosetta Up Close' photo contest

Sky watchers everywhere are invited to submit their photos of Rosetta passing Earth to ESA's 'Rosetta Up Close' photo contest. Details of the contest, rules, prizes and submission procedures will be posted shortly on the ESA web site.

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#11 2005-03-01 10:08:48

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMMTBYEM4E_index_0.html] ESA's comet chaser to fly by Earth

ESA's comet-chaser Rosetta will make a fly-by of planet Earth on 4 March 2005, and sky watchers should be able to see it with telescopes or binoculars if the sky is clear!

'Rosetta Up Close' photo contest

Sky watchers everywhere are invited to submit their photos of Rosetta passing Earth to ESA's 'Rosetta Up Close' photo contest. Details of the contest, rules, prizes and submission procedures will be posted shortly on the ESA web site.

http://www.rssd.esa.int/index.php?proje … by]Rosetta flyby Finder Charts

*This is being hosted at spaceweather.com.  Will be useful to the folks who can track Rosetta during the flyby.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

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#12 2005-03-02 06:29:09

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2005/0 … if]Rosetta!

*...taken with a 12-inch telescope, February 28.  Photo credit goes to Thomas Hugentobler of Bolligen, Switzerland.

You can see it moving.  smile

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#13 2005-03-04 14:03:01

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

*Spaceweather.com is currently hosting the following:

ROSETTA UPDATE: Astronomer Frank Reddy has prepared an eye-popping simulation of the Rosetta flyby. See it: 17 MB (mpeg format) or 8 MB (RealPlayer format).

Unfortunately it's posted at the web site as that paragraph only; cannot link to it. 

Spaceweather updates frequently and archives its web page daily.  They'll probably host the links to the simulations for a few more days, but of course eventually it'll be completely archived.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#14 2005-03-05 09:48:26

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

*Images of the Rosetta flyby are rolling in and spaceweather.com is hosting them.

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2005/0 … jpg]Series of images from CAST Observatory in Italy

I was hoping that'd be an animation.  Maybe something's wrong with my computer. 

-*-

String]http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2005/05mar04/Masi1.jpg]"String of Pearls"

Credit goes to Gianluca Masi, Franco Mallia, and Roger Wilcox using the SoTIE telescope at Las Campanas, Chile.

-*-

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2005/0 … pg]Italian astronomers are no slackers.  wink

Credit goes to V. Terno and W. Borghini of Casasco, Italy.

:up:

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#15 2005-03-08 09:30:19

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

*Images of the Rosetta flyby are rolling in and spaceweather.com is hosting them.

Good on those people from Italy for doing such good images


Here's 2 from the craft looking back at us
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/ros … ...7_H.jpg
http://www.esa.int/images/rosetta_CAM1_ … 47_2_L.jpg

I almost couldn't identify our own Planet because there is so much cloud swirling around, but you can just see the shapes of Antarctica and South America sticking out through the clouds on Earth
cool


Info on the comet
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Rosetta/ESA … 08D_0.html
67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko is a large dirty snowball that orbits the Sun once every 6.6 years. Discovered by K. Churyumov, University of Kiev, Ukraine
& S. Gerasimenko, Institute of Astrophysics, Dushanbe, Tajikistan

During this time, it commutes between the orbits of Jupiter and the Earth. However, little is known about it, despite its regular visits to the inner Solar System.


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#16 2005-03-10 06:55:12

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/imag … ]Beautiful photo!

*Moon and Earth.  Taken during March 4 flyby of course.  Photo taken just 3 minutes prior to its closest approach to Earth.  Over Pacific Ocean west of Mexico.

Stunning.  smile 

Will fly past Mars in February 2007, and two more Earth flybys:  November 2007 and November 2009.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#17 2005-03-10 18:18:20

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Stunning.  smile 

Will fly past Mars in February 2007, and two more Earth flybys:  November 2007 and November 2009.

--Cindy

there's some info here also

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMUHOD3M5E_Ex … ing_0.html
views include view includes Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, East coast USA , Norfolk VA and Appalachian Mountains

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMV5LD3M5E_Ex … ing_0.html
series of black and white images - view of Earth.


big_smile

images were recorded by Navigation Camera 1 between 12:47 and 13:08 UTC, 5 March, with an integration time of between 0.01 and 0.05 seconds.


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#18 2005-04-04 07:36:23

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

*YL Rocket, those are fabulous photos.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/comet-05i.html]Rosetta back in cruise mode

Last report has it 6.73 million km from us.  They're reporting a problem:

The boresight calibration of VIRTIS-H (VIRTIS - High resolution optical subsystem) on 16 March, for the third time did not succeed in determining the instrument boresight.

The PI Team is investigating the problem.

Hmmmmm.  Otherwise Rosetta in excellent shape.

Interesting about the "Near Sun Hibernation Mode." 

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

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#19 2005-05-03 13:38:23

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http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish … 2005]Earth through Rosetta's eyes

*Good science info in the article.  Data obtained from March flyby.  Am pressed for time and can't currently comment further.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

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#20 2005-05-04 11:59:50

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The flyby photo is rather rainbow in its shading.

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#21 2005-05-12 06:26:34

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

Rosetta Status Report - April 2005
All seems well at this time.

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#22 2005-07-03 18:58:35

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

Report for period 10 to 24 June 2005

The Rosetta spacecraft is in active cruise mode and preparation activities for the observation of the NASA Deep Impact probe's encounter with comet Tempel-1 continued over the reporting period.

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=37624


http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMJUZS1VED_in … dex_0.html
On its journey to a comet, Rosetta will use fly-bys of the Earth and Mars to help it to get to its final destination.

Rosetta gets first glimpse of Deep Impact target
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMKAT5DIAE_in … dex_0.html


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#23 2005-07-18 16:51:38

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

Status report
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=37699

18 Jul 2005 16:09
Report for period 24 June to 15 July 2005

The spacecraft is in active cruise mode. The reporting period covers the first active science phase of the mission, dedicated to the observation of the NASA Deep Impact probe's encounter with comet Tempel-1.

The spacecraft was slewed to point its remote sensing payload instruments towards comet Tempel-1 on 28 June. The comet was constantly tracked until 14 July, following a complex profile designed to satisfy the observation requirements of the four active instruments, ALICE, MIRO, OSIRIS and VIRTIS. Three of the remote sensing instruments were active continuously from 29 June to 14 July. VIRTIS was operated only for a few hours around the predicted time of encounter of Deep Impact with the comet, on 4 July. Daily passes were taken with the New Norcia station throughout the reporting period, to downlink the scientific data collected during the observations. An average of 60 Mbytes of data were produced and downlinked every day.

The observation campaign was very successful. All instruments operated very well and their science data were collected as planned and are undergoing the first analyses. A few problems occurred with the commanding timing of OSIRIS and with the MIRO instrument but could be recovered in both cases within about 24 hours, with minor impact on the overall instrument operations and data return. The exercise was the first scientific planning and operations scenario over large scale and an extended period of time for the Rosetta mission. It provided an important experience and a wealth of lessons learned which will be very useful to design the spacecraft operations around Rosetta's target comet 67 P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

Some pictures of the Rosseta craft
http://www.dlr.de/os/forschung/projekte … ettavirtis
http://www.uk2planets.org.uk/images/gal … ...esa.jpg
http://jmm45.free.fr/sondes/rosetta/ros … osetta.htm
http://www.cnes.fr/html/_107_443_445_.p … 3_445_.php
http://solarsystem.dlr.de/PP/OS/HTML/dt … alerie.htm


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#24 2005-07-19 07:50:27

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

All instruments operated very well and their science data were collected as planned and are undergoing the first analyses. A few problems occurred with the commanding timing of OSIRIS and with the MIRO instrument but could be recovered in both cases within about 24 hours, with minor impact on the overall instrument operations and data return. The exercise was the first scientific planning and operations scenario over large scale and an extended period of time for the Rosetta mission. It provided an important experience and a wealth of lessons learned which will be very useful to design the spacecraft operations around Rosetta's target comet 67 P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

Some pictures of the Rosseta craft
http://www.uk2planets.org.uk/images/gal … n_esa.jpg]
*That's good to know.  I especially liked the photo I kept in the quote box.

Must be fabulous to be part of the actual construction of a probe, though I'd rather be part of the monitoring team once it's launched and underway.   :;):

--Cindy


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#25 2005-09-29 21:14:15

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Re: Rosetta - ESA comet orbiter and lander

Solar Flare Interacts with Rosetta
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object … ctid=37921
Report


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