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#1 2004-12-29 11:59:35

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

I have been mucking about with numbers for a while and would like to know if a Pythagorean triangle with the values of 1^2+2^2=3^2 is known?

The solution I have found is in Fermats Last Theroem x^n+y^n=z^n. It only works in whole numbers when n<3.

I have scanned and the smallest appears to be a 3, 4 & 5 triangle.

Does anybody know anything about an even smaller 1, 2 & 3 Pythagorean triangle?


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#2 2004-12-29 13:33:53

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

The solution I have found is in Fermats Last Theroem x^n+y^n=z^n. It only works in whole numbers when n<3.

FLT Proves the only whole number solutions to x^n+y^n=z^n is when n<3. The only equations that work in whole numbers are the 5 below.

x^-2+y^-2=z^-2
x^-1+y^-1=z^-1
x^0+y^0=z^0
x^1+y^1=z^1
x^2+y^2=z^2



123
456
789

3^2 = 3*3 = 9 Squares.

3^1=9 Triangles.

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  234
56789


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#3 2004-12-29 14:54:05

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

x^2+y^2=z^2

As this is the case 1^2+2^2=3^2 must work.

Or did Fermat believe the 1,2,3 triangle had no square relationship, and name the equation x,y&z instead of a,b&c?

Any comments?


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#4 2004-12-29 15:29:30

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

1^2+2^2=1+4=5
3^2=9
5 does not equal 9.

You also can't have a 1,2,3 triangle at all since the 3 side is as long as both the other sides combined.

A 3,4,5 triangle is the smallest pythagorean triangle.

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#5 2004-12-30 09:38:42

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

1^2+2^2=1+4=5
3^2=9
5 does not equal 9.

You also can't have a 1,2,3 triangle at all since the 3 side is as long as both the other sides combined.

A 3,4,5 triangle is the smallest pythagorean triangle.

Yes I know.

But when it is treated abstractly I can see a smaller 1,2&3 solution.


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#6 2004-12-30 09:47:37

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

If you divide the sides of the 345 triangle by the the same number for all the sides it will become a smaller triangle. There are infinate combinations!

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#7 2004-12-30 13:33:04

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

5 does not equal 9.

I have concluded in my studies that in the equation x^n+y^n=z^n, n has only 5 possible variants in whole numbers. I have organized them into tetrahedral shapes.


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#8 2004-12-30 14:00:43

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

If you divide the sides of the 345 triangle by the the same number for all the sides it will become a smaller triangle.

What happens when a line is so small that it's the size of the smallest atom and cannot be divided anymore without changing the measurement to a different sub-atomic scale, which will in turn have a smallest scale of line.

The 3^2 in the smallest 3,4,5 Pythagorean triangle is too big. I think at this scale Pythagorus' theroem would not work, unless a 1,2&3 triangle exists. A series of hypotenuses would become more apparent.

With the switch of thickness to FLT of x^n+y^n=z^n it has an altered concept.

The double equilateral triangle unfolds to a square.


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#9 2004-12-30 14:18:10

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

On the scale of things an atom is huge?

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#10 2004-12-30 15:06:50

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Re: Pythagorean Triangle - Does a smaller one exist?

On the scale of things an atom is huge?

The Hydogen atom is a unit that is small relative to us, but sets our scale of life.

Just as the speed of light sets the scale of vision.

In the experiments and math I am involved in, The ^n function is seen as an increase in thickness.

The function ^n in FLT of x^n+y^n = z^n there is a triangular solution ^1 as well as a square solution.

I understand the 3.4.5. Pythagorean Triangle square hypothosis differently. This whole number right angled triangle tells me that an equilateral triangle of 3 lines can open to reveal 4 triangles inside, closes again making 5 triangles. When ^2, double triangles make 5 triangles two thick (10) or 5 squares.

I understand the 1.2.3 triangle to represent a stellated tetrahedron, oscillating to a cube.


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