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#1 2004-12-04 07:44:39

Palomar
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Re: Fastest Possible Rotation?

*Hi-ho, me again.

I read in Scientific American:  The Secret Lives of Stars, Special Edition magazine that the Crab Nebula's pulsar rotates an astonishing once every 33 milliseconds.

I did double-check that statement.

yikes

So what is theoretically the fastest something can rotate without flying apart?  Probably depends on what it's made of, but just thought I'd ask "in general" (and in reference to celestial bodies).

Any answers or speculations would be appreciated, and thanks in advance.

--Cindy


We all know [i]those[/i] Venusians: Doing their hair in shock waves, smoking electrical coronas, wearing Van Allen belts and resting their tiny elbows on a Geiger counter...

--John Sladek (The New Apocrypha)

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#2 2004-12-04 08:45:43

GraemeSkinner
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Re: Fastest Possible Rotation?

http://sphericalcube.com/thesis/thesisse2.php]LINK

The above may be a bit heavy on maths, sorry, but basically it depends on the stars radius as to how fast it can rotate before flying apart (it also depends on its gravity).

Graeme


There was a young lady named Bright.
Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day
in a relative way
And returned on the previous night.
--Arthur Buller--

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#3 2004-12-04 12:10:54

flashgordon
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Re: Fastest Possible Rotation?

i don't know about newtron stars, but for black holes, if they rotate above a certain speed limit, they give off gravitational waves.

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#4 2004-12-04 13:59:21

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Re: Fastest Possible Rotation?

Let's see. According to the artificial gravity equation given in The Case for Mars, F= (0.0011)w^2r, where F is centrifugal force in g's, w is the spin rate in rpm, and r is the radius of the object in meters, this pulsar would create a centrifugal force of 14,256,000 (!) g's at its equator assuming that its 8 kilometers in diameter. That's big yikes. However, IIRC many neutron stars can produce over a billion times Earth's gravity, so that force would barely even cause the star to bulge even at its equator.

It would be very, very difficult to break apart a neutron star. A neutron star is essentially what happens when gravity becomes so ridiculously huge in an area that the very atomic structure of the matter involved is ripped apart and the whole thing acts like one giant atom, if my understanding of neutron stars is correct. The atoms of such a star are so tightly bound to each other that the only thing that can tear apart a neutron star (a rule of thumb in the universe is that there's always something that can rip, shread, or blow anything up) is another one, during a neutron star merger. That's such a ludicrously violent event that these mergers give off gamma ray bursts that can outshine the entire rest of the universe for a second or two. Is this a cool universe or what? cool


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#5 2004-12-04 17:10:55

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Re: Fastest Possible Rotation?

while searching
http://www.google.com/search?q=Rotating … =]Rotating Hairy Black Holes

I found some
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Nu … tml]movies.

http://home.earthlink.net/~djmp/Wheeler.html]Spacetime tells matter how to move. Matter tells spacetime how to curve

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