Bush next four years agenda - Can he achieve his goals

SpaceNut · 2004-11-05 06:45:50

I was vagely listening to the morning news and heard that President Bush had already made speeches as to the goals of the next four years of office.
Quick search yielded 158436 on msn ( http://search.msn.com/results....0agenda ) for just a simple phrase check on Bush second term agenda with the anounced septermber goals on his official site ( http://www.georgewbush.com/Agenda/ ) . His goals are layed out as chapters as if writing a book but will those pages be filled with the glory of a great President or that of a failure with lasting changes to America.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm....bush_dc

Paints a picture of wanting to sketched out a second-term agenda on Wednesday that even non supporters conceded would be tough to achieve, from bringing stability to Iraq, to overhauling Social Security and to whether tax code changes or reviving legislation to promote the energy of production. To be prepare for belt tightening in the arena of Homeland Security, Education and other federal agencies.

I am sure in the days to come more will come out on his short and long term goals for the American people as well as to end the war on terror.

The shake of his cabinet officers has begun but how much will they change.

We have four long years to find out.

Can he achieve his goals?

Yang Liwei Rocket · 2004-11-05 16:57:00

cleaning up his own mess
this is new territory for a Bush leader, he has already Ambitious goals some ignoring key American issues such as rising debts, the mdei-care problems and focusing on issues like gay marraige and Stem cells, Bush has also get many Conservative Goals, GW has said "Results matter ", and he said taht he " didn't come here just to hold the office" ...Bush said he "came here to get some things done." Many were unsure of those behind Bush and I have read remarks that called Cheney warmongering . The George W. Bush who is poised impatiently to begin his new term in the White House is a far different president from the unmarked Texas governor who arrived in Washington four years ago, with majorites as the Whitehouse and Congress he will be key to reshaping government policy to conservative design...howver it remains to be seen if these are the correct choices

MarsDog · 2004-11-06 11:02:56

Suckered in by Osama, into occupying Iraq, US is on the decline; a new president might have realized that another Vietnam is in the making, and gotten out quickly.

Ban on stem cell research and "gay" marriages reminds me of authoratian religious regimes that the US wants to change in the Middle East.

Religion USA versus Religion Islam ?

SpaceNut · 2004-11-06 21:14:06

I believe so long a the US remains in a friendly standing with the three regions of Iraq and make no new enimies of the iraqi people such that all we are fighting hard liners of Sadam rebells and foriegn fighters that just simply do not want what America is doing then we will be able to finish what has been started and will be able to leave there nation in peace.

SpaceNut · 2004-11-10 13:52:59

Bush is having a little changing of the guard from his inner circle of cabinet members while, two other Cabinet officers, Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman and Interior Secretary Gale Norton, have said they would like to remain on the job, as has Michael Leavitt, who as administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency has the equivalent of Cabinet status.

Attorney General John Ashcroft and Commerce Secretary Donald Evans resigned Tuesday

What other changes can we expect before the beginning of the new year when he is officially sworn in for another term of office.

Earthfirst · 2004-11-10 14:41:51

I think that Bush will start to enforce the borders more, or maybe not?
Geting prolife judges onto the supreme crout will be a major victory for bush.
Reforming of the tax system, flat tax, national sales tax, no federal taxes. Instead force other countries to pay us money to not invade them, lots of nation did that in the past.
Also making missile defense, to protects use from china, north korea.
Bush has a big job ahead of him, will make good on his word.

SpaceNut · 2004-11-11 08:21:09

When Congress returns to Washington next Tuesday it will attempt to do what it has been unable to accomplish during the preceding months Attempts to Wrap-Up FY 2005 Budget Bills.

In theory, last week's election should make the going a little easier. With the electorate's decision to return President Bush to the White House and to increase Republican control in the House and Senate, the appropriations cycle does not have to contend with inside-the-beltway strategizing about the optimal political time to pass these bills.

~Eternal~ · 2004-11-11 19:11:07

"Can he achieve his goals"

Hopefully not :laugh:

RobertDyck · 2004-11-11 20:07:48

I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s. I remember flower power, make peace not war, political activists holding protests, calls for recycling so we don't pollute ourselves. In the 1970s I saw the beginning of "live and let die" and the "Me" generation. We seem to have fallen deeper into violence, vandalism, and theft. Recycling programs have started, but primarily to reduce the cost of operating land-fill garbage dumps. In 1983 there was the fear that January 1, 1984, would miraculously result in totalitarianism of George Orwell's book titled "1984". But he wrote that book in 1948 and just reversed the last two digits for the fictional date of his story. Government espionage on citizens didn't happen then because technology wasn't available yet, but it has slowly happened. One person from Texas told me the "Carnivore" device to tap email on the internet backbone was outlawed by the Supreme Court, but suspects it'll be brought back with a more benign name. The CIA has devices on electronic telephone exchanges to randomly tap telephone calls, convert speech to text and search the text for key words. If a key word is spoken a digital recording of the whole phone call is sent to a CIA operative. This is for everyone, not just police investigations with a warrant. "1984" is here now.

Is this what it takes to turn the political tide? I'm starting to see the barest glimmer of awakening that society isn't the way it should be. People in the US are starting to question why their military is in Iraq. Soldiers are having to decide if they will obey orders. Citizens have started to move to Canada to escape the draft. The main-stream media is strongly supporting any military action the government takes without question, and others are documenting the media's failure to criticize.

Let me leave you with a quote from the Vietnam era: "What if they held a war and no one showed up?"

SpaceNut · 2004-11-15 14:35:32

Update on the Bush resignations.

Powell, 3 others leaving Cabinet
Accelerating the shake-up of President Bush's inner circle in advance of his second term, the White House Announcement raises the total to six.

Grypd · 2004-11-15 17:48:45

On Friday primeminister Tony Blair was in Washington. One of the biggest items on Blairs agenda was to see if the stalled peace process between Israel and the Palestinians could be restarted. Apparently the meeting between Bush and Blair was not too successful.

The upshot of this was the sunday papers in the UK had that there where some whitehouse hacks calling Blair a potential future political foe. So how does this leave the UK/US relations when they are the allies in a shooting war, Well probably all smiles and handshakes until the UK can withdraw and since the war is looseing Blair a lot of votes and with a potential election next spring then it will be sooner rather than later.

SpaceNut · 2004-11-16 15:06:02

The update as well as changing of the cabinet posts on the Powell resignation and the nomination of Rice as secretary of state to replace warrior-turned-diplomat Colin Powell as part of a sweeping second-term Cabinet overhaul.

President Bush nominates Rice as secretary of state

SpaceNut · 2004-11-17 12:05:56

Another update on cabinet office filling before the new term startsd. President Bush Names Margaret Spellings to Be the Nation's Eighth Education Secretary

Some of these have been surprises while others are not.

Dayton3 · 2004-11-27 10:29:31

I think the stock market will have to rise to the 30,000 or so mark for there to be real chunk taken out of the deficit.

I hope he can accomplish his goals and achieve even more.

SpaceNut · 2004-11-30 14:30:14

Here is another resignation Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge steps down as chief in the latest of Cabinet changes whose name became synonymous with the color-code for terror alerts and tutorials about how to prepare for possible attack.

SpaceNut · 2004-12-10 08:04:50

There looks like there are some hidden military goals of space that were not clear to all in congress.
What is America's top-secret spy program? Experts think Democrats objected to satellite weapon

What is the hush-hush intelligence project that apparently costs a fortune and has angered key Democratic senators?

Senator: Mystery Spy Project Dangerous

The latest mystery in Washington espionage circles came to light in an unlikely venue: the floor of the U.S. Senate.
Tucked inside Congress' new blueprint for U.S. intelligence spending is a highly classified and expensive spy program that drew exceptional criticism from leading Democrats.

Yang Liwei Rocket · 2004-12-11 23:15:29

I think the stock market will have to rise to the 30,000 or so mark for there to be real chunk taken out of the deficit.
I hope he can accomplish his goals and achieve even more.

the dollar is in trouble

http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=795

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SpaceNut · 2004-12-14 05:26:12

Well with the recent news of Nasa's chief deciding that he has had enough and wishing to move on leaves a critical if not crucial void to fill. The vision IMO will be impacted by the changing of the guard as it were.
Getting a hold of the financial situation of Nasa is a huge under taking alone but to direct a vision on top of that may be like fighting a tidal wave. Good luck to whom ever tries to fill the shoes.

SpaceNut · 2004-12-21 12:43:10

Well the budget year for 2005 has come and passed now with a modest increase over the proceeding year. With the goals that were put forth one would expect an equal or simular amount of increase in all future years to aid or speed up the chance for success.

Expect tight budgets, president warns federal agencies with a flat budget or just barely inflation rate. Then how can we achieve the goal with that level of funding. Some corners or projects will most likely be cancelled or serverely delayed IMO. Or will cooperation with other nations be the buzz word for the next decade enroute back to the moon.

Euler · 2004-12-21 17:44:10

I think that the budget deficit will continue to grow anyway. Even if non-Defense discretionary spending only grows by 1%, that is a small portion of the total budget. If the tax cuts are extended and social security is privatized, we will continue to have record deficits despite the President's goal of cutting the deficit in half by 2008.

SpaceNut · 2005-03-14 06:22:15

Well President Bush has been very busy, filling all of his vacated cabinet positions and now the head office of Nasa has been filled as well. Much has been as well done to deter any would be rocketer and that includes alternate space providers. In the name of security we have seen a clamp down on materials that are considered for bomb making. These include even those small rockets that clubs build and even the store bought rocket engines that power model rockets. Have we gone to far in trying to provide a degree of safety from terror acts? What is next in the name of Homeland security?
Launch schedule off Web

Citing security concerns, the Air Force has yanked its unclassified launch schedule from a Web site, a move that baffles secrecy opponents and some space hobbyists alike.
The Web site, operated by the Western Range, suddenly disappeared earlier this year. Instead of upcoming missions with rocket pictures and a paragraph of information, the site says simply, "This page is temporarily unavailable."
"Although the launches aren't classified, we still must weigh operational security concerns when determining what and how much information to make available and when to make it available," Capt. Todd Fleming, Vandenberg Air Force Base's public affairs chief, said in response to written questions. "We are currently evaluating the security risks with providing such easy and early public access to launch information."
The public launch schedule has been available for more than five years, but has undergone changes in terms of what information is available. At least a handful of non-government Web sites publicize a Vandenberg launch manifest.

Yang Liwei Rocket · 2005-03-17 04:44:09

Suckered in by Osama, into occupying Iraq, US is on the decline; a new president might have realized that another Vietnam is in the making, and gotten out quickly.
Ban on stem cell research and "gay" marriages reminds me of authoratian religious regimes that the US wants to change in the Middle East.
Religion USA versus Religion Islam ?

I don't know if things are so bad, but here's more news

Bush wants
Regime change at the World Bank
There has been a cool response to President Bush's nomination of Paul Wolfowitz to be the next head of the World Bank, a key development agency.
Mr Wolfowitz, 61, currently US Deputy Defence Secretary, has a reputation as a "neo-conservative" hawk and was a key architect of the Iraq war.
News of his candidacy brought criticism from aid agencies and faint praise from several European government ministers.
Mr Bush described Mr Wolfowitz as a "compassionate, decent man".
French and German ministers were guarded in their reaction, while Sweden's foreign minister said she was sceptical about the nomination.

Aid agencies and development experts lined up to criticise the nomination.

A British-based campaign group, the World Development Movement, described the nomination as a "truly terrifying appointment".
Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize winner and a former World Bank chief economist, said: "Choosing the right general in the war against poverty will not assure victory, but choosing the wrong one surely increases the chances of failure."
Greenpeace, ActionAid, and Oxfam were among other critics.

Bogus News from Bush reminds some of communist propaganda
administration officials say new Pentagon office should not be allowed to tell lies to promote American views overseas; office has come under criticism, the military is thinking of planting propaganda and misleading stories in the international media. A new department has been set up inside the Pentagon with the Orwellian title of the Office of Strategic Influence
propaganda efforts come under increased scrutiny
Media Matters noted a Sebastian Mallaby column in The Washington Post that relied heavily on a deeply flawed study to make the case for "tort reform."

The New York Times joined the fray on January 12, offering an article about efforts at the state level to limit civil litigation. Unfortunately, in reporter James Dao's 1,100-plus word article, only three sentences detailed the reasons to oppose such efforts. That imbalance was unfortunately representative of the whole article. While the article contained quotes from three advocates of lawsuit limits, it contained a quote from only one opponent -- and that was in the last sentence. On several occasions, the article repeated as fact claims from those who support limiting lawsuits -- but failed to provide specifics.

George W. Bush said the U.S. government's practice of sending packaged news stories to local television stations was fine and he had no plans to stop it.
His defense of the packages, which are designed to look like television news segments, came after they were deemed a form of covert propaganda by the Government Accountability Office watchdog agency.

Among the packages the GAO looked at was one produced by the Health and Human Services Department to promote the Medicare prescription drug law. The story included a paid actor who narrated the piece in a similar style to the way a television reporter would.

"The entire story package was developed with appropriated funds but appears to be an independent news story," the agency said.

It added that some stations were airing such pieces without a disclaimer saying they were produced by the government.

Bush said government agencies, such as the Agriculture Department and the Department of Defense, had been producing such videos for a long time and he said it was appropriate so long as they were "based upon a factual report."

He said it was up to the local news stations to disclose that the segments were produced by the government.

It was not the first time the Bush administration has been criticized for blurring the line between media and government. Earlier this year, the Education Department acknowledged that it paid conservative commentator Armstrong Williams $240,000 to promote the No Child Left Behind Act.

CREW has now filed FOIAs with 22 agencies requesting copies of all contracts with public relation firms, including Ketchum and Fleishman-Hillard. Both firms have contracted with the government resulting in similar controversies, and in violation of the Publicity and Propaganda clause. The Williams case is the fourth that has become public. Previously, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) criticized the Department of Health and Human Services for having Ketchum create fake news footage in support of the new Medicare Bill. GAO is also investigating another contract between Ketchum and DOE and a contract between the Office of National Drug Control Policy and Fleischman-Hillard [sic].
"This type of covert propaganda, [sic] has no place in a healthy democracy," Melanie Sloan, executive director of CREW said
"It is particularly outrageous that the government continues to engage in this sort of illegal activity despite the fact that the GAO has said that it is illegal."

SpaceNut · 2005-04-05 12:04:53

Well it appears that ohio reps are issuing the trump card. Calling on Bush to look out for the Nasa jobs in that state.

'Ohio card' played in NASA jobs fight

Ohio Democratic and Republican politicians cranked up the fight for NASA Glenn Research Center Monday, telling 200 business leaders that proposed budget cuts to the federal space lab jeopardize national security and the U.S. airline industry.
As part of their campaign, officials are lobbying President Bush, whose budget would cut $120 million and 700 jobs from Glenn. In pleading the case, they're underscoring Ohio's importance to Bush's re-election.

Let the states fight for Nasa jobs commence.

EuroLauncher · 2006-11-23 00:10:32

2 years left for GW, not much good news for the VSE - and then there's Iran plus DPRK with their eyes on Nukes

Tom Kalbfus · 2006-12-01 12:44:31

Bogus News from Bush reminds some of communist propaganda
administration officials say new Pentagon office should not be allowed to tell lies to promote American views overseas; office has come under criticism, the military is thinking of planting propaganda and misleading stories in the international media. A new department has been set up inside the Pentagon with the Orwellian title of the Office of Strategic Influence
propaganda efforts come under increased scrutiny

The US has a Propaganda War being waged against them, I think it only fair that the US be allowed to fight back on this front, but when was the last time the liberals were fair? Fairness is out of their doctrine, winning and losing is all that matters now. I've seen how foreign and liberal propaganda has turned terrorists into heros in some peoples eyes, the very same people who murdered 3000 New Yorkers on September 11th 2001, have now got a whole cadre of New Yorker rooting for the very people who helped murder so many, its disgusting!

If the Pentagon needs a propaganda arm to conduct its war and constantly remind the public of who the bad guys are, then I think it should have one.

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