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#1 2004-05-10 20:23:28
- flashgordon
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
this one says russians are starting to warm up to the idea
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#2 2004-05-10 20:28:39
- flashgordon
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
here's the link!
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#3 2004-05-11 06:38:49
- deagleninja
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
It is a well known fact that Russian made rockets are much cheaper. I believe they can do it, but will they? It's hard to say, they have the support of their space program and the public. Remember that Mars Direct was based on using Titans not Soyuz, so yes it could be done for 5 billion, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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#4 2004-05-11 07:58:52
- Bill White
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id … rt=0]Treat as suspect?
At a press conference in Berlin, Mr. Perminov stated that Russia could become an ESA member. He recalled that French President Jacques Chirac supported this idea.
It is worth noting that the Russian-European space cooperation, including in developing a single space program, is natural and logical. It is natural because Russia occupies most of European territory. And it is logical because today the Russian-European space interaction is already embracing nearly all the areas of modern space science.
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Russian-European partnership has good prospects in interplanetary research, in particular, the organization of the Mars expedition. Russia may use its Clipper spacecraft for the purpose.
What if sufficient Euros were thrown at Russia? Could they do a Mars mission?
Undoubtedly, the Berlin air show will help coordinate efforts to foster Russian-European space cooperation and perhaps will begin the formation of a single scientific-technical space in Europe.
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#5 2004-05-11 09:41:35
- flashgordon
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
nice link Mr White!
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#6 2004-05-11 10:47:04
- deagleninja
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
See? I told you so...
Russia is already co-operating with China and now they are going to 'join' the ESA which has already expressed its desire to work with China.
NASA needs to change its stance pronto if it doesn't want to be the black sheep of the spaceflight community.
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#7 2004-05-11 11:49:43
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
looks like the rest of the world understands the economic value of space . . . oh yes, i remember reading a pretty good article at space.com about how the number of scientific literature from outside the U.S. has exceeded the amount coming from the U.S. . . . thank you america, you served your purpose but are now backwards and antiquated.
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#8 2004-05-12 16:12:16
- Bill White
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
Bigelow Aerospace just purchased 6 Dnepr launches, if this can be http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id … 0]believed.
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#9 2004-05-12 17:39:31
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there's a reason why I come to these messageboards . . . 
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#10 2005-10-01 18:36:53
- Yang Liwei Rocket
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Re: beating a dead horse? - more russian mars stories
info on the New Kliper Spaceship
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/spacetravel-05zzzj.html
Angara 5A ?
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/angara5a.htm
USA and Europe offered Kliper outfitting contracts
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'first steps are not for cheap, think about it...
did China build a great Wall in a day ?' ( Y L R newmars forum member )
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